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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:11 pm

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gamma's flip does make role madness a hard sell. he'd have to be deathVT

hmm what would be the difference between a deathVT and a VT
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:12 pm

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It technically could yeah, but we have at least 2/3 real VT's, so...

Pedit : deathVT? That would be variant
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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:15 pm

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In post 2620, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:Klick! I have a couple of questions for you:

1) How excited are you to be here on a scale of 1 to 10?
2) How upset would you be if we launched you on a scale of 1 to 10?
My post must have been lost in your junk mail, Klick...
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:16 pm

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In post 2641, Klick wrote:
In post 2620, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:Klick! I have a couple of questions for you:

1) How excited are you to be here on a scale of 1 to 10?
2) How upset would you be if we launched you on a scale of 1 to 10?
1) About a... 6! This game looks fun. Dunno if I'll be reading literally everything or just enough to get a good grasp on reads I'm comfy with.
2) 5. I'd get it, but for reals, this slot is town and if you remove yourself and look at the last few pages objectively, you should see that this wagon is misexecute central
Ah, YOUR post got lost in MY junk mail... how embarrassing.

What gave you the impression HBB was approaching your wagon from a town mindset?
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:25 pm

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In post 2501, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:It'd be pretty anticlimactic if that was the solve. Personally, I'm rooting for that not be the case and for at least 1 of the remaining scum to be trying to deepwolf and not just float by.

TGP is dangerous to scumread for his playstyle, because he has a certain
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to be low hanging fruit as town and low effort games, and then eventually get mislaunched in them. Ari however can really obvtown as town, and his low motivation is somewhat scum-indicative.

VOTE: Ari for now
Something about this post looked towny to me a second ago

...aaaand it's gone. Your ISO for today actually looks pretty bad from my perspective :P
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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:45 pm

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Just read HBB's claim early today. Completely buy it, I'm fine working on the assumption that that's just true. Enough of Shoshin's behaviour suggests that it's true that I'm satisfied.
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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:59 pm

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Klick read from here -- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12310643

and given that both GX and Shelly (endless terror at that time) claimed ascetic at first and then changed their claim to commuters, do you believe that one is very likely town, both are very likely town, or neither?
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:02 pm

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I think both Samantha and Ydrasse's roles almost certainly need to be accurate if this setup is gonna be fair to scum. On top of that, Ydrasse's role feels really icky as a scum role so I kinda wanna town-bin her as well

PEdit: will do. Might have to get around to finishing it in the next few hours, the little one will demand a walk soon.
Just based on that description I'd say there's definitely something fishy going on with the Gypyx/shelly situation and I'm surprised that isn't talked about much today.
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:02 pm

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It's very likely that at least one of them is town though, seems odd for both scum to claim commuter that way
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:05 pm

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Tsunami Slayer's fake townslip is hilarious, love that. ET calling it out says pretty good things about shellyc
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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 2657, Klick wrote:I think both Samantha and Ydrasse's roles almost certainly need to be accurate if this setup is gonna be fair to scum. On top of that, Ydrasse's role feels really icky as a scum role so I kinda wanna town-bin her as well

PEdit: will do. Might have to get around to finishing it in the next few hours, the little one will demand a walk soon.
Just based on that description I'd say there's definitely something fishy going on with the Gypyx/shelly situation and I'm surprised that isn't talked about much today.
I get it for Ydrasse but why samantha?
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Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:59 pm

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I dunno what their logic is, but I softclaimed in my first post in the thread when everyone else was claiming, for the record
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Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:05 am

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In post 32, samantha97 wrote:it fits with the theme
this was a soft?
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Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:06 am

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I actually don't know for sure what soft means but I assume I used it right, yeah

commuting = universes
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Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:10 am

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In post 416, Endless Terror wrote:
In post 415, Ydrasse wrote:i'm gonna be real that experience did not do much to attach itself to my brain let alone towntells
Here's a lesson: Be aware of your surroundings even as scum.

One 72 towntell is that he often does the +townpoints, +scumpoints thing where he assigns these points to people. He also likes jumping in and pressuring, something which hasn't happened.
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Klick does this post impact your read of shelly at all?
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Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:13 am

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In post 1601, Aristophanes wrote:Iunno, it's just...there's posts that are making be really think a Bell/ShellET/Tsunami Vaxxer scumteam is possible.
I guess I know where Imma be looking next!
damn this post from Ari is either TMI or pretty solid in retrospect
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Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:14 am

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In post 1601, Aristophanes wrote:Reads as I read through but with no reasoning attached:
Gamma
- Town
HBB - Nullscum?
HUB
- Nulltown?
Shelly/EndlessTerror - Scummy
Sam - Towny
Ydrasse - Towny
Bell
- Scummy
BEF
- Towny
look at that f'n readslist lmao
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Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:17 am

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In post 1605, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, so first things of note for Bell

I like their intro to the game. They feel light and their interactions with neither Tsunami nor Terror seem like buddy interactions.

Looking at it in Iso their Tsunami vote actually makes a lot of sense and alleviates a lot of my worries about the slot.

I also really like their pushes on Vax.
And the slot feels n awful lot like they did in Geriatric Trio II which I modded.

I think it's safe to tuck this slot away as town for now.

Inb4 "That was too fast"
Yeah I know, it's based on vote positioning and post composition.
I get a townread.
I'm moving on.
so close yet so far
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Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:18 am

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In post 1617, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:The Bell read doesn't super feel like s/s tbh
lmao it's okay ari I suck too apparently
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Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:29 am

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In post 2660, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2657, Klick wrote:I think both Samantha and Ydrasse's roles almost certainly need to be accurate if this setup is gonna be fair to scum. On top of that, Ydrasse's role feels really icky as a scum role so I kinda wanna town-bin her as well

PEdit: will do. Might have to get around to finishing it in the next few hours, the little one will demand a walk soon.
Just based on that description I'd say there's definitely something fishy going on with the Gypyx/shelly situation and I'm surprised that isn't talked about much today.
I get it for Ydrasse but why samantha?
Whoops, I wrote that for Ydrasse first and then added Samantha in after. I think Samantha's claim is real but not for scum balance reasons like with Ydrasse.
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In post 416, Endless Terror wrote:
In post 415, Ydrasse wrote:i'm gonna be real that experience did not do much to attach itself to my brain let alone towntells
Here's a lesson: Be aware of your surroundings even as scum.

One 72 towntell is that he often does the +townpoints, +scumpoints thing where he assigns these points to people. He also likes jumping in and pressuring, something which hasn't happened.
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Klick does this post impact your read of shelly at all?
Not really, why? Am I missing context that I'll get more when I get there? I've never played with shelly either I don't think if it's something about her meta.
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Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:31 am

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You'd said Shelly catching the fake townspew was townie so I was just looking for a counter-point to help you flesh out your read of her a bit more by finding a point she kinda defended the 72/noraa scumhydra
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Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:34 am

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tbh I'm mostly just trying to remember what even happened in this game now
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Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:41 am

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Is there a reason this can't be 11-3-1?
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Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:46 am

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In post 0, Boonskiies wrote:Third Party? Withholding
And no real evidence of 3p
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Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:53 am

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Ah I saw the two N1 deaths but forgot the 'Hider' bit for a sec, mb

I think something worth looking into is whether there's any evidence of either of the flipped scum having prior knowledge of Gypyx/shelly's real roles before they were claimed in full. If they seem genuinely convinced about the Ascetic claims, then that bodes well for Gypyx/shelly town, but if they're generally disinterested or it's unclear, that could mean they already knew something was up. Something I'll be looking out for as I read
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