PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Double the Trouble]

I still think trickling down would have been more optimal, so I hope it doesn’t backfire.

Ya
see

this would have been a great idea
if I thought of it

[Double the Trouble]

Anyhow thats the nature of all in plays
you either go big or go home

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um you are assuming I can control Alisae

hehe

[Ircher]

[Ydrasse never really commented or did any analysis on pichu's case that i know of, and yet she was pretty confident in it at most times.. I considered scum!TMI and decided against it earlier, but now I am less sure.]

My understanding is Ydrasse didn't have that much time D2 and just lent her vote to pichu. I guess that's not the best look, but I wouldn't think this is really scum!TMI.

[Ircher]

*cues Jeopardy music*

Where art thou, Dr Easy Bake.

[Double the Trouble]

it is way past 4/5est

[Polar Bear Express]

I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?

[My opinion on the subject was "This is a waste of time to talk about", not much more than that. This is all irrelevant when we'll be killing off scum shortly]

~Morning

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1275

Trust Fall game.

[Polar Bear Express]

[I thought it was really jokey. If Ydrasses' scumteam killed Hectic, I think she'd be practically obligated to do that bit. It's not like it was her choice to kill him]

you mean she wasn't really shaking ?!

[this?]

me too... im literally shaking and crying rn you dont get it, im heartbroken to lose my rock, my anchor, my soulmason this game, we bonded so much, im in agony, theres a hole ripped inside of me where my heart is and the mafia stole it from me and i think they're eating it in a ritual or something i have to hope theyre using it well but really i am just so numb rn i cant even explain it why did this happen to me why why why why why why why

[I'm lost as to whether or not you're kidding. is there a joke currently soaring over my head rn?]

[I'm legitimately confused now, are you both considering this AtE or are you messing with me]

~Morning

Okay, so @Ydrasse, I’m seriously not getting this. If this was genuine like Pooky’s saying and I obviously read it that way too, then where did that sudden 180 come from?

[Ircher]

Also Gloria, is there a reason your slot's activity level has inverted? As in Noraa has barely posted this day phase it seems whereas you are posting a lot.

[Polar Bear Express]

massclaim ends tomorrow probably while im asleep
don't do anything stupid while im asleep please

Out of curiosity, why did you want the masons outed? Was it to do the mass claim?

- Creature always outs today tbh. It was nice to have him as a LHF for awhile but we don't want that anymore. TBH he wanted to out D2 but I didn't see any reason why he should do that just because he was pressured to.
- The Bell flip is really good and overnight we came up a solve that we're confident in. Outing the masonry as well as massclaiming helps with this.
- Even if we're not confident in it, we don't mind trading mason pieces to flip key slots. If we trade 1 for 1 great, if we hit town, that's also great because we can afford a couple of town deaths and the town deaths will ultimately help us get closer to solving. Pooky may be alone but in the late late game, Pooky alone should be enough to bring it home given all of the previous flips. I'm basically trying to set him as well as the whole village up for success.
- Pooky doesn't have that much thread presence where as I do and if I say "Yo, these are the people that need to die" then its more likely that those people will die.

Yeah but you just gave scum three free NKs, so I don’t really understand how this is helpful? I could understand you outing Creature since he was getting run up yesterday but why you and especially Murderkitty? How doesn’t that put targets on all of your respective heads?

yes
That is what trading is.

Obvious problem with that argument, is being IC, doesn’t make your reads correct, it just makes you not miselimable.

So, I think this was a really silly idea, except of course for Creature. I was recently in a game. I can link it if you like? I was also IC and I was deathtunelled on town!RR and as a result got pocketed by both scum and we lost because everyone wrongly sheeped me. And the absolute worst part of that is I got yelled at post game. :/

Its not about being correct
Part of setting up checkmate is miseliminating some people to try to figure out what scum were doing during the course of the game.

Okay, so you miselim some slots and if your order is off which it obviously is in our case, we trade what? How many possible miselims for three dead ICs?

I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?

We have 2 miselims which should be enough. By the time we hit F7 or F8 and there’s 3 scum left, the game should be super solvable and hopefully we miselimated the right people to help us understand what happened in this game.

