Mini Normal 2180 | Fake Peoples | Endgame

[innocentvillager]

Ico was your 6 PR thing just outguessing-the-mod?

there were 3 claims out (ABR/IV/SirC)

I'm a 1x nb
i got blocked on N1, or my action didn't go thru at least (Original thought was that datisi was

ascetic

)
i got a message that VP is town on N1

3+3 = 6, but I failed to recognize that the FN was ALSO a roleblocker...

here

[innocentvillager]

nothing IV is doing here tells me they are outside of their scumrange, compared to Trainwreck 2175

later...

Iconeum
Gamma Emerald
petapan
DeasVail
midwaybear
Dunnstral
innocentvillager

its not outside the realm of possibilities
gamma+IV+midway

midway and IV clearing the ABR wagon as to not have the full scumteam on ABR flip?

i don't know how that wagon on DV started, scum apparently had a good option with the ABR flip so would they start a counterwagon?

sorry, i should make it clear that i also disagree there is a PR claim that is lying

specifically, i know im not lying (also, i think a point in favor of me being town is that my role synergizes well with Albert's role which I could not have known basically, and my role as a scum role is just stupid), and ico's role is like, kind of whatever so dont' think it changes the setup that much (remember this is Gypyx normal, he loves these kinds of wild setups)

like i said at the beginning of the day, there's + and - for your role here

it's entirely possible it's true, and it does synergize nicely
but there is also a confirmed scum blocker type role out there, and it's unaccounted for.

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

do you agree that if DV is scum, Dunnstral and I are almost certainly town?

i don't know why i'd agree to that

ico also you know that like, D2 onwards is very much not my scumgame lol, even D1 to a lesser extent

the current iteration of my scumgame is to hide in PT and not actually engage thread as much as possible

i tried expanding my scumrange in 2160 and i hated it so i gave up on that basically

the way i'm trying to approach this game rn is basicly 'who the fuck is my townblock'

every.single.townie has to allign today, or scum has to give us a hand here

me/peta
fair point about your scumrange

and like, i don't see me including DV into a town in 99% of the solves so...

i get that these are two separate points in the game, but this interaction definitely pinged me

so im like, completely within my scumrange from 2175 on D2, suggesting that he's thinking about that game when evaluating me a lot

the next day, he's clearly been thinking about (or at least pretending to think about) my alignment

then when i bring up the self-meta point how this is out of my scumrange, he immediately goes, "oh yeah, fair point, you're liekly to be town"

it pings because the first quote suggests that he is considering 2175 to evaluate me strongly, but somehow in reading me in between those time periods, im still a strong candidate for scum. Then all i have to do is bring the scumrange argument up again, and he flips 180 on me? really? im supposed to believe that he hasn't been thinking about my play in relation to 2175 this whole time, and only now was reminded of it?

it's certainly possible from town!ico, but i have to admit that this pinged me and reads as not a genuine read on me

[innocentvillager]

i'm a 1shot rb

that would be so funny if this was an actual scumslip

[Gamma Emerald]

a really bad solve (me/IV/mwb)

I’ve literally moved past that atp
THIS BITCH AIN’T EVEN READING THE THREAD ANYMORE

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Also to people having trouble seeing this as my town game, look at Mini 2170 where for a good period of time I didn’t want to push anything myself
In addition I only really started to become like I am here in 230 once my team started getting caught, so comparing this game to that one is a false equivalency.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can't really do much rn, my engines are spent and I don't have auxilary power rn

i don't understand why town!Gamma is saying this when he is prime suspect and posting in other games and didn't play a huge part in this game

It’s a metaphor of sorts
Engines are spent = any general drive to play is either allocated elsewhere or straight up gone
Auxiliary power = anything within the game calls to me and makes me want to do things. If someone was being obviously scummy I’d lock it to that and push it but atp no one felt that way. Now, however, we have Dunn who pushed me for a solve Is given up by the time he called it out as bad as well as going alongside his former SR with no questions asked, plus the fact Noraa was just scummy as hell pre-replace out.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dunnstral just figured he had enough support on me he thought he could get away with pushing the same logic he had been without checking thread
That reads as scum who wants to clinch the win

[midwaybear]

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

[petapan]

nothing to say to me gamma?

[innocentvillager]

just to let you all know i am here and confirming that the scumteam is not me/mwb/(not gamma)

[Gamma Emerald]

nothing to say to me gamma?

I’m not sure what you freaking want rn

[petapan]

i mean i'm voting you and unless you think i'm scum i would expect...something? addressing me

[Gamma Emerald]

i skimmed his iso one last time to be sure and didn't see enough to make me doubt myself

VOTE: gamma emerald

This was the post where you voted me
You don’t actually state WHAT you expect, you just claim you haven’t seen it
I’m sure your SO must enjoy you a whole lot assuming you have one, because this is not good communication

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay thinking about it that might have crossed a line

[innocentvillager]

i skimmed his iso one last time to be sure and didn't see enough to make me doubt myself

VOTE: gamma emerald

This was the post where you voted me
You don’t actually state WHAT you expect, you just claim you haven’t seen it
I’m sure your SO must enjoy you a whole lot assuming you have one, because this is not good communication

LMFAO WTF GAMMA

[innocentvillager]

petapan new sig?

[petapan]

what i'm looking for is some semblance of trying to scumhunt? should i be direct quoting from your iso or what because my feeling is you've been coasting and the self-meta doesn't do a whole lot for me

a really bad solve (me/IV/mwb)

I’ve literally moved past that atp
THIS BITCH AIN’T EVEN READING THE THREAD ANYMORE

i feel like you "moved past that" as a response to the thread climate more than anything

[innocentvillager]

petapan sorting gamma doesn't matter anymore

if you and gamma are town it's already gg

[petapan]

well no because in a universe where we're both town he could still ask me to unvote (assuming he's postulating dv or ico are scum) and i would expect that appeal if he actually townreads me, but instead he just kind of bit back at me

[innocentvillager]

sure i mean gamma is just scum at this point, for many reasons

lately it's the fact that the sharp bite in his tone seems to be more personally/communication fueled rather than actual game-content fueled, which is absolutely not a townie-mindset when you're about to be elimmed in lylo

[DeasVail]

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

Guys

[innocentvillager]

i think, the remaining discussion time (whatever's left of it at least) should be focused on who's scum with gamma

i think it's 2 out of 3 of {mwb, ico, dv}

and i think it's most likely mwb/ico at this point, but i haven't ruled out mwb/dv yet

[innocentvillager]

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

Guys

?

[innocentvillager]

DV, from my perspective, I'm potentially kind of feeling you as town from how things have played out, but in a vacuum it's kind of hard to like, confidently townread you here

can you see why i might think that? what do you think makes you town this game

[petapan]

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

Guys

i don't know what you're trying to say there, the fact that he won't vote his supposed scumread says enough to me