PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Bell]

Bell used Borjerfkin.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

I'd rather this than Bell.

[Bell]

hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots

would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.

this is a horrible idea as I think we're all town!

(Dunn less so)

Will try as I don't know what conclusions I'll reach. Or whether I'll get the full story. I'm still processing this. Even 7 days is only enough for elo to be confident in a win I think(may I never, ever lose an elo game after all that work, I imagine that's why other players avoid it enough that they ask to die before they make it, like in illicit)

This is just gunna keep happening this is the kind of interaction we have and why I didn't want to go back and keep having to pick over all the misunderstandings and assumptions and plain blips and misses you do when you case people as leaf persona.

I still think you're town on the off chance you aren't a mason

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I retract it because there's such a thing as bad play and then there's killing a detective while fake acting like a mason

.

Solve is as follows:

Mason: Pichu, if not mason eliminate for the holes in his pushes and his bullshit. He tried to speed eliminate here and it was just bad play all around. This is in part why I also pushed MC for Noraa. I had info it wasn't accessible. I tried to appear lackadaisical didn't work.
Detective was a role that got more powerful as it happened.

DBT pretty much open wolfed scum cased.

Dunstral was odd around Nk15, but I couldn't write about it.

ahem
first post i'm still town if not Mason
second i should be power elimmed if not Mason
need to remember your stances better Bell

*chip* that was a typo that I didn't bother to correct when I noticed it while rereading *chip*

+++

Was reading some. First aid in a few hours so I won't be able to get back to this in earnest until around 8 hours to be genuine.
To give a kind example to Pichu about his flaws and to note the plaster issue. If town this game. I will take time here because this is actually classic. I was so exhausted, I just half blurted what I meant, but I genuinely doubt he even got it and just conf biased himself into his own narrative loop. It wasn't even from first post to second post.

I contradicted myself in the first post alone.

Something was up, in this case exhaustion and you know, not a perfect human being. See colors green and red.
this sort of confirmation bias is a bad sign for accuracy.

[Creature]

Was the Bell v DEB thing resolved?

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 2.10

Polar Bear Express

(1): MURDERCAT

Creature

: (2) Spiffeh, Solstice, Dunnstral, Toogelo

Bell

(7): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake, Double the Trouble

Double the Trouble

(1): Bell

Spiffeh

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(1):
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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[pichu]

oooor Bell you contradicted yourself because you're scum lazily fabricating thought processes rather than them being real ones
you're kind of scumcasing yourself now

[pichu]

(at the very least contradicting yourself like that in the same post is scum-indicative because it's a lot easier to slip up when you're exhausted and the take is fake rather than when you're exhausted and the take is real)

[pichu]

hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots

would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.

upon Bell redflip:
Dunny probably town
spiffeh very possibly scum - good shot
Polar Bear hydra - Gloria's continued absence is still creeping me out
@Gloria: are you not feeling this game in particular, and why?

[pichu]

occam's razor though it's more like Bell is whitenighting over doing some Galaxy brain weird hard buddy on a scum partner - scum usually aren't so bold to do that
i advocate a spiffeh shot for how he's not really taken a stance on Bell other than saying my case is valid
and his main take today has been pushing Creature for lack of content

[pichu]

Bell's not really one I want to consider any further today, I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner

oh this was a stance
very iffy
disregarding all the reasons to think Bell is scum just because of some WIFOM?
very unDonnie-like

[Double the Trouble]

i advocate a spiffeh shot for how he's not really taken a stance on Bell other than saying my case is valid
and his main take today has been pushing Creature for lack of content

I agree with this take, i don't know Spiffeh personally. But Alisae tells me their game is usually pretty good. So if Bell!scum then it could very likely be Spiffeh acknowledging the push on a scum partner and then suggesting we vote Creature. Which would point more to Creature!town.

- Norwee

[pichu]

agreed

[Double the Trouble]

agreed

*Nod nod*
Agreed on your agreement.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

I'm at Pichu/Solstice/Mastina as my strongest townreads so far.
Leantown is Ydrasse/Easy Bake/Murdercat/Ircher/Creature/Toogeloo.
Leanscum: Dunnstral/Polar Bear Express
Scumreads: Bell/Spiffeh

This is assuming Bell!scum. If Bell is town i'd probably put some slots further down. Mastina would be leantown and Easy Bake null for example.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

I'm not too sure about Toogeloo actually, but Alisae said they think they have been town so i'm going with their read on that for now until i get a better feel on them myself.

- Norwee

[Spiffeh]

What is Alisae's read on me right now?

[Spiffeh]

If I am ACTUALLY vigged tonight town deserves to lose lmao

[Spiffeh]

I still think it's unlikely Bell flips scum lol

What does that do to your preflip associatives guys?

[Spiffeh]

Wait

What exactly is Bell claiming and what exactly is DEB claiming?

[Spiffeh]

If Alisae is scum reading me here Double Trouble could be scum after all

If Alisae is advocating a VIG.on me that slot should be flashwagoned immediately upon my flip

Idk if they are because I'm like 30 pages behind but there's no way Alisae sheds eir hard town read on me from Day 1 and advocates a vig on me because of my absence today

[MURDERCAT]

catching up from 137, I have been reading random posts but haven't really understood what is going on

[MURDERCAT]

how are people not gonna be convinced at this point

Does this have any numerical meaning or is it just numbers in a table?

[Spiffeh]

catching up from 137, I have been reading random posts but haven't really understood what is going on

aw twins

[MURDERCAT]

I don't think Toog or Bell should be the elim today.

[Spiffeh]

If Bell is claiming Tracker and DEB is claiming regular old cop then this is PERFECTLY REASONABLE PAIR OF INVESTIGATIVES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SCUM POWER THERE IS

I don't know why the fuck DEB would claim here without a guilty unless he is also a Tracker