i'm not gonna say now and discourage them from voting BellIn post 4346, Double the Trouble wrote:who's bussing broIn post 4344, pichu wrote:some kind of strong players are saying it's his scum meta and he's scummyIn post 4338, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PIIIIIICHUUUUUUUUU
like Creature is definitely LHF town-town - literally everybody wants him dead.
there is no universe he flips red.
but i agree that he's LHF nowadays even as town
i'm so focused on Bell i haven't been trying much to find other scum
just trying to rally votes, even if it comes from bussers
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In post 4345, pichu wrote:idk the way he gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and checked with everyone if two detectives was outrageous first seemed towny to me
A) that sounds like scum checking their exit plan to make sure people are open minded when bell flips town detective.
B) crumb timing on D2 after bell takes pressure makes more sense as scum pre-empting a claim by using rolecop info. If he was a real detective he should've crumbed on D1
C) His actual crumb doesn't look like it was written by him - word choice, sentence structure does not match with rest of ISO, strongly suspect Flava Flav wrote that crumb after original crumb was deemed "unsatisfactory".
D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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I’m leaning that way. I initially thought Dunn was scum but I think it’s likely town!Dunn we’re seeing here.In post 4320, mastina wrote:Gutwise?
I'm actually inclined to agree with this take specifically.
I realize it is very easy for Dunnstral to be genuinely scum, taking largely scum-favoring viewpoints.
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Flavor Leaf likes trading 1 scum for 1 town detective for no reason when he has a night kill and the doctor is dead?In post 4351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.
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Pooky wants to vig us? Why though?In post 4321, Spiffeh wrote:Pooky I will vote for Dr Easy Bake if you take myself and noraa hydra out of the vig pool and replace them with Creature and another player of your choosing
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It's called scumhunting; Creature is scum so it's my job to hunt him and pressure him even when voting elsewhere due to hunting elsewhere because there's four scum rather than just one.In post 3885, MURDERCAT wrote:I still don't really get what the fascination with creature is though.
You should try it some time*.
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I'll be holding this to you btw. You posted that on Monday; it's two days later, Wednesday, now.In post 4324, mastina wrote:[quote="In post 3840, Solstice"i see no drawbacks to waiting at least 1-2 days to see if you actually start to deliver on solving. And if Bell is trolling us it'll be evident by how he doesn't solve]
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If Bell hasn't delivered on the solving in that time, then, chances are...he won't. You could maybe be extra-generous and extend it into tomorrow, Thursday, but like...if he doesn't deliver on the solving by then, chances are, he never will.
More or less agreed. Dunn's the only name in the three which I thinkIn post 3845, Spiffeh wrote:
this is a horrible idea as I think we're all town!In post 3780, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots
would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.
(Dunn less so)couldbe scum, but gutwise, I happen to think that he's more likely to be town.[/quote]
Well we 100% shouldn’t be in there but I don’t think either one is scum here. @Pooky, how did you even come up with this vig pool?Purchase a ticket aboard the Polar Bear Express and see millions of different kinds of polar bears. For example the gloria unicorn polar bears and the noraa ultrafloofy polar bears.- pichu
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i see your points and the theory is interestingIn post 4351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 4345, pichu wrote:idk the way he gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and checked with everyone if two detectives was outrageous first seemed towny to me
A) that sounds like scum checking their exit plan to make sure people are open minded when bell flips town detective.
B) crumb timing on D2 after bell takes pressure makes more sense as scum pre-empting a claim by using rolecop info. If he was a real detective he should've crumbed on D1
C) His actual crumb doesn't look like it was written by him - word choice, sentence structure does not match with rest of ISO, strongly suspect Flava Flav wrote that crumb after original crumb was deemed "unsatisfactory".
D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.
my counterargument of course would be that Bell is obvscum and has been scumspewing for a while now and will flip scum
regarding point B though - don't you think he could've just got away with a crumbless claim?
the timing of it and being on d2 right after Bell comes under pressure actually makes it look more sus
like for most people crumbs don't mean a lot anyway so why even bother doing it if it's so late- pichu
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^this is a very good point pookyIn post 4353, Double the Trouble wrote:
Flavor Leaf likes trading 1 scum for 1 town detective for no reason when he has a night kill and the doctor is dead?In post 4351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.
