PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[pichu]

Would you like to denounce the vig shot on me now?

I think it would go a long way in helping town not throw the game!

i'm not sure
who do you advocate of the other two?
i still believe you're the best shot but will be back later to reconsider stuff

[Toogeloo]

We could also clear up the Detective business all together by simply asking Bell and DEB how their role specifically works, just in case it is different than the wiki.

[Double the Trouble]

I think Spiffeh is an okay shot, but there are probably better shots. Like Toogeloo for instance.

I am not an ok shot please do not lend credence to that terrible idea

This exchange is really funny to me.

- Norwee

[Spiffeh]

I think noraa is ridiculously obviously town so I guess Dunnstral but I am not even scum reading him at this point

I think Creature should absolutely be the vig shot, maybe Toogeloo should be under consideration too?

[Spiffeh]

If Alisae does not actively start denouncing the vig shot on me SOON please strongly consider DT as scum after I flip

[Ircher]

I feel Creature gets limmed eventually anyway. Generally, vigs should shoot within the set of null reads. Toog should definitely be considered for a vig shot. I admit I'm not sure who else really qualifies as a good vig shot rn; DEB is out due to the PR claim.

Also on second thought, Spiffeh is probably better saved as a late game vig shot. There's still a good chance he's town here, and I think Spiffeh's potential (as both alignments) isn't something we should waste too early here.

[Double the Trouble]

If Alisae does not actively start denouncing the vig shot on me SOON please strongly consider DT as scum after I flip

Ew.
This is kinda scummy.
Why would you say Alisae is exactly scum if they don't townread you instead of just waiting for their actual reaction and using it to form an conclusion about their allignment? This sounds more like a threat than actual solving.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

Or to word it alternatively, it sounds more like you're trying to force an potential threat into line instead of actually being genuinely interested in Alisae's allignment.

- Norwee

[MURDERCAT]

MURDERCAT
you believe there's 1 scum in Bell/DEB
it makes much less sense for scum!DEB to CC town!Bell
so what's up with you wanting to keep Bell alive

I agree, but I also think there is other scum to shoot and if we wait the situation will resolve itself.
So you have the burden of convincing me that
1. Noraa is town
and
2. It is important the Bell dies today in particular.

[Spiffeh]

I think there's already some scum avoiding my radar

Alisae was HARD townreading me on Day 1 and I don't buy that it could evaporate to the extent of allowing me to be a vig target based on my play today

If I had seen a progression on my read from em, trying to engage me in my absence, etc. I wouldn't feel as bad about eir silence here

It's not certain, I just REALLY think Alisae should be prioritizing saving me if e is townreading me to the extent e claimed to be yesterday

[MURDERCAT]

I'm caught up and Pooky, how dare u group me in the vig pool >:(
I didnt know what a detective was but I just remembered that I think I saw one in a recent mini normal. Kind forgot I'd seen the role before cuz he died the moment he claimed. Slightly weirded out by where Cop and tracker came from also but Gloria thinks Spiff is town so that's that.

still haven't told Gloria about my vote and she ... hopefully doesn't come check anytime soon O_O
As for her activity, idk. I think you'll have to ask her, hoctac. She's been catching up and thankfully hasn't gotten to the vote part but she's been talking to me so that's good.

-nornor

This is Noraa's catchup from PAGE 115
How are people town reading this

[MURDERCAT]

oh wait, wrong account, my bad. catchup wasn't that long

[MURDERCAT]

I think noraa is ridiculously obviously town

justify it

[Spiffeh]

I have already, ISO me

[MURDERCAT]

"Doesn't look like her scum game in that one game we played" isn't good enough
You know I have played with Noraa town 4 times and have never misread her as scum?

[Spiffeh]

This is a soul read on noraa

She is probably my most confident town read other than MAYBE pichu

[MURDERCAT]

You are wrong.
I'm really quite confident about this.

[Spiffeh]

If it helps I believe that you believe that

[MURDERCAT]

Well I believe that you believe that I believe it.
If it helps.

[Toogeloo]

Noraa and mastina are my two odds on faves for scum.

[Toogeloo]

I mean, I don't even look at the slot as Polar Bear anymore.

[Spiffeh]

Toog can you go into detail about your mastina scum read?

[Spiffeh]

I feel like scum!mastina is more likely to lurk this Day out given her hard push on BM yesterday

And the Bell-DEB fiasco is a get out of jail free card for her

[Toogeloo]

I feel like scum!mastina is more likely to lurk this Day out given her hard push on BM yesterday

And the Bell-DEB fiasco is a get out of jail free card for her

You can't disappear after high activity day 1 leading to a mislynch. She's remained active but allowed her reads to ebb and flow with the current game state. One mislynch on Day 1 that she headlines, and her town reads are becoming scum reads because she can read the room and see what people want.

Look at your comment and look at what she is doing, and it actually matches up. She is actively lurking and letting the Bell/DEB thing happen, just like you think scum!mastina would.

[Spiffeh]

I thought I saw high volume posting from her this Day but maybe not I still have to catch up on the last 20 pages