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[Firebringer]

skitter not willing to engage with me in name calling each other is a scum tell.

[superbowl9]

I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Correct but what I think SS is saying is that a lot of things that look like appeals to authority really arent

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, again, look at the last time you did this

Exactly, last time I did it, I was on 4 back to back scum fades.

There’s that weak crutch defense again.

That's not, you know, what actually happened

Flavor i am trying very very very hard to not get into a 1v1 with you cuz i did that already and it fucked over the gamestate and i dont want to do it again but you're pushing me kinda close and i'm not very good at holding back once i get started

So unless you want to force it (and you said already you dont want to mislim me today) can we just drop this

I’m playing defense here, I’m just a strong counter striker. I’m likely to move away from you, but you keep coming back at me and attacking my town reads.

[Firebringer]

I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Correct but what I think SS is saying is that a lot of things that look like appeals to authority really arent

r u appealing to the authority of knowing what SS meant here

[superbowl9]

I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

He was willing to die himself last game first so people would policy someone. Had they listened, they would have hit scum.

Nope I was just throwing a tantrum and not scumhunting

[Something_Smart]

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Well, the fallacy is to say that the authority is always right. It's not a fallacy to say that an authority on a topic is more likely to be right about that topic than a non-authority.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Spiffeh - then why you OMGUS’ing me after I put you as a 6th scum in a way too early solve? I feel that’s entirely an acceptable spot for me to put you.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

He was willing to die himself last game first so people would policy someone. Had they listened, they would have hit scum.

Nope I was just throwing a tantrum and not scumhunting

Hey, you got a Flavor Defense on you, I’d say take it.

[superbowl9]

I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Correct but what I think SS is saying is that a lot of things that look like appeals to authority really arent

r u appealing to the authority of knowing what SS meant here

i AM the authority

[superbowl9]

^and yes that's a cop crumb

[skitter30]

I. Said. I. Didnt. Even. Know. Who. You. Were. Townreading.
You're drawing some imaginary relationship where i'm going out of my way fo scumread the people you're townreading when i, oddly enough, am not basing my reads around what yours are, i dont even know what most of yours are

[superbowl9]

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Well, the fallacy is to say that the authority is always right. It's not a fallacy to say that an authority on a topic is more likely to be right about that topic than a non-authority.

Yes, but then it wouldn't be an appeal to authority

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m going to try to write a sonnet for Titus later so she knows I’m not trying to pocket her again.

[Flavor Leaf]

I. Said. I. Didnt. Even. Know. Who. You. Were. Townreading.
You're drawing some imaginary relationship where i'm going out of my way fo scumread the people you're townreading when i, oddly enough, am not basing my reads around what yours are, i dont even know what most of yours are

You commented directly to my read list.

I’m pretty sure you were the first one in this thread.

[skitter30]

Or like my spiffeh townread was political when it predated the current gamestate by like 100 pages

Pedit ok i'm stopping now

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, you weren’t first

[skitter30]

I mean i was going to say that (i dont even remember commenting on it at all, i remember glancing over it and dont rmemeber what the content was ...)

When you say things that are factually incorrect it makes me want to correct you and that's what's spurring this. I realy dont want to do this

[Flavor Leaf]

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Firebringer

- feels same as Xenoblade, and I like a lot of their takes. They might be wrong, but I think they're genuine here. I think my conversations with them have been good, and I don't think they'd attempt to pocket me here. Last time I thought they might, I was wrong, so I'm going to trust that read here.

Lady Lambdadelta

- I really liked when Firebring-LLD-FL triangle was going, I felt like we were on the same page. I didn't think anything was malicious, and I was happy to call this a town block. LLD acted exactly how I expected townLLD to act, a decent amount of aggro, one or two different reads, but really not pushing anything super hard. Maybe confidence in their read, but I wouldn't say they're trying to power tunnel anywhere. Not to say they wouldnt if given the chance, but yeah.

Superbowl9

- I kind of expect them to scum read me here, especially since I just fooled them as scum, and I understand their read and their hero solve, it's just not correct. I also expect them to have incorrect reads, but I believe they believe they are correct. Lean town.

midwaybear

- I made a possible scum case with Midway a little while ago, but I convinced myself there that them forgetting then changing their read on me once they remembered I'm April makes sense coming from town. Scum didn't have to change that. It's actually the most connected comment I think I've had with Midway.

Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)

- Nothing's stood out negatively for me. I liked what I saw and seemed genuine. Not my most complex read, but it's one I'm happy with. If something pings me, I'll look into it of course, but yeah.

GFITAC (Gamma Emerald/Dr Easy Bake)

- I pushed a town read, then a scum read, then a town read. I think my initial defense on them made me lean scum on them, but I am back to town reading them because I liked their pop ins. I also think they were extremely close to being faded, and I think that's town indicative based on how it all happened.

Something_Smart

- True Newch. Some people think they're scummy, I havent seen enough of them to know one way or another.

Petapan

- There's been some stuff that pings me, I voted them earlier. I don't know them, though, so I'm still figuring out if they could do this as scum. I understand their posts, though, even though I have a good amount of disconnect with them. Slightly scummy, but neutral really.

Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)

- Bork was scummy during the Imperium talk. they wanted 5 cookies, I only had 2, then they stuck on it. I also have multiple reads that are directly contradicting with them, so this is a lean scum.

skitter30

- Can't shake this. Skitter was directly going against me, and her town reading me is the exact defense I'd expect her to use as scum against me pushing her specifically because I pushed her that one time when she was IC, which I knew she was actively lying and hiding something. I believe she had claimed Vanilla there even before, but maybe I'm making that last part up, I don't know. I don't like the discussion I had with her. I can see her as town, but something in my gut is screaming something's going on there.

upside down sinkhole (Noraa/JacksonVirgo)

- Scum entry, I don't believe they believe anything they said, and they're trying to find that spot in the game they fit, and I just think that's incredibly scum indicative for her. I could be wrong this time, whereas last time, I really didn't think I was, so food for thought.

