PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Spiffeh]

Ok

Xenoblade 2 noraa rolled scum and was super inactive and awkward in the thread and the whole scum team was PoE'd by the end of the first Day

I know a lot about her thought process in this game because I replaced in as her scum buddy and her lack of motivation was very clear in the scum PT

This game goes into signups soon after that game ends and she makes it VERY clear she wants to be town, and seems very excited in general to play

I do not believe that noraa can roll scum this game and still be as consistently active and present as she has been throughout. I think rolling scum would have been such a huge blow to her morale and enthusiasm that she couldn't even muster up the confidence to post even half of what she's posted

[MURDERCAT]

Did you read death curse?

[Spiffeh]

Nope

While I'm definitely using a meta argument I think a lot of my points are specific to Noraa's mindset for this game specifically

What happened with her in Death Curse?

[Ydrasse]

noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc

[Ydrasse]

it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure

[Double the Trouble]

Spiffy what do you think about Solstice's justification for why they didn't claim supersaint enabler earlier?

[MURDERCAT]

What happened with her in Death Curse?

1500 posts from scum Noraa and extremely high WIM.

[MURDERCAT]

If you are going to use a meta argument, I think you have to have read that game.

[Spiffeh]

I'll take a look when I get a chance

[Double the Trouble]

Spiffy out of the remaining players alive, not including you or any of the masons, who are you likely to first pick in draft here.
This is probably a stupid question but just humor me plz

[Solstice]

I suggested this to Pooky and Pooky was like "bro why doesn't she just claim VT"
and first I was like "Ya that's a good question"
but now im like "idunno, having town think there's a supersaint in the game could be good for scum, maybe its possible that scum could do something with that."

cuz like the justification for the claim to me comes across as super messy but it probably is just a red harring or something.

[Sure there's probably some conceivable scenario where scum wants us to think there's a supersaint, and maybe thats even why FL caused our role to happen. But you're paranoid of something you don't even have a hypothesis for yet? like do you have an idea of why scum wants us to be paranoid of hammers]

[and yea again I wasn't really thinking about it, I thought of it like enabling a town PR where we wouldn't want to out it and warn scum of its existence -- I realize that is really dumb now cause then we could just always leash the hammers, but i was thinking of it in a more conventional way]

~Morning

[Spiffeh]

Am I Pooky or Flavor Leaf in this scenario?

[Spiffeh]

If I'm town tree stump I draft Netflix and Chill first every time

Probably the same as scum tree stump actually

[Flavor Leaf]

“Which FL played in.”

I caught her on her first post of the game, don’t undersell me in Xenoblade 2

[Flavor Leaf]

I am town reading Polar Bears purely because I just played a game with scum!noraa where she was very guarded, inactive, and unmotivated and after that game there's no way scum!noraa:

1. Can translate her enthusiasm/desire to be town in the signup thread to the game thread in a believable way if she actually rolled scum here
2. Was chosen by Flavor Leaf in the first place after her less than stellar performance in Xenoblade 2, which Flavor Leaf played in and is well aware of

I will admit that at times in this game I have certainly written them off because of this and haven't really focused on reading them after first coming to my conclusion, but I think it is so unlikely that my two points above are wrong that I don't think it's worth the effort

^

[Double the Trouble]

Am I Pooky or Flavor Leaf in this scenario?

FL and netflix isn't alive also we know they're town so fl didn't/couldn't pick them

[Double the Trouble]

I am town reading Polar Bears purely because I just played a game with scum!noraa where she was very guarded, inactive, and unmotivated and after that game there's no way scum!noraa:

1. Can translate her enthusiasm/desire to be town in the signup thread to the game thread in a believable way if she actually rolled scum here
2. Was chosen by Flavor Leaf in the first place after her less than stellar performance in Xenoblade 2, which Flavor Leaf played in and is well aware of

I will admit that at times in this game I have certainly written them off because of this and haven't really focused on reading them after first coming to my conclusion, but I think it is so unlikely that my two points above are wrong that I don't think it's worth the effort

^

also FL to pooky: I drafted noraa this game

[Flavor Leaf]

Am I Pooky or Flavor Leaf in this scenario?

FL and netflix isn't alive also we know they're town so fl didn't/couldn't pick them

I wasn’t lying when I said I wanted them as my #1. They got banned first.

[Double the Trouble]

Am I Pooky or Flavor Leaf in this scenario?

FL and netflix isn't alive also we know they're town so fl didn't/couldn't pick them

I wasn’t lying when I said I wanted them as my #1. They got banned first.

just first pick them 4head

[Spiffeh]

As scum tree stump of the remaining non-mason players I would pick Toogeloo or mastina I guess? I'm not super familiar with any of the others besides Ircher who I feel is scum read earlier based on his play style all the time so he wouldn't be one of my top picks

[Double the Trouble]

As scum tree stump of the remaining non-mason players I would pick Toogeloo or mastina I guess? I'm not super familiar with any of the others besides Ircher who I feel is scum read earlier based on his play style all the time so he wouldn't be one of my top picks

why would you first pick toogeloo?

[Spiffeh]

I mean you have limited my options so drastically that I don't have a good reason to first pick any of them

I don't even know if I've ever seen scum!Toog but I know he's an experienced player and doubt he's as bad as he claims to be as scum after playing for so many years

[Double the Trouble]

I mean thats probably not what I would do tbh.
I feel like drafting around your first pick is pretty important but meh.

mastina I could like maybe see.

Meh this is garbage

[Double the Trouble]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=80057 this was the one time I played with scum!toog and tbh i didn't even play this game much if not at all

[Double the Trouble]

Spiffy if u r town just town it up thats all i ask