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[innocentvillager]

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

Guys

i don't know what you're trying to say there, the fact that he won't vote his supposed scumread says enough to me

are you just saying because mwb isn't current voting gamma, his supposed scumread, mwb is scum?

im not currently voting gamma despite thinking he is scum, but im not scum lol

[petapan]

no but i think the way he reacted isn't how town would react

[innocentvillager]

okay so peta, are you just deciding on gamma/mwb/ico vs gamma/mwb/dv for the solve?

[DeasVail]

DV, from my perspective, I'm potentially kind of feeling you as town from how things have played out, but in a vacuum it's kind of hard to like, confidently townread you here

can you see why i might think that? what do you think makes you town this game

I can definitely see why you might think that and as I’ve implied earlier I’m so used to being a scumread here that it doesn’t really bother me. I will keep posting and keep trying and we will see what happens!

Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs

Guys

i don't know what you're trying to say there, the fact that he won't vote his supposed scumread says enough to me

That is essentially what I’m saying yes. He was ready to vote and now he’s going to “skim through ISOs”. I don’t buy it

[Gamma Emerald]

well no because in a universe where we're both town he could still ask me to unvote (assuming he's postulating dv or ico are scum) and i would expect that appeal if he actually townreads me, but instead he just kind of bit back at me

You didn’t establish any point of interaction but you expect me to interact with you over SOMETHING. That’s why I’m getting snippy here. It took me prompting you to get you to explain what you wanted.
And like, how did the thread climate change to where I would feel like I had to change my read there? Even then, regardless of why I shifted it doesn’t change that Dunnstral missed it in his reasons for voting me, and it looks like he was just trying to shore up his base and finish me off.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also even if you’re town I also think IV is town and he’s well past the point-of-no-return on me it seems

[petapan]

okay so peta, are you just deciding on gamma/mwb/ico vs gamma/mwb/dv for the solve?

that's pretty much where i'm at if i stop tinfoiling but actually trying to settle on a 3rd stresses me too much to think about it and i don't want to just blindly name someone and have that get sheeped

[DeasVail]

woah I thought muffin had somehow replaced in for a moment there

[innocentvillager]

Also even if you’re town I also think IV is town and he’s well past the point-of-no-return on me it seems

yeah sorry at this point i don't think there's any way i don't vote you today gamma

[innocentvillager]

can you give us a little more DV? what are you solves rn and how do you feel about them

[DeasVail]

I'm pretty sure I made a recent post about that

I don't have much more to offer right now. Maybe will post more later today if I have anything to add?

[innocentvillager]

sorry, im just trying to get more color/clarity on your stance

so your current solve is gamma/mwb/iconeum? you feel decent about that? if you're wrong where are you wrong?

[DeasVail]

No worries IV. I realise I may have been a bit obstructive.

You’re right about that being the scumteam I think is most likely. I’m most confident in mwb being scum and probably least confident in gamma right now.

The more I think about it, the more I am coming around to Dunn being town.

I have mild paranoia about peta, but only mild.
I also have mild paranoia about you.

I can’t do a super clear ordering of who I would put as replacement scum out of you/peta/Dunn as it kind of changes in my head. And it would be a particularly harsh blow if Dunn is actually scum and I’ve been convinced out of it. But, I would like to think that my re-evaluation has been for the better rather than for the worse

[Gamma Emerald]

seriously y'all what the point of even trying when I believe one town has all but decided to lose the game today

[Dunnstral]

no but i think the way he reacted isn't how town would react

The fact that he isn't being quick voted here confirms him as scum anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

From my point of view, it confirms you as scum.

[Iconeum]

im not wording this well but what i mean is that, if DV is town, scum's agenda is certainly to set up DV for a miselim, regardless of how they try to do that

one such vector, that I'm positing above, is that they bus Gamma, gamma flips (so gamma is intentionally giving up rn to set up the narrative for Gamma/DV/? team), then we flashwagon DV the next day to stall Ico v MWB, and then scum wins on DV's flip

VOTE: dunn

i'm town

DV and dunn are scum

[Iconeum]

I'm town

Here's the thing...

I don't think midway and peta are scum together

Which means it would be to be one of those two, plus gamma, plus iconeum

And that seems less likely to me than it being you

So yes @iconeum

I'm wondering if we've both been town this whole time

I started reconsidering things here

there is literally

*nothing*

in there that could change your mind so completely around, unless it's faked

a simple 'oh it was *this* post'?

lol

[Dunnstral]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view, the above is a scum claim

[Dunnstral]

Or you're throwing for town, one of the two

If you're mafia you've doomed yourself

[Iconeum]

sorry that was supposed to be spoilered

anyway, the people who have been coasting today are:

innocentvillager (partly on purpose)
Iconeum (not even, just V/LA)
petapan (idk, he's just been paranoia/unsure or is faking it)
Dunnstral (but this is typical NAI Dunnstral)
midwaybear - they're ready to vote/have the solve and haven't been trying to push more discussion
DeasVail - they've been coasting all game, acknowledging that they haven't really done a ton this game, but still continuing to coast
Gamma - has given up

Dunn hasn't really coasted, they have pushed their scumread from DV away into Gamma, now teaming up with their prior top scumread because ??
peta's been ?? for sure, but i just see a lost townie there
mdw is either straight out scum or a newbie town here. I've seen both in players before.
DV has absolutely been coasting all game, and IIRC he isn't even surprised about Dunn's change of heart?
Gamma at least tried to reach out to me and work things through, which is more then I can say about most of these live players

[Dunnstral]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view

Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammer

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view, the above is a scum claim

?????

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view

Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammer

have you

even read the game before this?

[Iconeum]

you know, the one where scum (who were certain of victory) blew their game up by doing that?