Well, that’s obviously my concern, so we just have to hope your reads are right, I’m just concerned that Norwee shouldn’t be getting so overconfident like I was in Trust Fall. Radiant Cowbells made that mistake in a Team Mafia game and scum won that.

[Double the Trouble]

Well, that’s obviously my concern, so we just have to hope your reads are right, I’m just concerned that Norwee shouldn’t be getting so overconfident like I was in Trust Fall. Radiant Cowbells made that mistake in a Team Mafia game and scum won that.

I'm just as concerned about Norwee as you are trust me

[Double the Trouble]

PBE it doesn’t really matter what my reads are or how confident i am. Cus Alisae just overrides me if they disagree.

- Norwee

[Polar Bear Express]

oh

I didn't know that was a meme

I've actually had someone react that way to me dying in a game.

[That would explain it then !]

[In any case I dont think scum!Ydrasse had any hand in who got killed anyway. and if I were scum in Ydrasses' shoes, I'd feel obligated to cry over Hectic after how important he was to her play]

After Hectic was flipped, so I wanted to know if that was out of her scumrange. It’s interesting to me that she isn’t trusting Hectic’s read on us however. Hectic’s only concern was me not posting enough, iirc.

[I'm of the opinion that those posts would have been fairly easy to do as there isn't much actual emotion involved regardless of alignment. The joke was that she was over-exaggerating how upset she was. You don't have to be careful about it looking faked if you intentionally make it really over-the-top.]

~Morning

I don’t understand this. If you think Ydrasse might be scum, then why wouldn’t she have played a role in who got killed?

[Double the Trouble]

It wasn’t evem my idea to have a mass claim. I think just Creature claiming mason would have been fine.

- Norwee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think there's no point to talk about mass claiming or masons coming out or whatever

what's done is done. save the strategy debate for post-game.

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 3.2

Not Voting

(12): Double the Trouble, Spiffeh, Toogelo, Ircher, Ydrasse, mastina, Dr Easy Bake, Solstice, Polar Bear Express, Creature, Dunnstral, MURDERCAT
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-28 21:25:00)

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[Solstice]

I don’t understand this. If you think Ydrasse might be scum, then why wouldn’t she have played a role in who got killed?

[I am pretty sure FL is doing the majority of the shot-calling. And if the scumteam decided that Pichu needed to die (so maybe a PR or mason read + his hard bus on Bell), then even if Ydrasse didn't want that to happen, it wouldn't matter if they had good enough reasons. and I imagine FL is pretty deliberate with his kills]

~Morning

[Double the Trouble]

Save the roasting of Alisae post-game guys.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

Easy Bake do u have a result for us or not.

- Norwee

[Polar Bear Express]

Okay, so you miselim some slots and if your order is off which it obviously is in our case, we trade what? How many possible miselims for three dead ICs?

I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?

its hard to sort the game when the entire game is SRing masons and the game is not suspecting each other. needed to remove masons from the suspect pool to make more interactions happen.

So you can’t just ignore the bad mason reads? Like I obviously get Creature but whatever, what’s done is done. You really should have made me mason here Pooky but I can understand why you didn’t. I probably never told you that it’s my favourite role?

he did

Did he? Did I actually tell you that @Pooky? I don’t recall?

[Polar Bear Express]

So you can’t just ignore the bad mason reads? Like I obviously get Creature but whatever, what’s done is done. You really should have made me mason here Pooky but I can understand why you didn’t. I probably never told you that it’s my favourite role?

you were in the pool i submitted

i blame titus for not making you a mason

<3

[Double the Trouble]

So why didn’t it pass? Did Flavour pick them first?

- Norwee

[Polar Bear Express]

I still think trickling down would have been more optimal, so I hope it doesn’t backfire.

Ya
see

this would have been a great idea
if I thought of it

I have plenty of great ideas and me and Titus have been in talks for me to be the next town stump.

[Polar Bear Express]

um you are assuming I can control Alisae

hehe

Yeah.

[Creature]

ffs