Yellowstone

[Nero Cain]

Votecount 1.3

bad bear pun count

: 3

[3]LlamaMama:

Flea the Magician, Horsewoman, Marky Mark

[2]Horsewoman:

Toogeloo, JacksonVirgo

[2]JacksonVirgo:

LlamaMama, Nono

[1]no elim:

Momrangal

[1]Noraa:

DrippingGoofball

[1]no elimination:

no elim

[1]Flea the Magician:

AGamblingPig

[1]Marky Mark:

Noraa

[1] Not Voting:

Guillotina

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

The elimination deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-22 12:35:35).

Bear fact #3

Spoiler:

There are only 8 species of bears in the world today.

[Toogeloo]

You know, page top doesn't really count if you have to spam post to get it.

STFU

[Guillotina]

Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure

New to the forum right?

MINE

Yah, new to the forum.

VOTE: No Elim. But not like the user no elim, like a vote to not elim

VOTE: No elim

Ok. Are you new to the forum or pretending to be new to the forum?

very sad! low energy! lame!

This denotes excitement, wants to get the game going. Horsewoman, it's a 10-day Day phase game.

I did want to drive the game forward but I didn't (and don't) have any reads this early so I hoped someone else would do it for me

You were bored and you are probably used to fast games.

To some extent, sure. It wasn't entirely serious in tone because I rarely am.

Yah, you've been fucking around.

Trying to get the game to progress out of RVS/apathy stage is absolutely a pro-town mindset

Not necessarily

this is an incredibly useless 'deep dive' that goes absolutely nowhere.

Regarding your point about being used to short games - that's true. My previous forum had 72 hour day phases.

Nice try at discrediting my way of game solving.

First, if the deep dive goes absolutely nowhere is because the content of it didn't. Thank you.
Two, my deep dive allowed me deduce that you attempted to noobtell and miserably failed.
Three, makes me wonder why you tried to noobtell? Either alignment do this, but why did you?

[Guillotina]

*finger cracking*

Lets freaking do this.

Spoiler: 2

Get used to these, amma do my thang here.

Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure

Is this an alt?

Btw I am super gutted about the flavour. I thought it was going to be the town as bears with guns and the scum as the park rangers (like Yogie Bear kinda)

Unlucky there booboo! No pinching of the a pic-a-nic baskets for yoou! (☆Θ艸Θ)

MINE

You betrayed poor Nero :c

Therefore you must be scum!

I approve of this logic (•́⌄•́๑)૭✧

Alright, someone do the protown thing and create something dumb and artificial to get us out of RVS

You just did.

Spoiler: 3

I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c

THEN PUT SOME LIFE INTO IT! ARE YOU A MAD DOCTOR OR NOT!?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe you've hit a bearier when you
cannot understand my bearfaced bear puns, what an embearassing revelation for you.

Go eat some Strawbearies and hope to gain some grip on your unbearable reality.

Get in the bin.

I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c

Apologies for needing to sleep Anyways, I thought you'd be appreciating a slower-paced game after the whirlwind that was Bending

Sleep is for scum. VOTE: Markiplier

I did want to drive the game forward but I didn't (and don't) have any reads this early so I hoped someone else would do it for me

Ooof. (ʘᗩʘ')

Trying to get the game to progress out of RVS/apathy stage is absolutely a pro-town mindset

⌈O ▂▂ O⌉

Spoiler: 4

JacksonVirgo, how much do you actually think Horsewoman is scum, and how much is your vote for pressure's sake?

Me answering this question would immediately remove all of the pressure if my vote

is

for pressure and what's even the use of this question?

Agreed.

Fine, I'll go through both possibilities before you answer then. I would have rather had it the other way round so I could have a better understanding of your perspective first, but *shrug*

In 68, Horsewoman says she doesn't have any reads yet. This means she probably won't have much to offer when pressured. So why does JV choose to pressure there right afterwards? It's a lead doomed to dry up, since Horsewoman has already said she's come up short of any reads. A pressure vote there makes little sense as a result, and I'm not sure why JV chose to push there right after seeing evidence that it wouldn't lead to much.

So I thought JV might actually think Horsewoman is scum. But based on what's been posted so far I'm not seeing it. My gut reaction to Horsewoman's posts has been town, and the evidence against her in 71 is fairly baseline - it's a lot about what town SHOULD be doing, but not really evidence that Horsewoman IS SCUM.

So tl;dr I don't think JV's vote makes much sense from any town perspective and is kind of doing the exact thing Horsewoman is being accused of: creating 'content' that won't actually go anywhere.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

This is interesting, as we're now in a loop. For D1 page whatever we're on this sounds far too certain. and more votes that are "doomed to dry up"

I'm going to head off to sleep now but I'm gonna say a few words before I do.

