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[JohnnyFarrar]

Dooooooooont

[JohnnyFarrar]

What a dumb pagetop

[PlusJOYED]

jk don't take that the wrong way

[PlusJOYED]

@plus
Flavor wagon yesterday seems to have no scum on it with the exception of Unwind, so
a) Flavor is scum and so he did not get any scum push
B) Flavor is town and scum wanted to wait on it except for unwind
c) Flavor and Unwind is town and scum did not jump on that wagon.

I am looking at the other two pushes and seeing where votes ae falling on them so I will likely unvote and vote somewhere else depending

doing a VCA as we speak

well that's a weird way to look at things I don't quite follow.

[PlusJOYED]

I'll confess to playing suboptimal this game. So here's my top of the dome read:

Insane seems town, unlike hank, but does also tie himself to flavortown

Fuzzo prolly town still. Don't really have any nuanced thoughts beyond that. I like their last post and excited to see the vca

Plus asks good questions so I don't really wanna Elim them

Unwnd just.... not wanting? To play better? Feels bad.

Noraa is cool

Prolly not gonna vote nopo today

sounds to me like you're PLing hank due to weak townreads across the board which I think is sus

[JohnnyFarrar]

Can you phrase that different

[Insanoflex]

I'll confess to playing suboptimal this game. So here's my top of the dome read:

Insane seems town, unlike hank, but does also tie himself to flavortown

Fuzzo prolly town still. Don't really have any nuanced thoughts beyond that. I like their last post and excited to see the vca

Plus asks good questions so I don't really wanna Elim them

Unwnd just.... not wanting? To play better? Feels bad.

Noraa is cool

Prolly not gonna vote nopo today

Do you have any scumreads at all? (I don't know how I seem town, I've done basically nothing)

[nopointinactingup]

I feel there's a lot of focus on Johnny and I today and in my position that's really a sign that we are going to lynch town or have a no elim again. There's a high chance we're being put in this position by the scum team.

Plus, you are trying to change the game state and pushing for something so I have a feeling that you might be town, albeit misguided. I don't see where you're going with the framing theory when both Johnny and I already either implied or stated our unwillingness to lim Nora today. Do you think a scum-team would entirely change strategy just because a friend replaced in?

I personally think the Titus kill even made Shelly less likely to be scum as smart scum often go for subtle kills instead of direct threats. So I could also re-use your argument for you masterminding the kill here to implicated me and Johnny.

I'm going to entertain the thought that you're right about Shelly's playstyle then the one behind the Titus kill here should be in the sidelines and inactive, waiting for town to suicide on Night Kill Analysis. There is no need for scum to pick sides when lim on either side benefits them, and the stale state of this game is looking like it's something like that. Among my biggest suspects for this scenario are FL, Hank (before the replacement) and geraint due solely to their inactivity and that's why I'm pressuring people with votes to get some inputs on where they are.

Particularly, I feel FL disappearing off the map as soon as pressure disappears off him is scummy. Scum vig-enabler is a very possible reality.

[PlusJOYED]

Plus, you are trying to change the game state and pushing for something so I have a feeling that you might be town, albeit misguided. I don't see where you're going with the framing theory when both Johnny and I already either implied or stated our unwillingness to lim Nora today. Do you think a scum-team would entirely change strategy just because a friend replaced in?

you have a point there. Might've stopped after I said that but less likely.

[unwnd]

Give me time and things about me will start to make sense

[PlusJOYED]

Particularly, I feel FL disappearing off the map as soon as pressure disappears off him is scummy. Scum vig-enabler is a very possible reality

I liked the way you were headed until this. Why would a town cop enabler mean a scum vig enabler? This feels very specific and a bit tmi

[PlusJOYED]

But yeah nopoint I've liked what you said more today. You were a suspect because you and shelly voted each other to me. So I'd think you'd have a reason to frame shelly the most. But I agree there is at least 1 scum among the inactives anyway.

[PlusJOYED]

Can you phrase that different

it's like you're tossing out weak townreads to a lot of slots and gonna vote for whoever isn't in that cluster. It seems like a scum tactic

[PlusJOYED]

actually for now
UNVOTE: nopoint
VOTE: johnyfarar

[Flavor Leaf]

Sorry, I saw Noraa replaced in and absolutely didn’t wanna think about this game.

I didn’t know I hit prod range already

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s a lot of new stuff it seems, and I saw Andres post, so I’ll be here in a little bit to respond/catchup.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

1-2
1.

Titus

[0]:
2. Andresvmb [2]: geraintm, JohnnyFarrar
3. unwnd [0]:
4

Flavor Leaf

[1]: shellyc
5. Hank Spankems [0]:
6. shellyc [2]: PlusJOYED

Titus

7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8.

Not_Mafia

:Hank Spankems
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:
10. geraintm [0]:
11.

TheFuzzyLogic99

[0]:
12.

