revO emaG - TENET

[Deacon Blues]

LLD can appear emotionally town as scum, in fact it's one of her selling points. I'm looking at her fight with superbowl acting as if he's newb scum coached actually playing his first game. I don't believe LLD could actually believe that because a) she doesn't miss details when engaged. Superbowl is obviously not new a1) the setup advertises complex mechanics and b) his join date. LLD is also pushing semantics and threatening a tunnel. LLD is much more emotionally manipulative than that when legitimately pushing. She doesn't go straight from 0-100. She applies the screws gradually and harder until you crack.

Then there's skitter. I have an independent scumread on her. She comes in and says she townreads them both and that they could never be S V S. That seems like such an LLD thing to coach.

this doesn't really match my recent experience playing with town-LLD. She came out of the gate with a scumread on me in the FGO game, pushed it a little, was absent the thread mostly for a few days, came back and pushed me again a couple times, noticed we had almost exactly the same reads (except Our Lord And Savior Assassin), and backed off.

Maybe this is what it feels like when you're scum against LLD? (I wouldn't know...the two times I was scum against her in the before-times, she kinda ignored one hydra and scrutinized the hell out of the other hydra and decided we were town).

But that's NOT how her trajectory on Noraa in Death Curse worked.

Titus was scum in Death Curse, though a replace-in. Anyway, not sure whether to call this intentional mischaracterization or not.

bourbon likes Titus fwiw.

~ street

[Deacon Blues]

If you're town I guess I just want 2386 you to listen to 2376 you

[Deacon Blues]

I knew this was coming

Are you telling me you asked specifically bc u knew I would react really scummily?

Different head asked. Me.

I asked because I wanted to give you the opportunity to show your thought process, since what you described was a trajectory.

I'm a little disappointed in what you gave back, in terms of it helping me read you better if I'm wrong about you.

~ street

[skitter30]

Lol @the other thread

[skitter30]

were you considering turnstiling noraa? i wasn't thinking you were and that's why she's not on that list

No, but the mysterious townread i wouldnt explain was related

[Flavor Leaf]

i'm a little worried about Flavor in that he seems ardently determined to miss the point of my conversation with him earlier; on the other hand 2324 maybe contained a passive final admission that he didn't know what i was trying to get at w/ the imperium talk.

i don't fucking know

-b

Nah, you’re the one that missed it.

[skitter30]

I'm reasonably confident that there's scum in the people scumreading me on the other side

[Firebringer]

I'm reasonably confident that there's scum in the people scumreading me on the other side

doesnt everyone scumread u on the other side tho

[skitter30]

It ticked up at the time when i made it clead i had to get over there

[skitter30]

VOTE: gamma hydra

[petapan]

hmm gamma's prob town which means i'm wrong on someone. probably not gonna think about it tonight

[skitter30]

@SB - Scum skitter is town read by players like you. That's almost a tell I had on Skitter at one point because people who played town "the correct way or how it should be played" town reads ScumSkitter, which is interesting that Unwnd is scum reading them, because you guys have some similarities.

noted.

This doesnt, like, actually look like my classic scumgame

[skitter30]

Then there's skitter. I have an independent scumread on her. She comes in and says she townreads them both and that they could never be S V S. That seems like such an LLD thing to coach.

Oh i missed this. I really dont need lld to coach me lol

[skitter30]

I wonder why scumreads would get stated more on potential people wanting to be sent to this side, this side were evicting scum from.

Hmmmm.

I know, that's my point

[Deacon Blues]

hmm gamma's prob town which means i'm wrong on someone. probably not gonna think about it tonight

Gamma's reaction to coming back to being run up gives me those feels. though I feel like town-him would be a little bit more cautions about Noraa given the zeno game. I told bork he reminds me of the Island of Misfit Toys cameraderie.

bork doesn't have a confident handle on those interactions, though.

Anyway. Alter Ego is feeling a bit puppyish atm.

~ street

[Deacon Blues]

I wonder why scumreads would get stated more on potential people wanting to be sent to this side, this side were evicting scum from.

Hmmmm.

I know, that's my point

Who do you feel is tactically scumreading you?

[skitter30]

Dont know who it is, i can just tell it's happening.
Hp and unwnd stuck out in particular. I'm not saying they're scum for it, but making a note, the progressions dont feel natural and the timing is off but make a lot of sense if they're suddenly aware that i'm gonna be over there at some point most likely

Aside do u 2 still townread annie edison

[Firebringer]

hey skitter u know i know before when i was scum faking scumreads on u u were extremely interested in the reasoning behind the read. Which is a theme i think in ur town games. Yet here u seem more interested in arguing what is/not of ur scum game than of reasoning behind peoples read of u.

Comment?

