TENET - Game Over

[Almost50]

Bodyguard
Fowards odd-night cop
Fowards Watcher
Inverted *something*
Turnstile giving role or something
Innocent Child
Amnesiac Followeur

I'm not seeing similar roles tbf

OK.. I can't find a Gypyx claim in his ISO. So who claimed what on this list?

[Imperium]

Gypyx hasn't claimed.

The only two people who've claimed in this thread are Shelly and us.

[Annie Edison]

@almosy-
Gamma is a bodyguard over there
Skitter is a watcher over here
Firebringer claimed odd night cop over here
Nachotammy ic
Shelly amnesiac follower

[Brian Skies]

Can you focus on this thread because you are weirding me the fuck out.

I am?

Pooky was still part of this thread, whether you care to admit it or not.

wtf is your problem?

I don't have a problem.

Why do you think I do?

You keep calling Pooky's push slimy. Am I just supposed to sit here and be like 'uh huh, yeah, I can see that' or just not comment on it at all? Is that what you want me to do?

Just sit here and be like 'yeah, I agree with everything NachoTammy says and my reads will reflect that?'

[Bell]

We’re civilized over here.

[Gypyx]

Also just though of something, like, the fact that i'm the only PoE read left in this thread and yet no one has scumcased me kinda shows that something is wrong with the current townreads no?

Even if you were the only POE read, why would this be a problem considering we already shipped out two players and it's possible scum only had 2 or 3 players in this thread to being with?

Well, that still doesn't get out the problem of me not being *actually* scumread, i think most peoples are null with me?

And that's fair, although super unlikely, on another point i personally doubt any scumteam is putting me in a 2 man timeline btw

Should i claim also?

So when mostly everyone else is being super town, and you

aren't

, don't think find that concerning?

Not every scum is going to be super scummy. Some sit in that soft null zone and try to deep wolf it. I feel like you're playing like UTR scum.

Well yeah that's concerning, exactly what i was saying, what's your point exactly?

And explain how i'm playing like UTR scum if peoples mostly aren't TR'ing me?

[Imperium]

Step 1: Gypyx Meta Comparison

Micro 976: - 90 posts in 1 month.
Mini 2175: - 80 posts in 5 days.
The Trials: - 122 posts in 12 days
Pick Your Power - 77 posts in 12 days.

Easily fakeable but from a glance he seems incredibly uncomfortable as scum and much more comfortable posting as town. Tends to peter off after Day 1 regardless of alignment. If he's scum in this game, he's playing his most active scum game so far (which on one hand makes sense because it's the largest volume he played in but on the other hand the larger volume means it's more likely to overwhelm).

[Imperium]

And easily fakeable doesn't mean that I think it's likely that this is something he's faking, but a good scumpartner has at least a cursory knowledge of his scumpartners strengths + weaknesses and so here is riding his ass trying to get him to post as much as humanly possible.

[Brian Skies]

Well yeah that's concerning, exactly what i was saying, what's your point exactly?

And explain how i'm playing like UTR scum if peoples mostly aren't TR'ing me?

Because you're not playing in a way that gives people a strong opinion of you, so you just skate by with 'well no one scumreads me.'

[Brian Skies]

Well yeah that's concerning, exactly what i was saying, what's your point exactly?

Basically it would be possible that you're just the only scum left.

[Imperium]

Pooky's scumread on FL is predicated on:
>If Fl were town, and thought Pisskop were town, he would've yelled at us to not turnstile him.
>Fl instead asked for Pisskop to come over, and may have been preemptively pocketing him, so Pooky thinks he's scum.

I don't hate it.

And Pooky wasn't my pick for a turnstile anyway.

My problem with Pooky is not that he lurked here and went active in thread over there. My problem is that the second he went over to the other thread he had an agenda whereas every time we pressed him for anything at all he had nothing. Contrast this with Titus who hasn't had a TON to say about this thread in particular but still gives thoughts on the other thread.

This read doesn't change regardless of FL's alignment, either - my issue is that Pooky went from 0 to 100 conviction (to the point where he expressed zero doubt post-lynch) - I think he was uncomfortable in this thread because he had a bit of a slow start (likely due to him being busy elsewhere, but that still makes it hard for him as scum) and also a game state that was a little more stable. He goes to the other thread and he gets a bit of a clean slate because all the people who suspected him are gone (and it feels like a replacement) then suddenly is charismatic and ramming through a lynch. Didn't seem like he was reading people. Just seemed like he was pushing people.

[Almost50]

@almosy-
Gamma is a bodyguard over there
Skitter is a watcher over here
Firebringer claimed odd night cop over here
Nachotammy ic
Shelly amnesiac follower

Interesting. Watcher, Follower, Cop, and God-knows-what-else.

[Imperium]

Can you focus on this thread because you are weirding me the fuck out.

I am?

Pooky was still part of this thread, whether you care to admit it or not.

wtf is your problem?

I don't have a problem.

Why do you think I do?

You keep calling Pooky's push slimy. Am I just supposed to sit here and be like 'uh huh, yeah, I can see that' or just not comment on it at all? Is that what you want me to do?

