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[Hoopla]

Gj hoopla!

Also i will henceforth be ignoring people telling me to listen to vague mechanical reasons for clearing people who i scumread, because i've gotten burned on just this like three times recently

by D4, there was good mechanical reasons to discount most of the players - and we knew that at least one or two of them must have happened (in this case it was a no-kill N1). so, unless you have good reason for being able to rank order the likeliness of these mechanical reasons, it's logical for them to cancel each other out and to default back to scumreads, especially when you have scumreads that the whole town pretty much agrees on (lilith).

also, well done on a solid game, skitter. i was hoping the continual survival of you and menalque would eventually start to turn you both on each other (from a why-are-you-still-alive perspective), but you managed to crossread each other as town strong confidently enough that we had to bite the bullet and NK you.

which night did you use your PGO?

[Infinity 324]

i regret not tunneling hoopla harder

Me too but she's just so charismatic!

This, lol

The way she was thinking and re-evaluating so fluidly on d4 was so towny too

[the worst]

Gj hoopla!

Also i will henceforth be ignoring people telling me to listen to vague mechanical reasons for clearing people who i scumread, because i've gotten burned on just this like three times recently

I for one thing vague mechanical reasoning is worth its weight in gold!

[Menalque]

i was hoping the continual survival of you and menalque would eventually start to turn you both on each other (from a why-are-you-still-alive perspective)

I think this normally only happens if we get to lylo, and even then it's like ~50/50 if it goes anywhere. I think the general pattern with skitter and I (although not always) is early interactions -> mounting suspicion -> some degree of conflict -> subsiding suspicion -> townreading

@duck gib mod and scum pt? pls? pls gib?

[skitter30]

which night did you use your PGO?

N1, but i was having super strong regrets come n3, i was p sure i was going to die

And no, gut/play > vague mechanical clears

[PenguinPower]

goes to show that when I say

lilith

lilith=scum

that should be the sole takeaway here.

[the worst]

pt release will be ~72 hrs from game end

I agree the skitter/menalque thing was glorious to behold. I kept flashing back to all the times I've kept skitter and/or menalque alive and how much of a good time that was.

when I did the rand I had to put my phone down walk away come back and look at it again but I think in a plist this good, ~50% of scumteam rands would have been formidable.

I hope it's not lazy to say that I think SS and Lilith played the early game very strongly, and Hoopla and S&M played the lategame very strongly. The decision to seize the Menalque miselim and set Hoopla up for a double bus (rather than letting SS elim go through maybe, then reassessing from there) was visionary imo.

[Menalque]

pt release will be ~72 hrs from game end

cmoooooooooooon just gimme that sweet sweet read access to the mod one, you can't tease me by saying you talked about my dead PT reads in there and then not let me see what u said!

[Infinity 324]

I’ll be honest, hoopla probably could’ve convinced me to vote anyone on d5.

[Menalque]

"Infinity, I've thought about it and I'm really convinced it must be you. Dave is clear for mechanical reasons, as is N_M, so my only conclusion left is that you're scum. If you could do me a favour and pop down a quick self-vote, that would be lovely."

[Infinity 324]

Lolol

[Hoopla]

pt release will be ~72 hrs from game end

cmoooooooooooon just gimme that sweet sweet read access to the mod one, you can't tease me by saying you talked about my dead PT reads in there and then not let me see what u said!

yeah, just release 'em before the postgame enthusiasm fizzles out

[Hoopla]

and Hoopla and S&M played the lategame very strongly.

oh yeah, i forgot to thank S&M for doing a great job in endgame. it's always a tough gig replacing into a 4K-post game, and they handled being dealt the lilith slot as best as anyone could hope for. it was also fun seeing pooky pull out all the stops to push through the mena elim, instead of accepting the SS bus on D4.

[Menalque]

the fact that happened under the barrel of deadline was heartbreaking because I maintain that the way S&M switched onto me /was/ a scumclaim but I didn't have time to prove it before being dead

[Menalque]

so about that mod pt

[Hoopla]

the fact that happened under the barrel of deadline was heartbreaking because I maintain that the way S&M switched onto me /was/ a scumclaim but I didn't have time to prove it before being dead

in the moment it felt like a scumclaim to me too, but as scum, it's easy to overestimate how bad a certain action looks to townies that have no confirmed info. often times you can get away with more than you think as scum.

[Infinity 324]

Yes but it did look like a scumclaim to me too lol

[Hoopla]

the hot new trick to deal with hyperposters as scum: push through their wagon at deadline, so they can't scream about it for 10 pages

[Menalque]

but as scum, it's easy to overestimate how bad a certain action looks to townies that have no confirmed info. often times you can get away with more than you think as scum

big agree with all this in general terms, I think scum generally lose out from being too passive than from being too bold, and it's interesting that none of the *strong* scumplayers on site are people who would shock from making a big move as scum

also, the killing hyperposters at deadline post made me genuinely laugh out loud, so thanks for that

[the worst]

the hot new trick to deal with hyperposters as scum: push through their wagon at deadline, so they can't scream about it for 10 pages

this is honestly too true

[Menalque]

and I would have made another 250 posts too, if it wasn't for those pesky scumbuddies!

[Nancy Drew 39]

Infinity 324,

Vanilla Townie

, has been endgamed.

Not_Mafia,

Town Neighbouriser

, has been endgamed.

Hoopla,

Mafia Goon

, survives and wins.



Congratulations to the scumteam of Hoopla, Something_Smart & Smoke and Mirrors (rep. lilith2013)!

Oh cool we won. Gj Hoopla!

[Nancy Drew 39]

and Hoopla and S&M played the lategame very strongly.

oh yeah, i forgot to thank S&M for doing a great job in endgame. it's always a tough gig replacing into a 4K-post game, and they handled being dealt the lilith slot as best as anyone could hope for. it was also fun seeing pooky pull out all the stops to push through the mena elim, instead of accepting the SS bus on D4.

<3

You did a fantastic job. We had a great team. you and S_S and I’m really glad I hydra’d with Pooky.

Thanks for modding duckling.

[Nancy Drew 39]

the fact that happened under the barrel of deadline was heartbreaking because I maintain that the way S&M switched onto me /was/ a scumclaim but I didn't have time to prove it before being dead

in the moment it felt like a scumclaim to me too, but as scum, it's easy to overestimate how bad a certain action looks to townies that have no confirmed info. often times you can get away with more than you think as scum.

Had we not been jk we might not have risked it but we thought we would die anyway because of that, so we felt it necessary to do that 11th hour gambit to save S_S.

[Nancy Drew 39]

pt release will be ~72 hrs from game end

I agree the skitter/menalque thing was glorious to behold. I kept flashing back to all the times I've kept skitter and/or menalque alive and how much of a good time that was.

when I did the rand I had to put my phone down walk away come back and look at it again but I think in a plist this good, ~50% of scumteam rands would have been formidable.

I hope it's not lazy to say that I think SS and Lilith played the early game very strongly, and Hoopla and S&M played the lategame very strongly.

The decision to seize the Menalque miselim and set Hoopla up for a double bus (rather than letting SS elim go through maybe, then reassessing from there) was visionary imo.

That was 100% us (well more Pooky than me but hydra approved), Hoopla was as shocked as the rest of you.