PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[pichu]

i wish the treestumps had votes for the extra wifom
alisae driving up wagons in the last one was fun

[pichu]

Oh mastina is here. Sadly bringing nothing that will help town.

is creature just always like this in his games now?
i actually can't tell if the negativity and pessimism is faked or if this is just Creature

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t have access to my biggest strength as scum in this kind of game.

Eh, second biggest strength.

My evaluation of gamestate is my biggest strength, town or scum.

My mouth is my biggest strength as scum, and both a strength and weakness as town.

[Double the Trouble]

i wish the treestumps had votes for the extra wifom
alisae driving up wagons in the last one was fun

they're supposed to.

[mastina]

Also Spiffeh and mastina really looking like scum.

(If you think this is ever a stance a town Creature takes: it's not.)

I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner

I feel like there are claims Bell could make that are more likely to be scum, but I actually don't think that Bell can make a claim that's more likely to be town here than the claim he made. So I don't give towncred to the claim being "too scummy to actually be a scum roleclaim"; I see it as utterly dead null, and given that Bell's play looks like scum...

Why would creature scum ever defend Bell here?

Because,
1: FL doesn't like to bus and would encourage his scumteam to not bus.
2: Creature has nothing to lose by defending Bell and everything to gain. If Bell is eliminated and flips scum, Creature is next on the chopping block even without him defending Bell. Even if he bussed Bell, he'd probably be the D3 elimination. Ergo, Creature has a motive to defend Bell. Defending Bell and failing doesn't change anything because Creature knows he was going down D3 anyway; defending Bell and succeeding does change something, because it saves scum from being eliminated today.
3: I may be mistaken but I seem to recall Creature as scum busses less often anyway and tends to defend scumbuddies.

[Polar Bear Express]

Back from dinner. Ok epic post time. coming in ~5-10 minutes

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

Oh boy. Epic post time.

- Norwee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when you post just to update everyone that another post is coming soon

we are approaching peak noraa

[Polar Bear Express]

STROKE FIRST

STRIKE HARD

NO MERCY

VOTE: Bell

[mastina]

Ok yeah Toogeloo might be scum

Possible, but Bell's still scum regardless. Toogeloo's a good candidate for scum especially if you think Dunn to be town, but I wouldn't say Toogeloo's pop-in here is lock-scum. Possible scum, definitely; surefire scum, nahhhh.

This wagon comp is bad, I don't like it. Unvote.

Toogeloo is literally the first vote on the wagon that could be scum.

It is otherwise a quite stellar wagon that is, very clearly, self-evidently, towndriven.

[Polar Bear Express]

Pooky!!!!!
interview time!!!!

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

I'll UNVOTE:
while the exit interview happens

[Polar Bear Express]

STRIKE FIRST

STRIKE HARD

NO MERCY

VOTE: Bell

Ah shit I messed it up.
Lemme try again.

[Polar Bear Express]

*runs to hectic*
pls protec.
spam thread so gloria doesn't sees.

-scarednornor

[mastina]

[I like Ircher's readslist lots]

As do I!

I feel like {Bell, Creature} as lockscum is a good start, with {DEB} as a highly likely third and then the fourth being within {MURDERCAT, Dunnstral, Toogeloo}. Two from the latter category if you want to sub DEB out. 6 names for 4 scum is a really good POE solve pool.

[Double the Trouble]

Didn’t you townread Dunnstral earlier Mastina? Why the change?

- Norwee

[pichu]

spam spam SPAM

[Bell]

Good morning to you all. I'm not going to overspeculate, but I'm going to at least assume scum didn't go crazy with their role picks. I'm VT which means I'm just along for the ride this game. Flave's got his team he wants, Pooky his team of Masons he wants, other peeps got some juicy powerz probably, and then me... stuck in the middle twiddlin' my thumbs.

if ur town what r u actually doing
because if ur town ur just making it a tiny bit easier to shoot any PRs or masons if Pooky decided he wanted any.

Hi.

[Double the Trouble]

spam spam SPAM

Can u stfu.
I need space to hear exit interview and Mastina’s response.

- Norwee

[mastina]

So the reason I wasn't solving was because solving could get me killed.

I call bullshit on this given this playerlist. Bell, if solving, would never be a nightkill this game for like. At least a minimum of 3 nights.

This game has masons--FL killing Bell is not killing masons.
This game has many powertown players--FL killing Bell is not killing the powertown players.

Given both of that, Bell should've been well aware that he wouldn't be nightkilled, so not solving as an excuse to not be nightkilled is bullshit.

[pichu]

hey Gloria if you see this i think you should go to page 29 and read that in full
there's a crumb there about my role that i spelled out in emojis

[Bell]

So the reason I wasn't solving was because solving could get me killed.

I call bullshit on this given this playerlist. Bell, if solving, would never be a nightkill this game for like. At least a minimum of 3 nights.

This game has masons--FL killing Bell is not killing masons.
This game has many powertown players--FL killing Bell is not killing the powertown players.

Given both of that, Bell should've been well aware that he wouldn't be nightkilled, so not solving as an excuse to not be nightkilled is bullshit.

You uh, you don't know my town game at all do you.

[pichu]

you can't tell me what to do norwee
you're not my norwee

[Bell]

So the reason I wasn't solving was because solving could get me killed.

I call bullshit on this given this playerlist. Bell, if solving, would never be a nightkill this game for like. At least a minimum of 3 nights.

This game has masons--FL killing Bell is not killing masons.
This game has many powertown players--FL killing Bell is not killing the powertown players.

Given both of that, Bell should've been well aware that he wouldn't be nightkilled, so not solving as an excuse to not be nightkilled is bullshit.

So, there's a difference between showing you're solving and solving.

[Dr Easy Bake]

K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job.

Hol up y'all, what is the chance that there are two detectives in this game?
With this many players is that possible?
I don't really deal with too much setup spec and my modded games are nuts so I have no reference for tamer games.

probably not gonna happen
why?

Thaaaaat's what I thought.

@BELL

you got some serious splaining to do.
I'm mad that you are making me sign a death warrant so early in the game, but no you aren't the detective, I am.
I'll give you the benefit for like two seconds if you can explain why you would fake claim detective.
Otherwise, I'm dropping the vote and hopefully the hammer.