[Firebringer]

I miss Firebringer.

no i u

[Dandelion Wine]

flavor seems like flavor overall but i didn't like 2215 or 2258. im a few pages behind still though.

i have seen other games where half the town was crying and screaming begging for gamma to stop doing his stupid catchup and he absolutely refused, so im put off by him doing so now and i cant help but wonder if there is something to sb's point about the timing of gamma's return. their claim is uninteresting.

-ceph

[skitter30]

Titus's feels kinda real, i'd guess

[upside down sinkhole]

Ok. I have some things to say.

If Annie is town, they are hands down one of the worst players ever and I, to put it harshly, absolutely DESPISE players like this.
They think they're hot shit when they can't even read a newbie right/figure out how to read me without absolutely breaking them. Im taking out my DAMN noob card for this cuz I'm pissed.
I don't care what world you're from but in what fucking game does it ever seem like a good idea to tunnel a newbie straight off the bat?
Like you should know better than to do that considering every single game where I fucked up bad was SOLELY bc someone tunneled me for no reason.
See Mini whatever the dang number was Stuff I'm Listening to. Shea tunneled me and I died day 2 and never SRed a single scum that game.
See Mini whatever the dang number was Random Facts. BM tunneled me and I shot two town prs at night(I was 3 shot vig)
See Mini whatever the dang number was Haunted Village. Cobra tunneled me and I died day 1 with zero scum in my solve.

SERIOUSLY. WHERE IN THE FUCK and WHY IN THE FUCK would tunneling me straight off the bat EVER seem like a good idea?
This play is UTTER SHIT.
And so despicable.
Your way of reading me is BREAKING ME.

Regardless of your alignment, I seriously have no respect left for your play after this game.

If you are town, I admit I have fault. I got pissed. I got mad. But I am seriously fed up with all these shit ass mislims on me.
Each one with a half scum wagon.
Each one with some dumbasses using my own damn meta to kill town!me.
And each one of those dumbasses ending up being town anyways.

I was really upset with your play in Haunted Village and Xenoblade.

If you are scum this game, ur play has been absolutely FILTHY. Extremely dishonorable and dirty play.
If you are town, I am extremely disappointed and angry.

I am terribly pissed with how this game has treated me giving me not a single opportunity since my entrance and absolutely just breaking me down.
My town play is shit and I know it but rather than giving me time to improve, people have decided that breaking me and calling me obvscum 5 posts into the game is a good idea.

I have been so mad lately cuz of all my mislims and I don't care how much AtE I am throwing at this game in one singular post but I die day 1/2 far too often and yet NO ONE tries to understand my perspective. Instead players like Notsci think they are godly at reading me after catching scum me one time and tunnel me to fucking death.

To tell the truth, NO I never truly SRed Notsci. But I am fed up with how I am treated in games and being nice and mellow has done absolutely NOTHING for me. I just get tunneled over and over and then mislimmed again and again. I'm trying to learn but this type of shit treatment of me is just breaking me and I can't pick myself back up.

Its to a point where I can't find the motivation to stay alive in any game on site and I just wanna self hammer the moment the opportunity comes and immediately scum claim and vote myself regardless of my actual alignment.

Nowadays either my hydra buddy has to slap me every day to keep me focused or someone has gotta WK me hard for me to even have the motivation to stay alive in a stupid ass game.

Notsci, I want to tell you that I am extremely upset with your play and think it has made my time in this game absolutely miserable and regardless of your alignment I hope you think twice before you decide to break someone like this again.

I try so hard to be nice and cutesy and Noraa and what I get is just a shit load of people calling me confscum.

I don't deserve this and I am extremely mad.

This game isn't even that terrible but the build up of my mislims has reached a max and the explosion came to this game.

Im sorry for making this game miserable for everyone and I should go to the dead thread for making this game toxic.

UNVOTE: Noraa

[Deacon Blues]

there's paranoia in there, i'm not gonna lie; i keep getting the engagement of cobra kai but the analysis seems yet a step away. I don't know if that's just cause he's latched so hard onto noraa or something more sinsister

I'm in an extremely unconfident state in general atm where early reads in either direction are starting to require more burden of proof on my own part and just haven't gotten there yet

-b

re: @skitter

[Firebringer]

ceph r u helping me buss skitter yet or no?

[Deacon Blues]

Dont know who it is, i can just tell it's happening.
Hp and unwnd stuck out in particular. I'm not saying they're scum for it, but making a note, the progressions dont feel natural and the timing is off but make a lot of sense if they're suddenly aware that i'm gonna be over there at some point most likely

Aside do u 2 still townread annie edison

extreme flashes of paranoia aside, I do. bork's less paranoid than I am but also less trusting in general.

Like I said, I'm leaning hard on my townreads in the other thread and I'd really like to see them work some shit out.