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[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci, did you ever play minish cap?

[GFITAC]

Hey, it’s ya boi Gamms back at it again at

Krispy Kreme

Tenet Mafia
Before I really fuckin’ dive into shit I wanna say I feel like the Tenet kill is mega-indicative that scum are in a spot where they don’t want fresh eyes seeing into their plans
I have suspects for this but I’ll just let Spiffeh squirm a bit

[GFITAC]

I read the period of the forwards thread between our hammer and the night start and I had some thoughts

• I initially liked the townblock there. I still mostly trust it but it will depend on how things go from here.
  
• Gypyx seemed pretty decent. I especially liked him stopping the pre-flip discussion on Flavor.
  
• I liked zmuffinman’s way of expressing his concern about the game strategy wrt what happens if we only get close but don’t hit the goal.
  
• HP seemed suspicious in spots but what really bothers me is their weird interest in being right over Debbie on Flavor. I know Flavor has been pocketed into lining thread-masons with scum before, and tbh that seems like HP wanted to have that interaction “canonized”. That’s a weird word to use but IMO it captures the perceived motive there.

Another thing I’d like to bring up is I ended up being right on Noraa so don’t try to discredit me further because I actually was the sane one in that case and as such I’m not taking any shit.
-BCCorp

[GFITAC]

Ultimately I'm not really too bothered by missing on day 1. Pooky went all out for ther sake of killing a VT and looks to be pretty clear scum. Losing FL is unfortunate and I have to admit I can't read Boon for shit, but if we don't fuck this game up, we get to have confirmed town flavor leaf come back on day 7 and solve the game, and hell, he'll probably enjoy that, at least fot the 10 minutes it'll take him to make 25 posts. midwaybear's wagon vote is pretty terrible as well. it's possible pooky went all out because he felt FL was a threat to skitter. certainly fits his MO.

ATTENTION SAVAGES: i'm not going to endure you talking shit about our thread when you were about to push through a mislim on someone claiming a role with a confirmable counterpart. i don't necessarily blame you for misreading shelly, i can hardly claim to have townread her, but but at some point you're going to accept that someone you like is probably scum. you need to take a hard look at all the people who were actively throwiong doubt on shelly's role - i have that written down as spiffeh, titus, hench, annie, and bell. annie, to their credit, at least had wanted to wait and give shelly a night to, you know, possibly confirm her role, so points there, at the very least. i'm not going to tell you who is scum in there because it would be presumptuous when i've only been casually glancing at your game, but i will tell you there is almost certainly scum in there, because scum wants to abuse setup spec to secure a miselimination in that fashion.

hopefully at this point we can abandon the quixotic quest to rid one thread of scum entirely, as well.

UNVOTE: pookythemagicalbear


1/10

Pretty decent post I think

UNVOTE: skitter30

This is for both threads, please send!

Imperium was going to decide the purple room choice for both sides. Dandelion and we know the two options that were on the table and we'll do our best to push through the decision process that we all discussed in the neighborhood.

Also, Imperium wanted our side to NOT turnstile anyone today. And wanted A50 turnstiled to this thread.

They wanted some scrutiny on Brian Skies in the forwards thread and on midway bear in this thread.

How do I know you’re not fabricating purple room thread contents? I’m less skeptical of you than other slots but I think you should not be trusting cabd like you are rn. So until I ascertain you’re playing with a proper headspace I’ll treat you with the same ginger hands as my top suspects.

-BCCorp

[Dandelion Wine]

How do I know you’re not fabricating purple room thread contents? I’m less skeptical of you than other slots but I think you should not be trusting cabd like you are rn. So until I ascertain you’re playing with a proper headspace I’ll treat you with the same ginger hands as my top suspects.

She would have to be scum with me to be fabricating it.

[GFITAC]

@Cabd- any thoughts on my EoD theory about the PTs?

Are we on the same page?

I am even more on this train as of a few minutes ago. It didn't really come up much last night.

But... time to utter the words I dread...


Marketplace Mafia III parallels.

Who/what are these parallels about? As far as I can tell it’s just a thing regarding reading zmuffinman
-BCCorp

[GFITAC]

I would like a paraphrased but detailed account of Nacho/Tammy's reads from the Purple Room

Specifically, if they wanted Almost50 turnstiled, who did they want limmed over here?

You will definitely get this, but there's a lot of value in you guys working without this info for a bit.

