BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Klick]

i would like to ask for a full readslist from bell. i have confidence in solving that slot soon with my experiences. i think I have a slight scumlean due to pushing that BEF wagon without much explanation/convincing towards rest of plist, indicating that bell does not have a Real Interest in nuking BEF

TGP is scummy. no real presence anyhow. i struggle to remember anything TGP has done.

I would vote in ari/tgp/bell atm?

When I last played the game I had a TR on ydrasse and those are usually... correct. HBB also town with attitude and interactions towards vax + tone. Gypyx is more likely town than not, at least until more of the setup is revealed and I can evaluate if 2 comms are fine for strength.

These feel like real thoughts, I can see them all coming from town really clearly.

I can't really remember why I townleaned Gypyx right this second and his vote on me is really bad and I'm back to thinking a commuter is scum, so I'm wondering if that's just the answer.

[Gypyx]

Ok so... i kinda need to find back my motivation to play this game tbf

I'll try to make a case on klick himself, my read on him is mostly based off ari

[Klick]

I mean, come on. She was the only counterwagon to Vax. You guys really telling me we have SvS counterwagons yesterday, and Vax was super tryharding just to get his buddy launched?

BEF wagon is still good.

I don't really like this logic - the Samantha pressure D1 was insignificant enough that I kinda forgot it happened, and I could easily see scum just accepting that Vax was okay to be bussed D1. I don't have a problem seeing Vax's vote on sam as a bus.

[Klick]

Ok so... i kinda need to find back my motivation to play this game tbf

I'll try to make a case on klick himself, my read on him is mostly based off ari

You say this like you're going to find reasons to scumread me that you don't already have.

I'd rather hear what Ari did that makes you so confident he's scum tbh.

[Klick]

Gypyx did you ever explain why you initially claimed Ascetic in the first place?

[Gypyx]

Gypyx did you ever explain why you initially claimed Ascetic in the first place?

nope but basically, i was pretty sure there was going to be some loyal thingy in the town, so i wanted to avoid getting false guiltied / town wasting actions on me bascially, but i didn't wanna claim commuter in case scum had a strongman / to try to make them waste a bullet on me

[Klick]

Why did you think scum were likely to kill you, a claimed Ascetic?

[Gypyx]

me being claimed ascetic made it ~kinda~ unlikelier but i've thought that if i obvtowned suifficently they would try to kill me anyways

[Klick]

For Sam to be scum, Sam would have to have either:
-bluffed, which would maybe require a motion detector or something for scum, to *know* exactly who pelican targeted
OR
-targeted the scum nk with a commute (which makes no sense so we can dismiss)

Kinda think HUB townslipped here in a way that's believable. HUB isn't considering the possibility of a Strongman in this analysis.

[Klick]

That's three commuters, plus a role that allows for two more town commuters. That's five players that scum can't kill. Five. This doesn't seem plausible.

Hmm

Worst case scenario for scum assuming the claims are all true, Strongman is faded D1 and you have four Town Commuters (and possibly a Town Roleblocker).

Yeah that's incredibly unbalanced/swingy based on one scum role staying alive. Scum definitely have some more counterplay, or more likely one of the commuting roles is scum.

[Klick]

Behavior-wise, Gypyx/Sam are two of the scummiest players in the game. If I had to chart a path to victory for town, it involves lynching Gamma. If Gamma's town, we assume Ari as town & lynch one of Gypyx/Sam. If Gamma's scum, we lynch Ari.

This is looking legit!

[Klick]

shoshin wants gamma
BEF defends gamma

what if I think this might be t/t/t because it feels like y'all are being stubborn/insistent to an extent where I don't really expect this from scum

I want to see where shelly goes with this, because she's 100% right

[Klick]

I'm kinda fascinated by the ease of the gamma wagon but dunno what it means yet lol

I'm more worried about the absence of certain players who are just allowing me to dictate today's lynch despite supposedly scum reading me.

So Shoshin calls out some people for letting her drive through a misfade D2...

...and then immediately this happens:

I claim N1 kill lightning rod

is this a meme I'm unfamiliar with or a serious claim?