Idunno bro
Bell was under a lot of suspicion even after the detective claim and there were no counterwagons
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Why is everyone gunning for Creature? Someone explain this to me.In post 4329, Spiffeh wrote:But also can we kill CreaturePurchase a ticket aboard the Polar Bear Express and see millions of different kinds of polar bears. For example the gloria unicorn polar bears and the noraa ultrafloofy polar bears.- Double the Trouble
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Because he's obvscum noraaIn post 4359, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Why is everyone gunning for Creature? Someone explain this to me.In post 4329, Spiffeh wrote:But also can we kill Creature
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Are you saying you scumread both of them? What are the odds of having two scumwagons?In post 4333, pichu wrote:
probably Creature tbhIn post 4255, Toogeloo wrote:Pichu, where would your vote be if it weren't on Bell?
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i scumlean Creature and super uber ultra scumread BellIn post 4361, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Are you saying you scumread both of them? What are the odds of having two scumwagons?In post 4333, pichu wrote:
probably Creature tbhIn post 4255, Toogeloo wrote:Pichu, where would your vote be if it weren't on Bell?
him being a counterwagon to scum!Bell is strange though
odds depend on how flavor leaf has wanted to play the day out
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yes he probly could've gotten away with a crumbless claimIn post 4357, pichu wrote:regarding point B though - don't you think he could've just got away with a crumbless claim?
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Yeah, I think so too.In post 4338, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PIIIIIICHUUUUUUUUU
like Creature is definitely LHF town-town - literally everybody wants him dead.
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I feel like this would be a good point for me to give a better readslist since I realize the last one I gave was a tentative one.
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To explain, this is locktown, locktown-but-largely-trusting-in-others, townread, in-poe-but-lean-town, in-poe-but-not-townreading, in-poe-and-scumreading, de facto scum, scumread, strong scumread.
I wasn't sure whether Ircher belonged in locktown or not but I'm trusting my initial gut instinct to put him up there.
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yea that's the wifom trap for after Bell flips town detective.In post 4358, pichu wrote:^this is a very good point pooky
Bell was under a lot of suspicion even after the detective claim and there were no counterwagons
scum!DEB does not need to CC when Bell's death was marked anyway and risk town doing a trade
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Well, I’ve played with scum!Deb a few times and he spammed the thread with absolute nonsense. I think him not doing that here could possibly be town!indicative. I think his slot is resolvable.In post 4339, pichu wrote:i had not
it makes very sad
i really do not think it's worth killing a very likely town detective just so the vig can shoot scum!Bell
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if DEB flips green the vig can take care of bell right? :3In post 4368, pichu wrote:can we haggle about this pooky
what will it take
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It’s possible he could be scum here but I agree with Pooky. You guys recall what I said about NK15? Well the same thing applies to Creature. I haven’t even heard a Creature scum case yet.In post 4344, pichu wrote:
some kind of strong players are saying it's his scum meta and he's scummyIn post 4338, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PIIIIIICHUUUUUUUUU
like Creature is definitely LHF town-town - literally everybody wants him dead.
there is no universe he flips red.
but i agree that he's LHF nowadays even as town
i'm so focused on Bell i haven't been trying much to find other scum
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Okay I guess I stand at least partially corrected in regards to my burn on MURDERCAT.In post 3905, MURDERCAT wrote:Noraa
1 of Bell/DEB
mastina??
Toog??
Dunn??
Something like that probably for me right now
These reads are somewhat dubious, and he doesn't provide reasons for them, but I suppose it's more than one read.
Also Creature is, explicitly, avoiding taking a stance on Bell/DEB.In post 3915, Spiffeh wrote:I find it funny that I'm the one getting shit for avoiding acknowledging Bell (which is patently untrue I might add!)
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+1In post 4345, pichu wrote:
idk the way he gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and checked with everyone if two detectives was outrageous first seemed towny to meIn post 4342, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 4339, pichu wrote:i had not
it makes very sad
i really do not think it's worth killing a very likely town detective just so the vig can shoot scum!Bell
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I’m still waiting for Death Curse Bell and I don’t think I’ve seen it yet.In post 4348, Solstice wrote:
[I am pretty sick of thinking about Bell v Dr Easy at this point and will hammer Bell in the near future if he doesn't give me his toilet paper solve]
[but now i gotta think about Pooky's theory and blllaehhehhhhhhh]
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