Llama's "read-fishing" strikes me as strange to ask as Town, it's like they're trying to fake content and see if my vote is real or otherwise to see if they can start pushing there as well. Either that or they trying to gauge the collective read on their buddy (and whether or not it's just for pressure) though that one is kinda weird to do objectively and I doubt they'd be that blatant as scumbuddies but it's a weird interaction nonetheless. Horse was blatantly trying to sap the town-cred from their posts by saying it's absolutely pro-town to hide behind the efforts of other players by claiming to have involved themselves with pushing the game out of RVS. Both are individually scummy but I'm trying to get a feel of whether Llama's post lead to them being possibly aligned or otherwise.

@Horse and @Llama

, do you have scum/town games under your belt and if so can you link a few?

Your other posts are ++TR but asking for meta on pg4 strikes me as a bit forced - particularly as this is nothing something I recall you doing in our 2 previous games together where you were town

Meta is trash!

VOTE: Llamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamaamamama

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.

Have you explained why already?

[Flea The Magician]

Nope, and she won't for about 2 or 3 days.

I'm looking forward to this, honestly (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

[Guillotina]

*finger cracking*

Lets freaking do this.

Spoiler: 2

Get used to these, amma do my thang here.

Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure

Is this an alt?

Btw I am super gutted about the flavour. I thought it was going to be the town as bears with guns and the scum as the park rangers (like Yogie Bear kinda)

Unlucky there booboo! No pinching of the a pic-a-nic baskets for yoou! (☆Θ艸Θ)

MINE

You betrayed poor Nero :c

Therefore you must be scum!

I approve of this logic (•́⌄•́๑)૭✧

Alright, someone do the protown thing and create something dumb and artificial to get us out of RVS

You just did.

Spoiler: 3

I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c

THEN PUT SOME LIFE INTO IT! ARE YOU A MAD DOCTOR OR NOT!?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe you've hit a bearier when you
cannot understand my bearfaced bear puns, what an embearassing revelation for you.

Go eat some Strawbearies and hope to gain some grip on your unbearable reality.

Get in the bin.

I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c

Apologies for needing to sleep Anyways, I thought you'd be appreciating a slower-paced game after the whirlwind that was Bending

Sleep is for scum. VOTE: Markiplier

I did want to drive the game forward but I didn't (and don't) have any reads this early so I hoped someone else would do it for me

Ooof. (ʘᗩʘ')

Trying to get the game to progress out of RVS/apathy stage is absolutely a pro-town mindset

⌈O ▂▂ O⌉

Spoiler: 4

JacksonVirgo, how much do you actually think Horsewoman is scum, and how much is your vote for pressure's sake?

Me answering this question would immediately remove all of the pressure if my vote

is

for pressure and what's even the use of this question?

Agreed.

Fine, I'll go through both possibilities before you answer then. I would have rather had it the other way round so I could have a better understanding of your perspective first, but *shrug*

In 68, Horsewoman says she doesn't have any reads yet. This means she probably won't have much to offer when pressured. So why does JV choose to pressure there right afterwards? It's a lead doomed to dry up, since Horsewoman has already said she's come up short of any reads. A pressure vote there makes little sense as a result, and I'm not sure why JV chose to push there right after seeing evidence that it wouldn't lead to much.

So I thought JV might actually think Horsewoman is scum. But based on what's been posted so far I'm not seeing it. My gut reaction to Horsewoman's posts has been town, and the evidence against her in 71 is fairly baseline - it's a lot about what town SHOULD be doing, but not really evidence that Horsewoman IS SCUM.

So tl;dr I don't think JV's vote makes much sense from any town perspective and is kind of doing the exact thing Horsewoman is being accused of: creating 'content' that won't actually go anywhere.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

This is interesting, as we're now in a loop. For D1 page whatever we're on this sounds far too certain. and more votes that are "doomed to dry up"

I'm going to head off to sleep now but I'm gonna say a few words before I do.

Llama's "read-fishing" strikes me as strange to ask as Town, it's like they're trying to fake content and see if my vote is real or otherwise to see if they can start pushing there as well. Either that or they trying to gauge the collective read on their buddy (and whether or not it's just for pressure) though that one is kinda weird to do objectively and I doubt they'd be that blatant as scumbuddies but it's a weird interaction nonetheless. Horse was blatantly trying to sap the town-cred from their posts by saying it's absolutely pro-town to hide behind the efforts of other players by claiming to have involved themselves with pushing the game out of RVS. Both are individually scummy but I'm trying to get a feel of whether Llama's post lead to them being possibly aligned or otherwise.

