PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Double the Trouble]

I skimed vaguely while I was waking up but you called for me?

[Double the Trouble]

Wait

What exactly is Bell claiming and what exactly is DEB claiming?

both players are claiming detective.

[Polar Bear Express]

Super out of it. Just died in a game. I'll catch up overnight as in N2 of the game. If my vote needs to be moved for some reason or another, uh hope gloria comes and reads up ig.

-nornor

[Bell]

K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job.

I ISO'd Bell to try to figure out the claim fiasco

I interpreted "who killed no one" as in "wasn't tracked to the kill"

Which was clearly wrong of me

But that's why I thought he was tracker

I detective slipped.

[Bell]

First aid class done was 6 hours long.
I feel refreshed.

[Double the Trouble]

Spiffy, I'll get to the point
why are your reads garbage?

[Spiffeh]

They’re not

What reads do you think are garbage?

[Spiffeh]

I’m also interested in when you decided my reads were garbage because you put a lot of stock in them yesterday

[Double the Trouble]

They’re not

What reads do you think are garbage?

Okay, maybe I skipped to the point a bit too quickly.
Why do you think ur in the vig pool? Try not to give me "I don't know" or "Pooky bad" try to think about it please.

[Double the Trouble]

I'm going to tell you its going to be REALLY hard to have this conversation if you just default on "I don't know" or "Pooky bad"
and tbh I shouldn't even be having this conversation with you.

[Spiffeh]

I don’t know
Pooky bad

Probably some combination of Pooky/masons not viewing me as obvious town, they feel that I’m probably a priority choice for FL as scum, and would be a difficult player to get people to lim in the Day phase

I wouldn’t know unfortunately because the reasons have not been presented

[Double the Trouble]

you may not know, but there are reasons for why things happen
I think if Pooky wanted Creature shot he would have said so.
The fact he didn't means he either thinks Creature is town or he's a mason.

What reads do you have if Creature is town?

[Spiffeh]

And that reasoning is understandable if I’m alive like Day 4/5 and have given no day play reasons to be viewed as town

But going into Night 2 I feel that having me as a vig candidate without even an attempt at an explanation is irresponsible

[Spiffeh]

If Creature's town I will reevaluate

I think Creature has a phenomenal shot at flipping scum

If you disagree than you can explain why, but I'm not going to let go of one of the few scum reads I feel decently about on the off chance that they could be a mason (which I doubt btw)

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 2.11

Polar Bear Express

(1): MURDERCAT

Creature

: (2) Spiffeh, Solstice, Dunnstral, Toogelo

Bell

(7): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake, Double the Trouble

Double the Trouble

(1): Bell

Spiffeh

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(1):
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

MURDERCAT is VLA until 12/17. MURDERCAT did not specify a time, so I'll use noon PST.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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[Double the Trouble]

If Creature's town I will reevaluate

I think Creature has a phenomenal shot at flipping scum

If you disagree than you can explain why, but I'm not going to let go of one of the few scum reads I feel decently about on the off chance that they could be a mason (which I doubt btw)

i think his posting this phase has been significantly better than d1 that's for sure. No one will talk about it or bat an eye towards it, but I think its kinda townie and Pooky not being interested in it does affect my reads.

[Spiffeh]

Alisae town reading me to the point of basing entire reads around what I thought on Day 1 and now completely backtracking without explanation and supporting me as a vig target should be very alarming to everyone itg and blanket town reads on that slot will no longer be tolerated

[Double the Trouble]

oh I townread you because I masonread you LOL

[Spiffeh]

What made you think I was a mason?

[Double the Trouble]

Your response to Pooky's PoE and Pooky's response to you felt like
suuuuuuuuper scripted

[Spiffeh]

Well it wasn't, and I actually struggle to see how you could feel that way about it

I actually debated not posting that because I thought it would make it too obvious that I wasn't a mason lol

[Double the Trouble]

Either way it felt like you created that PoE to sort me

but this kind of response just feels like a scripted response to me

I strongly urge you to consider not limiting our options at this time*

that's good point, we just want discussion focused on this poe-4 rn,

so go real in depth on who you want to kill or save from this list,

we have the option to move people in/out based on what happens later - but for now let's get everyone on the same page discussing the same things - need everyone to work together.

[Double the Trouble]

Can we end this show now.
Bell needs to die. Pooky should stamp with seal of approval and go go go.

- Norwee

[Dunnstral]

I'm pretty sure Pichu has been angling to call me scum if Bell flips town

[Dunnstral]

Do you have a single other scumread than Noraa?
There are like 4 scum.

Noraa
1 of Bell/DEB
mastina??
Toog??
Dunn??

Something like that probably for me right now

ah Murder is scum