In post 423, Marky Mark wrote:Evening all, today has just been very mental with work, so apologies for not being on. This will be a flying catchup post until I get a chance to sit down properly (hopefully tomorrow)
UNVOTE: - I'll give Llama's replacement a chance to catch up and psot their thoughts of the game state. The slot is scummy an I don't want to let it slip off the hook, but my vote there serves no purpose atm.
On a similar note - I can see that Pig's vote is on No Elim, who is also being replaced.
- @Pig: Who would be your next choice to vote aside from no elim's slot?
In post 413, Guillotina wrote: In post 412, Momrangal wrote:You still think it's not crazy to ask to be treated like a noob when you have mafia experience?
This is my first game since 2018 and I played only a handful of games then. The site meta has changed drastically in those two years leaving me very unfamiliar with people, and the prevalent playstyles. Yet, it would be extremely odd if I asked to be taken easy on but if no one knew about that, no one would think twice about it and they would even have the urge (whether they know it or not) to take it easy on the perceived newbie.
There is only one alignment who would really want to be treated in that manner
Mafia
I just don't get this post - like why bother stating the obvious assumption being drawn here when we can all see what Momrangal was trying to convey?
Again, i felt like your intention with your question here was to cast shade on me for stating the obvious. Why can I not? Why does it bother you? You never elaborated on that.
In post 465, Marky Mark wrote:I'm loving guillos reads post with the townie scums and scummy towns. Seems like a great way to fudge your reads to me as if someone flips the opposite way to you read on them you can just say "ah he must've been a townie scum" or vice versa
This felt like condescending. "I'm loving guillo's reads" Why can't you be direct and say, I don't like these posts because this and that?
Condescending, Trivializing, Patronizing
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This involves making light of a player’s contributions or insights, to intimidate them into losing confidence. “LOL, you’re just not very good at this, are you?”. Often this is conveyed as mere banter or joking, but always negative, and usually involving ad hominem attacks on a player, rather than directly on a player’s arguments or insights.
Noraa is guilty of this too, refer to "King Guillo's remarks".
In post 632, Marky Mark wrote: In post 625, Momrangal wrote: In post 62, Marky Mark wrote:You have an uncanny familiarity with mafia jargon for a new user in their first game onsite. Hmmm
You were gonna go down the road I'm on, were you not?
Yes, in addition to my tell, a large amount of her posts is IIOA, and even when I'm a 1v1 with Guillotine the way she moves through it and tries to get out of it is a little weird.
Yes, on page 3 I made that comment, but I also commented on her other behaviors eg her "someone do something" post and her subsequently trying to claim townpoints for it. You trying to say that we are on the same reoad here is just misleading.
What is IIOA sorry? Just not familiar with that one.
In post 634, Marky Mark wrote: In post 509, Guillotina wrote:
In post 465, Marky Mark wrote:I'm loving guillos reads post with the townie scums and scummy towns. Seems like a great way to fudge your reads to me as if someone flips the opposite way to you read on them you can just say "ah he must've been a townie scum" or vice versa
@JacksonVirgo
Mark went from being townread to null read quickly for.
It feels like the kind of wolf that earns towncred early in the game and then turns that towncred on the people that townread them to discredit their reads. In the wolves mind, it would look suspicious if someone who town reads the other suddenly scum read them because town react by impulse, so you'd see no progression between both reads.
What they don't know is that it is ok for us to change our mind in the blink of an eye if something ping us because we are the uninformed majority and it is ok for us to be wrong.
10/10 strawman - if you think that I am scummy then articulate your case but this is all pure conjecture. Surely all scum want to earn towncred?? And yes, flipping reads with no progression is weird, but equally, if someone that you TR starts acting scummy then just call it out and explain why and people willl understand your progression. I'm genuinely starting to feel like your "townie scum" hunch on me was a concoction to allow you to pivot to SRing me - if you had something concrete that I was doing that was scummy then why not just use actual evidence?
In post 637, Marky Mark wrote:@Guillo - what exactly are you SRing me for? Is it just my comment on your "townie scum"/"scummy town" post, or is there more to it?
@Pig - keen to have some reads from you
Nono's last post was like 2 days ago so I'm thinking they are maybe afk. Could definitely see them being lurkerscum here, but I'm not sure a vote would really serve much of a purpose if they aren't going to respond.
I felt that the quality of your contributions declined right after I stated that I town read you. Like as if I town read you I was gonna be forced to ignore those red flags because otherwise I would look like I cannot make my mind up.
Then I remembered your interaction with Noraa where she accused you of shading her and when I pushed her on it, she couldn't provide evidence of shading whatsoever and instead, she just townread you, just because! Which was really weird! Not only that, you didn't push on that either! You didn't bother to go deep into her sudden townread on you, you just accepted it! Like if both of you were wolves, one would be telling the other "hey hey, maybe the push is a little much, stop there because you are gonna get scum read Noraa", then after a while you rolled over for her and white knighted her?
So I figure, what if these two are in it together and all of it was just theater?
So I push on that and the whole convo with relaxed Noraa turned hostile quickly. Her hostility began when I stated that you and Noraa could be w/w.
Noraa then went to past posts and began throwing shade on me for my reads and interactions with Horsewoman, whom I made a truce with (let's work together to get you town read).
It all made me feel like I am onto something because before Mark/Nora w/w theory, the chat felt like no pressure, no resistance, but after that, the chat gained this overall resistance. Specially from Noraa.
I believe that there could be a w/w or at least a v/w between you and Noraa for that.
