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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:07 am

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In post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reconsidering some things. I think the scumteam is Gamma/Iconeum/Midwaybear, or something close to that. The way Iconeum has treated both of our slots today feels very agenda driven, and like he's going for the win today
so you think the 'solve' is midway, who wants to vote gamma today
me, who does nothing to step in and save either buddy here
or gamma, a slot that i'm doing what with exactly? fake solving?
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:09 am

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In post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I'm acknowledging that this means I've had bad reads on you, Iconeum, and maybe MWB throughout this game. I think I misunderstood something with the prs that made Iconeum seem more likely town - I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true
you wanna start talking about how scum!me just let a CONFIRMED TOWN live throughout N2, and instead killed Datisi (who was townreading me)?

yeah that's totally my play as scum this game...
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:10 am

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you wanna start talking about how scum!me just happily claimed information about not one, not two, but THREE power roles and put myself in a corner with that? where is my agenda exactly?
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:12 am

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In post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true
this information has been available for most of the game
town!you would have questioned my claim ages ago

coming out with 'oh look now i think ico's claim might actually be scum' is so bad
if this is town!you, you need to come to your senses and work with me
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:15 am

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IV/peta are prob town
gamma is like prob town as well
Dunn/DV/mdw/ is probably the solve, or there is a huge error in my actual townreads
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:41 am

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ico can you please please explain why gamma is town
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:42 am

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In post 2828, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2826, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2824, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2822, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening
gamma if everyone were here right now, and they threw down a vote

who do you think gets a majority of votes?
Me probably
i think so too, and like

simple math says that means ur town because scum are obviously content with how this is progressing so…

that means

mdw/DV/dunn?
simple math? not understanding
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:42 am

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Spoiler: dunn reads
In post 2290, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2288, Dunnstral wrote:My current reads look like this:

[Vp Batlar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager]
[midwaybear, petapan]
[Gamma Emerald, DeasVail]
[ABR]
I am inclined to believe that midwaybear and petapan aren't both scum together

They're neutral to me otherwise, I kind of like midway's posts but I'm not sure if posting like this is in character for him when he's town
In post 2298, Dunnstral wrote:[Vp Baltar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager, midwaybear]
[petapan, Gamma Emerald]
[DeasVail]
[ABR]

Let's say my reads are like this instead
In post 2476, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: DeasVail

lim-1

Theoretically, it's better to try to find a mafia roleblocker, and I'd always want to elim DV next anyway. If DV flips goon it's likely that I'm going to go for ABR again tomorrow.
In post 2477, Dunnstral wrote:Also I don't think it's iconeum
In post 2641, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2637, Iconeum wrote:my eod (preflip) reads were like

gamma/peta
IV
mdw
DV/dunnstrall (noraa slot)
You're making a mistake, it's not me

It's very likely DV, also probably Gamma at this point since there's an extra mafia in the poe now
In post 2717, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reading Ico, IV, peta as town here


dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, into
working together with him on solves outside of (DV)?
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:42 am

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Spoiler: dunn reads
In post 2290, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2288, Dunnstral wrote:My current reads look like this:

[Vp Batlar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager]
[midwaybear, petapan]
[Gamma Emerald, DeasVail]
[ABR]
I am inclined to believe that midwaybear and petapan aren't both scum together

They're neutral to me otherwise, I kind of like midway's posts but I'm not sure if posting like this is in character for him when he's town
In post 2298, Dunnstral wrote:[Vp Baltar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager, midwaybear]
[petapan, Gamma Emerald]
[DeasVail]
[ABR]

Let's say my reads are like this instead
In post 2476, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: DeasVail

lim-1

Theoretically, it's better to try to find a mafia roleblocker, and I'd always want to elim DV next anyway. If DV flips goon it's likely that I'm going to go for ABR again tomorrow.
In post 2477, Dunnstral wrote:Also I don't think it's iconeum
In post 2641, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2637, Iconeum wrote:my eod (preflip) reads were like

gamma/peta
IV
mdw
DV/dunnstrall (noraa slot)
You're making a mistake, it's not me

It's very likely DV, also probably Gamma at this point since there's an extra mafia in the poe now
In post 2717, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reading Ico, IV, peta as town here


dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, into
working together with him on solves outside of (DV)?
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:43 am

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oops
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:43 am

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so you’re saying because gamma gets a majority of votes and scum didn’t do Jackshit, gamma is town?

if that’s it, I’m not sure I buy it, even though I see where it’s coming from
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:44 am

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so tbh, part of the reason I lurked over the weekend on purpose was because I wanted to see who gave a fuck and didn’t give a fuck

It’s clear that scum didn’t do jackshit

one of those players was gamma emerald

I don’t think gamma emerald gives a fuck about this game and has resigned to their elimination

And I don’t think that is a towny mindset
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:45 am

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In post 2855, innocentvillager wrote:ico can you please please explain why gamma is town
i go away for a weekend
literally nothing happens

gamma was prime suspect
-> scum also not doing anything -> scum happy -> gamma town
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:45 am

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so if gamma is a prime suspect as town why didn’t gamma do anything?
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:45 am

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if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down

they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:47 am

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In post 2864, Iconeum wrote:if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down

they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped
And that's where you come in
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:47 am

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In post 2863, innocentvillager wrote:so if gamma is a prime suspect as town why didn’t gamma do anything?
true, and beats me

being apathic towards the game i imagine

--

then I come back from weekend VLA, start pushing DV
dunn and DV get in, start pushing Gamma

While dunn had been hard scumreading DV as seen in my prior post because?????
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:48 am

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In post 2865, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2864, Iconeum wrote:if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down

they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped
And that's where you come in
gamma is at least looking like he's trying to solve stuff
Dunn is now literally working together with his previous scumread without any actual cause for that (that i can see)
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 2861, innocentvillager wrote:so tbh, part of the reason I lurked over the weekend on purpose was because I wanted to see who gave a fuck and didn’t give a fuck

It’s clear that scum didn’t do jackshit

one of those players was gamma emerald

I don’t think gamma emerald gives a fuck about this game and has resigned to their elimination

And I don’t think that is a towny mindset
there *literally* has to be town in the players that aren't giving a fuck, you realize that right?
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:51 am

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I think the act that Dunn and DV are pulling here is a lot more glaring then Gamma's fuck all towards this game
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:55 am

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I get that it looks like some town members might not have been giving a fuck either, but I also feel like if you are the prime suspect in everyone’s solve you don’t just give up and only go into “answering questions” mode

it is also noteworthy that gamma started ellitelling
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 am

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tbh the only reason I townread Dunn is because I totwmread noraa
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 am

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ellitelling?
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 am

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In post 2871, innocentvillager wrote:tbh the only reason I townread Dunn is because I totwmread noraa
read Dunn's iso

look how they went from scum!DV to town!DV

it doesn't make sense
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:57 am

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posting in other games and that’s all I’m allowed to say I believe
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