Dunnstral

[1]: nopointinactingup
13. nopointinactingup [2]: unwnd

Not_Mafia

Not Voting [4]:

TheFuzzyLogic99

,

Dunnstral

,Andresvmb,

Flavor Leaf

1-3

1.

Titus

[0]:
2. Andresvmb [2]geraintm JohnnyFarrar
3. unwnd [1]: shellyc
4.

Flavor Leaf

[3]: nopointinactingup unwnd

Dunnstral

5. Hank Spankems [0]:
6. shellyc [1]:

Titus

7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8. Not_Mafia [2]: Hank Spankems PlusJOYED
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]
10. geraintm [0]:
11. T

heFuzzyLogic99

[0]:
12.

Dunnstral

[2]:

Flavor Leaf

Andresvm
13. nopointinactingup [1]:

Not_Mafia

Not Voting [1]:

TheFuzzyLogic99

1-4
1;1.

Titus

[0]:
2. Andresvmb [1]: geraintm
3. unwnd [1]:

Not_Mafia

4. Flavor Leaf [1]:

Dunnstral

]5. Hank Spankems [1]: unwnd
6. shellyc [3]: nopointinactingup

Titus

JohnnyFarrar
7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8. Not_Mafia [1]: PlusJOYED
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:
10. geraintm [0]:
11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:
12. Dunnstral [3]:

Flavor Leaf

, Andresvmb Hank Spankems
13. nopointinactingup [1]: shellyC

1-5
1.

Titus

[0]:
2. Andresvmb [2] geraintm JohnnyFarrar
3. unwnd [1]: shellyc
4.

Flavor Leaf

: unwnd

Dunnstral

Titus

Not_Mafia

5. Hank Spankems [0]:
6. shellyc [0]:
7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8.

Not_Mafia

[2]: Hank Spankems PlusJOYED
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]
]10. geraintm [0]
11.

TheFuzzyLogic99

[0]:
12.

Dunnstral

[3]:

Flavor Leaf

Andresvmb nopointinactingup
13. nopointinactingup

Final Count

1.

Titus [

0]:
2. Andresvmb [1]: geraintm
3. unwnd [1]:

Not_Mafia

4.

Flavor Leaf

[1]:

Dunnstral

]5. Hank Spankems [1]: unwnd
6. shellyc [3]: nopointinactingup

Titus

JohnnyFarrar
7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8.

Not_Mafia

[1]: PlusJOYED
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:
10. geraintm [0]:
11.

TheFuzzyLogic99

[0]:
12. Dunnstral [3]:

Flavor Leaf

Andresvmb Hank Spankems
13. nopointinactingup [1]: shellyC

[Insanoflex]

Can you phrase that different

it's like you're tossing out weak townreads to a lot of slots and gonna vote for whoever isn't in that cluster. It seems like a scum tactic

I have a very hard time seeing him throwing out so many townreads as a scum strategy, actually.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

There is def scum between
Non. John, Andre and Hank

unvote

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Flavor is still a posiibility but a mafia vig enabler seems like an odd role,,,but anything is possible

[TheFuzzylogic99]

forgot
green=town
red=scum
blue- possible/likely town
black- unknown

[Insanoflex]

not sure what to do here,,,,,,I dont want to vote flavor as I want to give him more time to be sorted but we are now against the deadline.... I think I might vote Flavor bc of us hitting the deadline. I am not sure

Don't care for this post actually.

I'm liking this shelly wagon, her blatant shading/ignoring points against her is scummy.

Titus and Dunn are clearly scum here.

FL trying to tie Dunn to Titus here near the end of the day looks pretty scummy too, I wouldn't rule out FL-dunn bussing team.

so nopoint calls FL scummy for trying to die Dunn to Titus, and then...proceeds to try to tie FL and Dunn together.

[JohnnyFarrar]

All these close to naked votes on FL as he's about to show effort makes me think he's town unless I'm missing something and effort-FL is a scum thing. FL's wagon actually was pretty productive there's gotta be some scum material here. Dunn's vote is pretty scummy and I already have a scum-read on him so I have no qualm about joining his wagon.
Vote:Dunntral

Towns are unwnd, andres, johnny, fuzzy, Plus. scumies are dunn, maybe FL

These posts came 12 minutes apart.

This is town to me insano

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also completely missed flavos claim

[Insanoflex]

I’m willing to believe dunn on his claim, did everyone forget how FL tried to set up a titus dunn scum team yesterday who are both town

This is such a crappy post, Lol.

All these close to naked votes on FL as he's about to show effort makes me think he's town unless I'm missing something and effort-FL is a scum thing. FL's wagon actually was pretty productive there's gotta be some scum material here. Dunn's vote is pretty scummy and I already have a scum-read on him so I have no qualm about joining his wagon.
Vote:Dunntral

Towns are unwnd, andres, johnny, fuzzy, Plus. scumies are dunn, maybe FL

These posts came 12 minutes apart.

This is town to me insano

Askin again: do you have any scumreads? because the stuff you posted off the top of your head was all toward the town side.