Not a full meme but it wasn’t serious

Huh, ok so i was reading gamma's ISO, and i noticed this, we theorized that scum had a redirecting ability right? Well look at that, idk, is it too far fetched?

VOTE: Gamma

Exe-1

Why not Gamma?

your argument is uncompelling, built up by a chain of assumptions about his mindset and sparked by a logically fallacious point about meta

if sincere, I think you're suffering from a pretty bad case of dead reckoning, but I'm actually fine with anyone today who isn't a commuter or hbb

VOTE: gamma

I think AT LEAST one of these votes, if not both, is from scum who are afraid the Gamma wagon will slip away from them if they don't lock it down now.

[Klick]

HUB's reaction to the quickhammer looks sincere especially in contrast to Bell's responses.

[TheGoldenParadox]

shelly is being replaced for the whole role pm thing? or did i miss something

[TheGoldenParadox]

klick is still just scum but like, they're turning around the slot a bit hm

[Klick]

idk if this sounds dumb or not but could the mafia have an inverted killer role like pelican? it says that they could target people even if they were away from town / in another universe which would explain the commuter kills?

This is also a really good post

[Klick]

Shelly's posts on 94 are really good

[Klick]

We have massclaim and we have consensus on an Elim for the day and I'm honestly not sure what to comment on because everything is setup spec atm.

I'm down to do Bell, and I thought them scummy a while back. I would not be surprised if the loyal was redirected tho, which has its benefits I suppose in another sense.

Like, I'll vote once we decide to end the day, I don;t think we're getting anywhere tho, unless I missed something as I skimmed. Day is stagnant and needs to end so we can move on imo.

VOTE: bell this is like. painful levels of associatives in this post

This doesn't actually... mean anything?

Also, this is literally the first thing TGP has said that I thought was worth commenting on.

[Klick]

Uhh legit surprised by the Bell flip lmao. I could have sworn I'd seen him flip as Mafia Strongman. Whoops

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Uhh legit surprised by the Bell flip lmao. I could have sworn I'd seen him flip as Mafia Strongman. Whoops

Lmao what? How

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Hm. Shelly seems scummy. That means Shelly is town. Done. Sorted.

this is town and i reached the same conclusion (so both shelly/tay and tsunami are town)
gypyx is probably town as well
taly seems town
VOTE: samantha this slot is scumpinging me

I kinda liked this and I still like some of tgp's tonal posting but reading more meta on him it is surprising he has no 'scumpings' discussed; as town he tends to scumhunt a little more and not townblock so much

Idk that it's distinct enough to say he's scum over my toneread stuff but at least I get why his posts were bothering sho and shelly more

[Klick]

Uhh legit surprised by the Bell flip lmao. I could have sworn I'd seen him flip as Mafia Strongman. Whoops

Lmao what? How

Honestly no clue. I think I saw discussion of Strongman stuff somewhere and got it confuddled in my head.
It changes my views on setup balance quite a bit

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Lolwhat, unbirthday can be town

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

Damn i missed the pagebottom

VOTE: fish

intent to hammer

If i die tonight, i'd adivse to keep a look on ircher / maybe gamma and BEF

Ok so that explains the 2 Ascetics, at least to some degree

VOTE: Happy Unbirthday i kinda wanna see where this will be going

Pedit : why that ari / tgp / nico pool?

Ok so i'm here, todo :
Find why i excluded Tsunami / Bell being S/S
Find scum

so hub is town
gypyx is town
ydrasse is town
...and that's it. i'm not sure why it's been so difficult to establish a solid townblock this game but i'll read back over and give a readslist in a bit.

Shelly is town also

Hmm

[Klick]

to me the locktown players that should never be lunched are: Us, HBB, bell, BEF, ydrasse

I have no clue why Bell was on this list. And considering the Strongman flip this is suspect.

For Sam to be scum, Sam would have to have either:
-bluffed, which would maybe require a motion detector or something for scum, to *know* exactly who pelican targeted
OR
-targeted the scum nk with a commute (which makes no sense so we can dismiss)

Kinda think HUB townslipped here in a way that's believable. HUB isn't considering the possibility of a Strongman in this analysis.

Evidence that I actually thought Bell flipped Strongman this entire time lol