Also, y'all please purple room Spiffeh!

I definitely DON’T want Spiffeh voted into the purple room yet. Maybe later, but not now. DO NOT RUSH THIS.

yeah skitter wasn't endanger of being lynched when pooky came over.

but pooky is still scum for various reasons. we can take the tinfoil hat off that pooky acted to defend scum!skitter tho

Yeah, while Pooky is hard-sus I don’t feel confident skitter is scum rn

-BCCorp

[GFITAC]

Yeah that points to scum in the influences and/or widely townread ppl

Good post
Btw the reason I don’t trust Spiffeh rn is his response to this talk was to attack it on the basis of those suggesting it happened had to have legitimate suspects. They don’t, and talking about it openly let’s them hash out who might have wanted to do that with others who feel the same way.
-BCCorp

[skitter30]

I think spiffeh is town
Also gamma is town, i forgot to say that earlier

[Deacon Blues]

ffery when you wake up, not sure what to make of the cute fast food boy anymore. Still want to hold onto it, but losing reasons to.

I'm here for a little while. Ceiling repair guy will be here in a few. After that, I hope to be asleep some more.

I kinda can't hold on to it right now. :/

[Deacon Blues]

I would like a paraphrased but detailed account of Nacho/Tammy's reads from the Purple Room

Specifically, if they wanted Almost50 turnstiled, who did they want limmed over here?

You will definitely get this, but there's a lot of value in you guys working without this info for a bit.

Also, y'all please purple room Spiffeh!

I definitely DON’T want Spiffeh voted into the purple room yet. Maybe later, but not now. DO NOT RUSH THIS.

yeah skitter wasn't endanger of being lynched when pooky came over.

but pooky is still scum for various reasons. we can take the tinfoil hat off that pooky acted to defend scum!skitter tho

Yeah, while Pooky is hard-sus I don’t feel confident skitter is scum rn

-BCCorp

I know things about the purple room that you don't, unless you're scum with dandelion.

Spiffeh and Superbowl need to be there tonight.

The only other acceptable combination to Imperium was us/Annie.

If ~stuff happens~ today that overrides NachoTammy's reasons for wanting Spiffeh and Superbowl in the purple room tonight, I'll be able to figure that out, I hope.

[superbowl9]

Gamma can you give me some reads please? Or strategy on what we should be doing in our thread?

[superbowl9]

On the behalf of the Hi-C club I humbly accept your invitation

Also how does purple rooming work? Like if we send me to the purple room from this side and then get turnstyled what does that mean?

[Deacon Blues]

Would like an elaboration on what happens after my townflip plz

Would like a very very clear answer to this because i see how the next like 3 days are going to go if not

What exactly do you plan to get out of this answer?

My answer to this is always going to be "reassess the gamestate based on what i know now that I didn't before". Feel like that should be pretty self evident.

-b

[GFITAC]

I would like a paraphrased but detailed account of Nacho/Tammy's reads from the Purple Room

Specifically, if they wanted Almost50 turnstiled, who did they want limmed over here?

You will definitely get this, but there's a lot of value in you guys working without this info for a bit.

Also, y'all please purple room Spiffeh!

I definitely DON’T want Spiffeh voted into the purple room yet. Maybe later, but not now. DO NOT RUSH THIS.

yeah skitter wasn't endanger of being lynched when pooky came over.

but pooky is still scum for various reasons. we can take the tinfoil hat off that pooky acted to defend scum!skitter tho

Yeah, while Pooky is hard-sus I don’t feel confident skitter is scum rn

-BCCorp

I know things about the purple room that you don't, unless you're scum with dandelion.

Spiffeh and Superbowl need to be there tonight.

The only other acceptable combination to Imperium was us/Annie.

If ~stuff happens~ today that overrides NachoTammy's reasons for wanting Spiffeh and Superbowl in the purple room tonight, I'll be able to figure that out, I hope.

I guess those sets work for me. Let’s just not rush anything, okay?

Gamma can you give me some reads please? Or strategy on what we should be doing in our thread?

Pooky, cabd hydra, HP scum. Spiffeh potentially scum. You, Annie, unwnd, skitter, peta, Gypyx, zmuffinman, Bell, et al. town. Deacon town but handling with care. That’s what crops up quickly.
As for a plan, I just want us to talk shot through today rather than for ramming a decision down everyone’s throats. The townblock isn’t out rn but they need to justify.

