TENET - Game Over

[Hench Princesses]

Ftr peta might be town but you should vig him anyway so he doesn't drag town town with his demoralizing tone and awful reads

[Hench Princesses]

*down

Although I'm sure he would say he wants to drag town town lol

[Hench Princesses]

skitter is definitely scum btw, town skitter doubles down on her townread of me when I say she's scum for townreading me. The 180 toward scumreading me is a weak attempt at appeasement

[Spiffeh]

Maybe you’re not who I thought you were lol

[Hench Princesses]

Yeah probably not, I'm pretty sure our first game together was... Not similar to this. although my play actually was pretty similar, if significantly less trolly since there wasn't an entire second thread to provoke

[Hench Princesses]

skitter I'm just fucking with you. Why are you even talking with me when you have at least two scum in your own thread to find?

[Hench Princesses]

Sheesh fucking with you isn't the same thing as trying to tick you off, get your tilt under control girl!

[SirCakez]

@sircakezz

if there is a scum strongman in the reverse timeline can they target someone (i.e. Imperium) in the forward timeline?

Operatives can only target others in the same timestream as them.

[zMuffinMan]

hey noddy, what do you think of spiffeh?

i dont actually care much about the answer, i just wanted spiffeh to feel talked about

[zMuffinMan]

because im a nice guy and that means im town

[Hench Princesses]

I think Firebringer saying he's a spiffeh fan confirms spiffeh for town

@firebringer what do you think of muffin man? I want to make sure he feels talked about because I'm town

[Hench Princesses]

Fire saying Spiffeh has to be scum I think confirms Muffin for town too

solid townblock re-assertion

[Hench Princesses]

*Muffin

[Hench Princesses]

But every time I see "spiffeh" in muffin's signature I'm reminded of spiffeh and how townie he is. That makes me feel like Muffin is pretty townie too. Are people not town when they have a signature that is composed of the name of another town player? This is infallible logic that I think cannot be refuted.

[Hench Princesses]

No fire, you should bus skitter by saying the *nicest* possible things you can about her! Have a wholesome bussing experience!

"Omg skitter, this scumteam has to be so good. The only way this scum team could be this good is if you're scum, because scum skitter is the strongest scum player of all time. I love you forever skitter and thank you for being scum with me this game" -- you know, go like that, really make it positive vibes man

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

skitter is a ray of light upon the blight that is this website

[Annie Edison]

Noraa, this is the last time I will reply to you for a while, until you’re out of your tunnel. I want you to read this spoiler and genuinely try to understand what I’m saying, because I haven’t done one of these since pre hiatus and I don’t intend to do one again.

Spoiler: Noraa

I have been playing this game for about four or five years of actual time with a hiatus in there. Nacho was in my second game and when my slot was destined to die, it was thanks to him seeing I was town. He has a proven track record of reading me and as I’ve already said- early notsci looked up to him as a player. He had a consistent track record of trying to read me and didn’t get (too) mad whenever we’d draft scum together and I’d fade into lurking. He used to classify my strengths as transparency and finding who to follow. It’s probably part of why I lean kinda hard into the obvtown thing.

He’s told me you were town, and I brushed past him like you are doing right now because I thought I had to be right, my view of the game state is the only view of the gamestate. He then went out of his way to explain, in detail, why I was incorrect. And then you posted that wall where you tore into me.

I’ve seen that wall before. That Sakura tell we’ve been talking about? She was a player who would get incredibly volatile as town but much less so as scum. She was one of my favorite people to play with, regardless. She used to have meta of self voting as town incessantly (and it’s not a good thing for this to become meta, btw). So, I know how to read that big wall. It’s why I’ve stopped in conjunction with my immense respect for Nacho (and Tammy too I am a huge fan of you both but have more experience with nacho). I also, just like Cabd, see a lot of my old self in you. I’d (inadvertently) throw the game into a toxic nightmare.

I’m thinking of my respect for nacho, how I used to have to read Sakura, and how I used to behave in games myself to come to this read. Now, I understand you’re about to write this off as just me being scum. I understand you think your view of the gamestate is the only one, but you need to understand there are several people with better views of the gamestate by virtue of hours and hours of gameplay with me.

Other players have similar track records with me, though not to the degree nacho does. You’ve seen me communicate with Cabd and ffery purely based off meta references- this is due to our extreme familiarity with each other. Brian and I have three hydras together (because we forgot the original password). Unwnd, who you’ve said has fantastic reads most of the time has a solid townread on me. Spiffeh, who is a phenomenal player is townreading me. Flavor is townreading me (but he’s got the gift of gab so he could just be white knighting)

You don’t have to like me or work with me. It’s fine. But I’ve dropped the campaign against you and am actively encouraging others to do the same. If I can trust others views of the gamestate, so can you.

Any further instances of you calling me scum will be met with the nacho quote of calling me obviously town in the same vein you are. But I don’t want to do that anymore, I want to make this game fun again for everyone. Trust the people with immense background reading me. Please.

[Hench Princesses]

Annie do you think it's in your scumrange to overcompensate for not perspective slipping as scum by arguing a baseline point about the setup (that scum don't get to choose which timestream their individual players go into) incorrectly?

Spoiler:

I typo'd "ass scum" in the first draft of this post and was really tempted to leave it in for lulz. Instead I moved it here because it still makes me giggle

[Annie Edison]

Where’s the fun in winning as scum off of something like that?

[Hench Princesses]

Fair but I don't think you'd do that to attempt to townspew, again my thought was more it would require you to be forcibly avoiding perspective slipping and overcompensating. I still am inclined to think you're town for it but my thought is it probably isn't a very strong argument since scum would be consciously trying to forget what they know about the setup

[Hench Princesses]

Noraa are you like really sure you want to prioritize shading one of the only people who has never made it a point to call you scum?

[Annie Edison]

If you aren’t confident reading me off my play besides that ask one of the people who are.

[Hench Princesses]

That's not as useful since you actively know how to manipulate their understanding of your meta. But more importantly that helps me think about your play in the constellation of dumbtells we've seen throughout this thread which helps me think about them too.

can you expand on your pooky position? Why are you so much more sure on shelly scum than pooky scumy? You said you would yeet pooky, then said you didn't want to yeet pooky, but now are back to being okay with yeeting pooky and it's not super clear why any point in that development was the case.

[Brian Skies]

Get in my pocket Firebringer!

[Annie Edison]

You are comparing their read on someone they’ve known for years to someone they’ve known for months, Noraa. That’s an unfair judgement to make. You need to stop being so defensive about the fact people would scumread your play and focus on trying to work with people. Don’t write off what they say- show them why they’re wrong. You can call me bad town until the cows come home but the most important part of being a townie is working with the rest of the town to achieve a common goal, and calling everyone scum or bad town just ostracizes yourself and removes any likelihood that people will listen to you if your reads ARE right.

@Hench- I trust bell.

I want to send Pooky to the other side because I’ve been thoroughly unimpressed but I don’t have enough to read him on- whenever I was saying yeet that’s what I mean. I also trust my townreads over here.

I haven’t read this side in depth yet as I’ve said, I was going to this morning but I had a backup on chores. I’m trusting my townreads today, and I’ll reanalyze with more data.