@Horse and @Llama

, do you have scum/town games under your belt and if so can you link a few?

Your other posts are ++TR but asking for meta on pg4 strikes me as a bit forced - particularly as this is nothing something I recall you doing in our 2 previous games together where you were town

Meta is trash!

VOTE: Llamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamaamamama

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.

Why don't you explain now? And why aren't you voting them if you think they're 99% scum?

I mean ... ok?
What I meant is that im unsure of the conclusion that I came to but llama is basically a null town lean.

Oh so you have no other null-town or higher reads than Llama/Horse and myself? That's awkward wording Noraapoo

+1

How about you JK? Do you have any null-town or high reads?

[Flea The Magician]

You know, page top doesn't really count if you have to spam post to get it.

STFU

Get told! (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

[Guillotina]

Nope, and she won't for about 2 or 3 days.

I'm looking forward to this, honestly (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

Are soul reads equal to deathtunnel here?

[Flea The Magician]

Nah, seems to be some weird thing where people vibe with people they've played a few games and have an immensely strong gut read.

Nora's 2 for 2 on being wrong on me so I can't wait to see this one.

[Momrangal]

Mmmmmm.....

VOTE: mark

[Guillotina]

Nah, seems to be some weird thing where people vibe with people they've played a few games and have an immensely strong gut read.

Nora's 2 for 2 on being wrong on me so I can't wait to see this one.

So she is 99% meta reading you scum?

Meta can be changed and faked. I do it for every game including this one, I will judge based solely on actions in THIS game.

But I will read what Nora has to say.

[Guillotina]

Mmmmmm.....

VOTE: mark

Why?

[Horsewoman]

Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure

New to the forum right?

MINE

Yah, new to the forum.

VOTE: No Elim. But not like the user no elim, like a vote to not elim

VOTE: No elim

Ok. Are you new to the forum or pretending to be new to the forum?

very sad! low energy! lame!

This denotes excitement, wants to get the game going. Horsewoman, it's a 10-day Day phase game.

I did want to drive the game forward but I didn't (and don't) have any reads this early so I hoped someone else would do it for me

You were bored and you are probably used to fast games.

To some extent, sure. It wasn't entirely serious in tone because I rarely am.

Yah, you've been fucking around.

Trying to get the game to progress out of RVS/apathy stage is absolutely a pro-town mindset

Not necessarily

this is an incredibly useless 'deep dive' that goes absolutely nowhere.

Regarding your point about being used to short games - that's true. My previous forum had 72 hour day phases.

Nice try at discrediting my way of game solving.

First, if the deep dive goes absolutely nowhere is because the content of it didn't. Thank you.
Two, my deep dive allowed me deduce that you attempted to noobtell and miserably failed.
Three, makes me wonder why you tried to noobtell? Either alignment do this, but why did you?

It wasnt an attempt to "noobtell" it was just a joke based on that super weird username

[Guillotina]

Curious how you fought the noobtell accusation but not the "attempt at discrediting me" one.

VOTE: Horsewoman

[Noraa]

Nope, and she won't for about 2 or 3 days.

I'm looking forward to this, honestly (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

Accidentally dropped it but in the wrong thread. Anyways the tell is basically that flea is being too fluffy.

Like I understand flea has a cutesy online personality but like when it gets TOO fluffy and the plist isn't like a bunch of their friends, its generally scum indicative to some degree.

I'm still trying to figure out how to read flea honestly but I just always feel like this fluffiness is strange ya'know?

I found the faces/emojis strange in student council but here im kinda just like the overall fluffiness is a bit tooo fluffy.

Yeah ok ignore me until I figure out how to word this better.

[Toogeloo]

Kill it with Fire!!!

Unvote;
Vote: Flea

damnit....

ok, maybe a little less fire.

[Flea The Magician]

Nope, and she won't for about 2 or 3 days.

I'm looking forward to this, honestly (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

Accidentally dropped it but in the wrong thread. Anyways the tell is basically that flea is being too fluffy.

Like I understand flea has a cutesy online personality but like when it gets TOO fluffy and the plist isn't like a bunch of their friends, its generally scum indicative to some degree.

I'm still trying to figure out how to read flea honestly but I just always feel like this fluffiness is strange ya'know?

I found the faces/emojis strange in student council but here im kinda just like the overall fluffiness is a bit tooo fluffy.

Yeah ok ignore me until I figure out how to word this better.

I have friends o.o

《《o(≧◇≦)o》》

Why so keen for tells on me nornor?