Just sit here and be like 'yeah, I agree with everything NachoTammy says and my reads will reflect that?'

Oh good god. I've also said, if you care to read anything, is that pooky could very well be town and made a correct push, which in that case I will congratulate him. Yes, I think the push was slimy because he accused him of being so scared of pooky that he left the thread to hide, which was slimy as fuck.

I do not know what either of them will flip, which I've said.

I never pretended pooky wasn't here. I didn't want pooky to turnstile. I have no idea why he did. The fact that he did so abruptly when the last thing we wanted was just something from him to see if we should be reassessing the other people who had been giving content and went rabid dog immediately feels off.

But hey guess what I don't know what he'll flip, either of them, and I don't care right now because we have only a few hours to assess the people that are here.

What feels odd from you is that you brought up a scum reads list from 2017 to try to prove that flavor is scum, which I think is super odd coming from you. You should know better than to entertain that one reads list from 3 years ago is not alignment indicative at all especially when you can't be fucked to see if he also does that as town. I did like your "that's deflating" post after my five minute search to see if I could find a town game where he did that too, but it feels off that you'd do that anyway.

It feels like you're trying to pre-assess the alignment of pooky to affect our reads here, and that feels off too. I'm treating both pooky and flavor as preflip associations. I don't know what either will flip and right now I don't care because it doesn't affect my reading of the people here.

I never once have ever said to agree with me. Never even suggested it. And considering that I'm completely up in the air I don't have anything to agree with. I think your weird fixation feels off. It feels weird that you keep randomly popping to drill that he's town into things, especially when he's not here, he's not being discussed and it's not a part of the things being mentioned. I'm good if you want to say you miss him, then I'll agree.

[Imperium]

@almosy-
Gamma is a bodyguard over there
Skitter is a watcher over here
Firebringer claimed odd night cop over here
Nachotammy ic
Shelly amnesiac follower

Interesting. Watcher, Follower, Cop, and God-knows-what-else.

Well... everyone knows what else.

There's also an IC. It's me.

[Brian Skies]

Should i claim also?

I don't get to make that decision.

[Imperium]

Also just had a heart attack because Micro 976 has "day 3" in the title and I thought that I posted an ongoing game.
I did not.

[Annie Edison]

Like I said, gypyx being weird could just be a gypyx thing.

If not him, who do we look at? Muffin, maybe? Spiffeh, maybe? Hench princesses?

[Imperium]

Should i claim also?

I do NOT want you to claim. I don't think there's enough suspicion on you to warrant it.

[Gypyx]

Well yeah that's concerning, exactly what i was saying, what's your point exactly?

Basically it would be possible that you're just the only scum left.

Yeah it would be *possible* but like, is it really what's likely to be going on rn?

[Brian Skies]

I think that Pooky is scum that we sent over. I think that Pooky took advantage of the thread chaos in order to give a voice to people like Superbowl and ram through that mislynch. I hate him going over there and immediately having an agenda in mind when he couldn't cobble anything together in this thread.

Pisskop could still be scum. He could still be town. I am extremely skeptical that we hit all three in kop/Pooky/Shelly and so would love to find a fourth option that I don't feel absolutely garbage about before lynching. At the very least, would love to have some time Saturday to put together a big readslist.

You just quoted yourself here saying you thought Pooky going over was slimy.

And I just commented on it because you brought it back up.

And then you say I have a problem?

[Almost50]

IC & BG aren't Investigative/Informative roles. I meant those in particular

[Bell]

I think I would have gotten annie way earlier but when I asked her about the dumbtell she said it'd be unfun to win that way. That one post I think bothered my feeling of her more than I thought, it felt pretty scummy at that moment. Makes me keep looking for something harder town for her other than peacemaking. The tinfoil could be that but I'm not sure sure, or at least not sure sure sure

Like I said, gypyx being weird could just be a gypyx thing.

If not him, who do we look at? Muffin, maybe? Spiffeh, maybe? Hench princesses?

A50 imo.
But shelly by a mile for me rn. I am very comfortable with her elimination.

[Annie Edison]

Watcher is a protective not an investigative.

I’m waiting for dunn still too.

[Bell]

Why are all these random quotes popping up.
Why.

[Imperium]

I think that Pooky is scum that we sent over. I think that Pooky took advantage of the thread chaos in order to give a voice to people like Superbowl and ram through that mislynch. I hate him going over there and immediately having an agenda in mind when he couldn't cobble anything together in this thread.

Pisskop could still be scum. He could still be town. I am extremely skeptical that we hit all three in kop/Pooky/Shelly and so would love to find a fourth option that I don't feel absolutely garbage about before lynching. At the very least, would love to have some time Saturday to put together a big readslist.

You just quoted yourself here saying you thought Pooky going over was slimy.

And I just commented on it because you brought it back up.

And then you say I have a problem?

I believe Tammy's "problem" comment sparked from your "Pooky is in the other thread,

whether you believe it or not

".

And I think it wasn't that you were talking about Pooky that weirded her out, but the strength of your Pooky read. Which I definitely empathize with because I don't get it either?