-BCCorp

[Deacon Blues]

I am pissed off at dandelion and deacon, for going "ohh now we scumread skitter" after everythig that happened yesterday.

I'm not gonna apologize for not having the same worldview as you yesterday and I'm not gonna apologize for being wrong now if we're wrong now

Do you still scumread skitter? because if you do I think this is a really misguided sentiment

-b

[skitter30]

Ok then i am assuming that there is scum in cabd/ffery, and that upon my townflip you lot are going to expect the other crumbs to out and try to flip them for being a cc to me, and will be dedicating the rest of time to ensuring that doesnt happen

[SirCakez]

Elimination Votecount 6.19

PookyTheMagicalBear (3) - superbowl9, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, Something_Smart, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

midwaybear (2) - Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

skitter30 (2) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Dandelion Wine (1) - superbowl9, Petapan, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

superbowl9 (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Petapan (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

GFITAC (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Deacon Blues (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Something_Smart (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Firebringer (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

LadyLambdadelta (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Pisskop (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

(expired on 2021-01-04 12:54:00) remain until day end

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Spoiler: Turnstile

Turnstile Votecount 6.19

superbowl9 (2) - Petapan, GFITAC, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Petapan (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

GFITAC (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Deacon Blues (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Dandelion Wine (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

midwaybear (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Something_Smart (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Firebringer (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

LadyLambdadelta (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

skitter30 (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Pisskop (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

PookyTheMagicalBear (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

(expired on 2021-01-04 12:54:00) remain until day end

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Spoiler: Purple Room

Purple Room Votecount 6.19

superbowl9 (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Petapan (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

GFITAC (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Deacon Blues (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Dandelion Wine (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

midwaybear (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Something_Smart (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Firebringer (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

LadyLambdadelta (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

skitter30 (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

Pisskop (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

PookyTheMagicalBear (0) - superbowl9, Petapan, GFITAC, Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, midwaybear, Something_Smart, Firebringer, LadyLambdadelta, skitter30, PookyTheMagicalBear, Pisskop

(expired on 2021-01-04 12:54:00) remain until day end

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

[GFITAC]

I don't think killing Noraa-slot is really what I would call low info.

Killing a newly-replaced-in secret alt who's a potential wildcard, maybe.

Or maybe they thought the replace-out spewed the slot as town.

While I generally agree with your feelings I’m confused why you felt the rep-out spewed Noraa-town, that actually gave me pause on my read
Btw I think I’ll slot you in with my townreads for now
-BCCorp

[Deacon Blues]

Ok then i am assuming that there is scum in cabd/ffery, and that upon my townflip you lot are going to expect the other crumbs to out and try to flip them for being a cc to me, and will be dedicating the rest of time to ensuring that doesnt happen

FWIW ffery is willing to take the cabd town read to the grave here.
Otherwise I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. There is likely a scum investigative somewhere and we've got a ton of softs and they're likely not all town

-b

[superbowl9]

Ty gamma. Thoughts on midwaybear? I figure a fellow low activity slot may have an insight

[Deacon Blues]

As for a plan, I just want us to talk shot through today rather than for ramming a decision down everyone’s throats.

I absolutely don't want the elim decision to be hasty or forced. That is not the stuff from which reads are spun.

[Deacon Blues]

coming into today I personally wanted to kick pooky to the curb for just insisting in twilight that this is just "aaaaaaaabsolutely gonna still flip scum don't worry guys we got this" in that it's a really easy thing to emote about and didn't seem particularly interested in the town twilight claim

I still kinda feel that way

-b

[Deacon Blues]

@ffery- wanted to make sure we were on the same page on both sides.

If you want a different pair we send a different pair. As long as us+Cabd is synced I’m good.

We are synched barring unexpected upset applecarts.

UNVOTE: turnstile superb owl

I screwed this vote up. :/

VOTE: turnstile superb owl

UNVOTE: purple room superb owl

Once again.

WE DO NOT TURNSTILE INTO FORWARD TIMESTREAM TODAY.

Thanks!

[skitter30]

There is likely a scum investigative somewhere and we've got a ton of softs and they're likely not all town

I know, and i'm saying that i'm town and i can see how the next three days go if y'all flip me: you go down the list of all the softs you saw and just keep plowing through until (if) you hit scum, and i'm objecting