PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Creature]

Why do players chicken out when it is their turn to tell their secrets?

[Ircher]

Also Gloria, is there a reason your slot's activity level has inverted? As in Noraa has barely posted this day phase it seems whereas you are posting a lot.

@Polar Bears

[Ircher]

Why do players chicken out when it is their turn to tell their secrets?

It's possible DEB got busy/forgot.

[Polar Bear Express]

Also Gloria, is there a reason your slot's activity level has inverted? As in Noraa has barely posted this day phase it seems whereas you are posting a lot.

Noraa’s going some very recent really serious rl stuff and it’s not my place to elaborate but it’s really bad.

Also, I was going through a pretty rough time of it myself but obviously nothing remotely compared to what Noraa’s is dealing with, so I thought it only fair I carry my weight especially under those circumstances and give Noraa time to attend to those important rl things she needs to do. Why else even bother to hydra?

I probably sound like a broken record here but you really ought to ISO me in Death Curse where I lurked out the first week and was V/LA the second. It’s really not uncommon for me to not be particularly active in larges or in games with complex mechanics, in the early part of that game and it’s also not uncommon for me to lurk out most of D1 in any game. Now that we got our first scumflip, I have a lot more WIM.

[Double the Trouble]

How relatable.

Forgetting your guilty.

- Norwee

[Ircher]

I meant forgetting to claim. Though speaking of guilties, it did seem DEB softed a guilty result earlier when they were here at the beginning of the day.

[Dunnstral]

Speaking of, I have never ever heard of Solstice’s role in any game ever, so if true and it seems very unlikely to be a fakeclaim, there obviously has to be an actual supersaint in this game.

Nobody has claimed it so they're either a named townie, lying, or scum has the role

[Polar Bear Express]

Well, that’s obviously my concern, so we just have to hope your reads are right, I’m just concerned that Norwee shouldn’t be getting so overconfident like I was in Trust Fall. Radiant Cowbells made that mistake in a Team Mafia game and scum won that.

I'm just as concerned about Norwee as you are trust me

[Dunnstral]

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose).

Something to keep in mind. Solstice probably should have claimed this earlier.

[Double the Trouble]

If it’s not a guilty then it’s not "juicy".
Or at the very least i strongly disagree with their choice of language if that is anything but an guilty.

- Norwee

[Dunnstral]

I suspect it's probably a mafia role

[Ircher]

Supersaint Enabler is kinda eh. I mean, it does raise some eyebrows, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative in either direction.

[Polar Bear Express]

PBE it doesn’t really matter what my reads are or how confident i am. Cus Alisae just overrides me if they disagree.

- Norwee

That sounds like me and Noraa but reversed.

[Dunnstral]

Supersaint Enabler is kinda eh. I mean, it does raise some eyebrows, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative in either direction.

It has implications beyond their alignment

[Polar Bear Express]

It wasn’t evem my idea to have a mass claim. I think just Creature claiming mason would have been fine.

- Norwee

+1

I guess we’re on the same page then.

[Polar Bear Express]

I don’t understand this. If you think Ydrasse might be scum, then why wouldn’t she have played a role in who got killed?

[I am pretty sure FL is doing the majority of the shot-calling. And if the scumteam decided that Pichu needed to die (so maybe a PR or mason read + his hard bus on Bell), then even if Ydrasse didn't want that to happen, it wouldn't matter if they had good enough reasons. and I imagine FL is pretty deliberate with his kills]

~Morning

Well, I think she was really enjoying playing with Hectic, so I think she’d probably be genuinely upset not to have him in the game anymore. So I agree with Pooky that it likely wasn’t faked.

[Polar Bear Express]

Save the roasting of Alisae post-game guys.

- Norwee

Hopefully that won’t even happen. Pooky’s right, we should direct our focus to making the best reads.

[Polar Bear Express]

So why didn’t it pass? Did Flavour pick them first?

- Norwee

Spoiler: Versus Series rules

• Signup Rules
  • There will be nineteen players in all.
    
  • There will be two treestumps: One town and one scum. These players are decided presignups and indicated in the signup title.
    
  • Seventeen players will /in.
    
  • This game has wisdom of the stumps and mod due to the drafting mechanics.
    
  • 13 players will be town and 4 will be group scum. There are no third parties or traitors.
• Creating the Teams
  • The Masonry
    • The Town stump picks how many masons they want up to three.
      
    • For each mason the town stump doesn't pick, they get a one shot normal role of their choice with any normal modifier. Both treestumps are ascetic and unkillable.
      
    • Once the town stump has determined how many masons they want, they submit a list of that many players plus four. (Ex: If the stump picked three masons, the stump would submit seven names.) This will be their mason pool.
      
    • The moderator(s) will take this list and remove the scumteam.
      
    • The moderator(s) will then randomize the remaining names to determine the masons.
      
      
    • These player(s) will then get a private PT with the town treestump.
  • Drafting the Scumteam
    • It's strongly recommended that the scum treestump have discord, skype, or be willing to use site chat to draft their scumteam.
      
    • From the list of 17 players, the moderators say two players who cannot be scum.
      
    • The scum treestump drafts a player.
      
    • The moderator(s) then determine two players who cannot be scum.
      
    • The scum drafter picks again.
      
    • Two more get removed.
      
    • This continues until the scum team is filed.
      
    • The scum and their stump have a PT.
  • Creating the setup
    • Once the scumteam has their players, the scum treestump creates their team's roles.
      
    • The scumteam can pick most anything they want, and the moderators balance town around their pick.
      
    • The scumstump may also submit two rules the moderators must follow when designing the setup. (Ex: No cops/gunsmiths, All town must be joats). Any broken rules will be rejected.
      
    • The scumteam may not pick any alignment changing roles or any roles that automatically tell them who the masons are. Any gamebreakingly OP scum roles will be rejected.
      
    • Once the scumteam has their roles and the masons are determined, the moderators design the setup within 48 hours.
      
    • Balance is strived for but not guaranteed.
      
    • The moderators may create new roles or mechanics to create a fun setup.

Did you read the setup? Pooky has to select a pool of mason picks, he isn’t guaranteed to get any of them.

[Polar Bear Express]

Also Gloria, is there a reason your slot's activity level has inverted? As in Noraa has barely posted this day phase it seems whereas you are posting a lot.

@Polar Bears

I already answered that.

[Double the Trouble]

we can talk about the supersaint enabler once massclaim has ended guys

[Double the Trouble]

Did you read the setup? Pooky has to select a pool of mason picks, he isn’t guaranteed to get any of them.

weird how i understand this and most of the masonry didn't

[Double the Trouble]

like I designed part of the mechanic tho.
like it just makes sense.

[Double the Trouble]

I didn’t read the setup tbh.

- Norwee

[Polar Bear Express]

Speaking of, I have never ever heard of Solstice’s role in any game ever, so if true and it seems very unlikely to be a fakeclaim, there obviously has to be an actual supersaint in this game.

Nobody has claimed it so they're either a named townie, lying, or scum has the role

I’ve never seen a scum supersaint before but I suppose anything’s possible. I’m not sure I understand the named townie thing though? But yeah if Solstice is telling the truth about their claim and it’s a weird claim to make up, then it wouldn’t make any sense to have a supersaint enabler without a supersaint, so yeah something’s definitely not adding up with the claims.

[Polar Bear Express]

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose).

Something to keep in mind. Solstice probably should have claimed this earlier.

Yeah good point. @Solstice, why did you wait on that?