Micro 984: my beautiful dark twisted familytree [COMPLETE]

[Errantparabola]

SirCakez was killed Night 2. They were a

Town Family Child

.
Bingle self-eliminates Night 2. They were a

Town Mother

.

[Errantparabola]

Votecount 3.0

Not Voting

(4): Titus, petapan, MathBlade, PookyTheMagicalBear

3 majority. Deadline in

(expired on 2020-12-21 01:06:00)

[petapan]

DV/Math:

DV sits out the math/koba fight early, saying in 471 "I townread Math more than I townread Koba", but as the fight goes on, he starts to move toward scumreading koba when koba clearly won't back down, saying "I’m doubting you too right now" in 614. he expands on his defense of math in 697, saying "Math seemed much more focused on game thoughts and sorting things", calls math a strong townread in 789. i don't know if he'd go for such a full-throated defense of his own partner, i think it's possible mathblade is the mafia child for this reason.

mathblade townreads DV early in 419, explained to koba in 421. it feels very...over-explain-y on townreading DV for a post that was just a joke. says he "needs to see more of" DV in 475 but says he has a "strong town read" from "two good posts" in 479, and asks DV is koba is bad town or scum. interstingly, in 510 math says he backs off cakez because DV thought he may be town. despite the aerly townreading aech other, this interaction strikes me as non-partnery in the sense that i would not expect a teammate to just follow the word of a partner like that, it does feel like math was legitimately trusting DV here. when pushing koba, says if they are town they agree on DV being scum in 631, while asking DV's opinion of koba claiming VT and selfvoting in 637. interesting comment of "scum never bus" in 649. shifts to an attitude of "koba or you" in 651. then switches to voting DV in 673 "For shits and giggles". the interaction in 678 definitely doesn't look like teammates talking to each other, i don't think. read of DV has flipped to a scumread in 816. continued scumreading of DV, says he's the proper elim in 970, and moves back in 1012 after titus subs in, when the day is close to ending. it's a bit WIFOM-y, but mathblade saying scum won't bus in this and then going after DV on day 1 seems a pretty unlikely behavior from scum, especially when koba effectively threw in the towel and math could have easily continued to push there. i'm pretty sure mathblade is town

DV/Titus:

interestingly, in 928, DV says he's "defaulting to just scumreading the people who aren't talking much" but doesn't mention the absent galron. he put no pressure there when he easily could have. when titus shows up and pink votes her, DV asks "why Titus and why now?" in 1044, agrees with koba callign the vote garbage in 1045.

I still have a lot of issues with Titus defending DV on replace in because of a "static wagon" in 1017 and stopping me from hammering him, only to sheep math on the scumread in 1072 at the start of day 2. i don't see it as making much sense and it feels like a go with the flow read flip reversal bus.

DV/Cakez:

DV names cakez as possible scum in 827 but says he doesn't have any reasons. he piggybacks onto cakez calling me "defensive" in 945. that's kind of it as far as their interactions seem to go.

cakez did push DV fairly hard as a scumread, he voted him for dv's approach to sitting on the outside of the koba/math fight and taking potshots in 759, something i noticed as well. he'll probably call this a scummy mindmeld fake but whatever. called out DV for IIOA in 766. calls him out again for being noncommittal in 795. leaving his vote on there all day and never moving off. i don't see cakez as very likely to bus here, so i'm inclined to say he's just town.

DV/pooky:

DV votes pooky with a "where did you go" in 471, says "Pookie something seems off to me about you here" in 741. he names pooky as one of 3 possible scum in his pool in 827, saying he comes across different.

pooky replies to DV in 839 about being heartbroken kanna is not in the game, but otherwise doesn't talk to him. there's nothing here i would say that is really clearing, dv's vote could read as weak distancing, but i'd put pooky as a hair less likely to be a partner to DV than titus based on interactions. i have significant issues with pooky's weirdness around koba, reading back, though.


so in terms of likelihood to be scum i'd go titus>pooky>math>cakez

[petapan]

oh, well then

[petapan]

i think i should just claim that i'm the mafia child now? if the last mafia isn't linked to me, i die if we no elim, if i am still linked, the mafia probably no-kills.

[petapan]

im sad that bingle was not my mom

[Titus]

If I understand the setup correctly, then why not just eliminate you and then the mafia parent dies right?

[Titus]

My apologies for yesterday. I literally forgot about this game after I placed the vote. I intended to unvote and get reactions though.

[Titus]

Nevermind, eliminating Peta only gives a 50/50 shot at winning.

[Titus]

Math and Pooky is a 50/50 for me as well. The only player who statistics say would favor Peta elim is himself and I don't think that's how Peta plays.

[Titus]

i think i should just claim that i'm the mafia child now? if the last mafia isn't linked to me, i die if we no elim, if i am still linked, the mafia probably no-kills.

Do the mafia know who you're linked to?

[Titus]

Mod: Do mafia know whether their child has mother's love or father's love?

If mafia know, we no eliminate. This will mean a Peta kill if the parent doesn't have Peta's love. If scum know they have Peta's love or don't want to risk it, we force them to kill in the 3 remaining. This will give lylo with conftown.

[Titus]

Pretty sure it's Pooky though but we should run through the bases.

[Errantparabola]

should i inform scum who the loved parent is next time?

I'd be interested in seeing what scum knowing which one of them is the loving parent does to the next iteration, btw. It's worth it in my mind to try it at least.

i'll do that + 3 day deadlines

Refer to above conversation about changes made to play to create current iteration.

[Titus]

Thanks. If I can look at VCA tomorrow, that's good to know. Otherwise VCA is Saturday morning.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ive been lurking all game cuz im a town child and i didnt know if i was the one linked to the good guys

peta is the last baddie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i assume peta is not the loved one cuz this would be pointless if he was

so should just elim him and we win

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Peta

if he loves me the game is over either way

if he doesnt love me you guys need to elim him here.

[Titus]

Well, I didn't expect a CC. Math and I are innocent children now.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno what peta is doing with this gambit

its really strange for him to claim child

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mb he thinks im so out of it that i dont remember my own role pm? i think that is his only shot lol

[MathBlade]

Well, I didn't expect a CC. Math and I are innocent children now.

Titus the mafia would have to CC here.

If the mafia didn’t CC then the child becomes inno.

The child kill was kinda silly last night for that reason and I was trying to bait being child with Bingle and failing miserably.

What does your VCA say?

[MathBlade]

Then if Pooky is scum then CCing actually doesn’t make sense because two innos unless he thinks Peta votes him no matter what.

Pooky makes sense based on end of D2 but doesn’t based on play today.
Kinda torn actually.

[Titus]

Well, I didn't expect a CC. Math and I are innocent children now.

Titus the mafia would have to CC here.

If the mafia didn’t CC then the child becomes inno.

The child kill was kinda silly last night for that reason and I was trying to bait being child with Bingle and failing miserably.

What does your VCA say?

If Pooky!mafia doesn't CC here, he has one inno instead of two.

My VCA machine is closed due to reality until at least Friday afternoon.

[Titus]

Then if Pooky is scum then CCing actually doesn’t make sense because two innos unless he thinks Peta votes him no matter what.

Pooky makes sense based on end of D2 but doesn’t based on play today.
Kinda torn actually.

That's where I am at...minus the whole end of D2 thing.