[Noraa]

Why so keen for tells on me nornor?

your play style just seems to trigger my scum radar. dunno why :/
im trying to figure out which scum pings are not right and which ones are and why.

[Flea The Magician]

ʕ•ૅૄ•ʔ

Do you need a chaos hug nornor?
╲ʕ·ᴥ·　╲ʔ

[Flea The Magician]

Also I'll have you know I'm just as fluffy in real life. My queer butt just wants to love, be loved and hug friendos!

And also I will protect those I consider within the boundaries of my inner circle with my life. A truly scary sight to witness a fight or flight instinct be controlled and wielded in such a manner with reckless disregard for all but whom I stand to protect.

But thankfully the world isn't that full of meanies so I don't have to do that ʕ灬￫ᴥ￩灬ʔ

[Marky Mark]

Please tell me about how my pg 3 vote is an overreaction as opposed to trying to work with the limited information we have.

Feels like between this and the meta tell on Flea, Noraa has been avoiding answering questions so far. Why the cold shoulder Noraa?

I find it extremely interesting that u've shaded three people already and its like page 6.

I answered.
I believe that what they did was not deserving of that vote but Jacko is special cuz their town meta matches up with votes not always making sense.

You however, don't get the benefit of the doubt cuz I've never played with u before.

I've said multiple times why my meta tell isnt gonna be dropped quite yet. Why push it?

VOTE: Mark

1. I have poked at things that stuck out to me in order to hunt scum. SRing me for shading people is odd IMO - would it not be more suspicious if I wasn't trying to find scum?
2. You answered in the general sense but you did not explain why it was an overeaction as opposed to pulling apart the limited info we had at that point. You are still welcome to make your case
3. I wasn't pushing the meta tell specifically - on its own, that's maybe understandable, but the general point still stand that you had tried to slip away from two direct questions.

[Guillotina]

Also I'll have you know I'm just as fluffy in real life. My queer butt just wants to love, be loved and hug friendos!

And also I will protect those I consider within the boundaries of my inner circle with my life. A truly scary sight to witness a fight or flight instinct be controlled and wielded in such a manner with reckless disregard for all but whom I stand to protect.

But thankfully the world isn't that full of meanies so I don't have to do that ʕ灬￫ᴥ￩灬ʔ

AtE?

Flea, what do you think about Horsewoman so far?

[Marky Mark]

Pig and Nono's 0-context votes seem sus to me, especially when we are getting beyond RVS

I'm still leaning scum (to the extend that one can, at this early stage) on Horsewoman atm, esp off the back of her trying to claim townpoints for her post that got picked apart. I'm gonna VOTE: Llama though because their posts just feel a bit forced, and inconsistent.

Im very concerned as to why you are giving off really heavy newbscum vibes cuz ur join date tells me that shouldn't be the case.

See here's what I see from you:
constant shade on multiple people(you've literally shaded almost everyone in this plist by now)
barely caring about other people's SRs on you(which is a newbscum tell that says they know the people SRing are right so they are avoiding)
jumping on the biggest wagon so far AFTER some other people jump on when you were(if I remember correctly), the first to SR llama

1. I have pointed out things from Pig, Nono, Horse and Llama that I found off. At a stretch, you and JV too, but not to the same extent. So at maximum, I have pointed out behaviours from 6 players.
a.) As previously stated, would it not be more suspect if I wasn't actively trying to hunt scum?
b.) 6/13 players != "almost everyone in this plist". If you're going to shade me at leastbe truthful about it rather than resorting to hyperbole.
2. If people push me for reasons that are clearly flawed (ring any bells?) I will try and respond. I'm always happy to chat things through
3. Yeah that's fair, but there is more than one scum and I found horse scummier initially but as the game has developed, llama has become scummier and horse has dropped some posts that felt a bit more towny. Apologies for updating my reads to reflect the game

[Marky Mark]

you've literally shaded almost everyone in this plist by now

and its literally page 7 :/

This rounds your tirade off with a spicy little combo of naked exaggeration and shading me for actively trying to scumhunt.

By this logic, the towny thing to do (ie the anithisis) would be to try and analyse as few players' posts as possible and not bother scumhunting in earnest until we are several pages deeper?
^ I'm teasing you here and being deliberately facetious, but I hope you can kinda see my POV

Noraa is 99% sure Flea is scum but vote:Mark

Dw, will be worth it for the D1 solve when they drop their super-secret tell later on in the day

[Marky Mark]

Ok, I'll be fair to Noraa here, I was methodically responding to stuff while catching up and have now seen their super-secret tell on flea