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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:13 pm

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1. When was the first time you played mafia and do you remember if you liked it?


It was like, 2011. I played on a roleplaying site and that's where I got hooked
2. Why are you playing this current game of mafia now?


Because mafia is a drug and you always come back for it no matter what

3. What is your favorite mafia-like game now? (including games like Among Us and Secret Hitler)


I.. I got hooked on among us

4. How many people would you say you interact with offline on a typical day?


At least 3, I am a mother of two with a partner and I'm generally talking to my mom. Occasionally I'll add a few more people to the mix but usually 3

5. How many people would you say you interact with online on a typical day?


Crapton of ppl

6. How often do you tell stories?


Almost everyday, my son loves them

7. Do you think that lying is ever OK?


Situational. Santa, for example

8. Do you lie more often online than offline?


Not sure

9. How good are you at lying?


It would depend who I am lying to, I guess. It's hard to withhold information to other adults

10. Would you rather talk to someone in-person or online?


Talking in person is very taxing.


Also, I will add that I'm generally not a fan of RQS but like, you have got me geeked. I played with the MBTI couple years back. We should talk after the game

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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:15 pm

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In post 34, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I hate personality tests

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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:36 pm

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In post 72, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Personality test are always the worst part of a hiring process when you submit an application for work
That’s not an answer. The 10 RQS questions aren’t solely personality questions.
And in the context of a mafia game, reads immediately based on a person’s answers aren’t great, but what does have value is reads that factor in the personality of the player. You got pissy about your style being NAI, but when you share your personality with those tests, you let people now how you work on a basic level so they know what parts of your behavior is NAI playstyle stuff. After doing that, one can read someone factoring that in, toning down scumvibes that come from style but also finding where the person is acting outside of what makes sense based on their personality. I think you’re right about personality is not a reason for a scumread, but you’re using that to blow the whole deal out of proportion and dodge the entire matter, which seems like scum using a strawman logic to break down a valid idea.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:43 pm

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I don't think scum would be that blatant about doing it
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:51 pm

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I think they would. Refuge in audacity/too-scummy-to-be-scum is a very common argument, so it’s likely scum would act assuming that might happen. I think the fact you’re the one trying to push that logic means it holds 0 worth.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:52 pm

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Not all scumhunting is based on logic
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:54 pm

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And I'm not pushing that I'm scummy at all
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:56 pm

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Peronality tests are equative to self metaing which is scummy in itself
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:58 pm

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Knowing someones personality makes reading that slot an easier task to do. It is nothing similar to self-meta because you're allowijg others to see what you are like
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:00 pm

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I disagree
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:05 pm

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I'd rather see what someone is like for myself than be told
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:07 pm

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If someone manipulates it, sure. But I think it would be very challenging to manipulate your personality both as you state it and how you exhibit it. I think a good amount of the time the answers can become very good rubrics for how to handle players.
Self-meta also isn’t as problematic as you suggest, imo. Yeah I could manipulate my own meta with the sample size being monstrous, but I don’t think anyone is going to take that without a grain of salt. And what I personally tend to do self-meta-wise is I tell people I have tells that persist across games that can catch scum!me, but I leave it to others to actually figure them out, for two reasons. First, it provides an open-response way of reading me that while you may or may not hit the true tell, it gives people freedom to read me their way. Second, I actually tend to enjoy when people find those effective tells, so I want to provide them with the first step but let them come across the means on their own, that way the bond formed when they do feels more legitimate. I am probably one of the few people who enjoys being read well.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 85, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'd rather see what someone is like for myself than be told
Would you rather have to be told “oh that’s just my playstyle” after having invested in a push, or would you like to learn that upfront? I know I’d like the latter.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:11 pm

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I don't mind being told in itself it's being expected to take it for granted that I have a problem with also I feel like the time could be better spent in hunting scum
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:13 pm

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So you think having to account for it wastes time? You realize you’d still need to do that once you get told later on, unless you just want to make bad pushes?
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:15 pm

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No you are twisting my words. The questions in general are a waste of time and lazy
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:25 pm

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I don’t know how but you finally managed to say something that works for me.
Why do you think the questions are a waste of time and lazy? I feel like the picture he’s aiming to generate, whilst dubious currently, does have a real focus based on the questions he is asking. Not all questions will be hits but the questions about lying seem like ones that may bear fruit down the line.

Also yeah I was twisting your words, but your statement didn’t seem sensible to me and the best way to call it out was to present an absurd concept.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:26 pm

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Do you have any other comments on events so far?
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:36 pm

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I think it has been a productive start.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:54 pm

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Okay. What reads have you gotten out of it?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:55 pm

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In post 41, bugspray wrote:@amelie are you a novelty account based off of the movie by the same name?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:55 pm

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I'm a bit tired. It's 2 am here. I'll be logging off here.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:31 pm

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Slight town on you and frog null on everybody else
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:31 pm

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NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:33 pm

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This is going to be a long game if we have to do all 19, 035 frames.
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