Overall, I believe there is specifically not 4 scum in this game, 2 or 3. I might eventually make one of these for the other game.

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Will Something_Smart continue to not have much of a voice and stay true NEWCH?

Can Noraa convince people to believe that she is not scum here?!?!?

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PART II

Hench Princesses

- I feel like the amount they're town reading me or appearing to town read me doesn't come from scum. This is an insanely weird pocket to make if scum, it's a non zero chance that it's happening, but I feel like that's too risky of a play for them to make because I would catch it? Yeah, I think they're town, they have the same reads as me. If they are scum, they are probably scum with Gamma, but yeah, this is a high town read for me.

Annie Edison

- I was a bit iffy with the switch at first, but I've grown to like it, and I think they're probably town indicative because of it. It's possible I'm being pocketed, but I generally understand what they've been saying, and I felt a mindmeld similar to I did in xenoblade 2 day 2. I easily town read Bulge in Ilicit as well, and became essentially masons with them, so I like this pairing.

unwnd

- Town reading here strongly. I've agreed with some of their takes, and now that I know what their personality is like from Xenoblade, I think this is right in line with town them. I've never seen scum them, though, but I genuinely feel good about this slot. I like that they wanted me to make one of these for this town, meaning they saw some good usage of it, which implies a bit of mind meld.

Almost50

- A50 has an agenda when they are scum. I'm usually pretty good at seeing it too. The fact that Hench had the same read here of thinking A50 is town, but not entirely sure, also makes me more okay with A50. Overtime, this one should be an easy read slot anyways.

Bell

- eh, town. My experience with Bell is he's town, and floats around to the people pushing the game, giving their thoughts, being a reflector, don't see anything different here. I feel I should be able to read them pretty easily if I'm wrong.

Gypyx

- Their small amount of posts I read seemed townie. They seem like a slot that scum is going to try to misfade eventually, and keep there as an eventual misfade, or possible wagon, and it might go through. Probably a misfade this game, which is why I am lean town, if that makes sense. I don't know how else to describe this.

pisskop

- not quite newch, not quite town, but I think the catchup thing is townie ish. scumpisskop can easily get through that, but they said they were excited in the first page, and really, I don't think Pisskop says that if he is actually scum and excited. This is a bad reasoning, and a bad slot, but I like that they're getting thought to switch over, and I might be okay with that. Possibly could be Spiffeh-Pisskop, though.

Imperium

- true newch, even if IC

zmuffinman

- true newch

Shellyc

- true newch

Spiffeh

- This could go either way, but I think I want to lean scum, if only because they fit in a slot where they make sense as like the 6th member, but in a non tiered scum team. They ask a lot of questions, and I think they're kind of fluffy. I don't know them that well, though, so maybe this is town indicative. I don't understand why they are the top ones trying to switch. That's something that's a bit scummy for me.

Brian Skies

- While I don't recognize the play as in meta for scumBrian, we have different reads from when I replaced in, and initially I liked them, but as I got more into the game, it seemed like they were trying to control the game with their posts, at least in a have some type of effect on helping a game go down a specific slide, if that makes sense. It's a lot of their little jab posts that look like an offensive defense for a team.

Titus

- reverse reads, seems to be discrediting me a lot, but I did like the discussion back and forth between us on Superbowl, even though I don't agree that it makes them scum. It feels like Titus is creating reasons that look scummy, and trying to use that to push. Not confident in this because I don't want to be wrong here, but I am scum reading here.

PookyTheMagicalBear

- dude's shadin', and trying to discredit. This can come from scumPooky with scumNoraa, or scumPooky knowing Noraa is town. Either way, Hench pushing there feels good, and I like when we can sync up like that. Good sign.


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Can Pooky avoid the steamroll coming from Hench and company?

Will Imperium and I ever share a common read?!

Is it possible for Bork to let a topic drop?!?

Find out next time...on

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!!

Super Bowl can go up. Dandelion can go slightly down. Annie can go a tier down. Bell can go a tier down like i said before. Titus can go up.

I’m not sure on my full reads over in that thread anymore.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean i was going to say that (i dont even remember commenting on it at all, i remember glancing over it and dont rmemeber what the content was ...)

When you say things that are factually incorrect it makes me want to correct you and that's what's spurring this. I realy dont want to do this

They’re not factually incorrect from my POV.

[Flavor Leaf]

That disconnect is what you are missing, and it looks like discrediting.

[skitter30]

I'm like 98% certain i didnt comment on your readslist

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re also way too defensive for a Day 1 scum read that I have stated has less odds than a coin flip.


You know I’m a giant flip flopped.

That’s also a disconnect.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can't shake this. Skitter was directly going against me, and her town reading me is the exact defense I'd expect her to use as scum against me pushing her specifically because I pushed her that one time when she was IC, which I knew she was actively lying and hiding something. I believe she had claimed Vanilla there even before, but maybe I'm making that last part up, I don't know. I don't like the discussion I had with her. I can see her as town, but something in my gut is screaming something's going on there.

I feel like most of this is inaccurate and/or based on paranoia

Direct quote from my reads list.

[Dandelion Wine]

if both of you could stop f5ing and making 8000 posts that would be great
-ceph

[Flavor Leaf]

I even made a hero way too early solve without you in it, you’re just hard overreacting to a day 1 push.