PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Double the Trouble]

@Players who think Ydrasse is scum for fluffing

- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85282 here's your evidence that helps prove Ydra is town for fluffing. Hell tbh, in her scum games I find that she fluffs way less.

[Dunnstral]

Nobody has claimed it so they're either a named townie, lying, or scum has the role

Possible, but also possible: it's a red herring to make us paranoid of a scum supersaint.

There's no downside to playing as if there is a scum supersaint at this point in time

That means masons aren't the last person to vote, and ideally we vig DEB when I flip town

That isn't so hard

[Polar Bear Express]

I'm out of time, so I'll try to do more later. Noraa has been my #1 scum pick for a while, and I am going to attempt to paint the picture as to why.

I think you’re either scum or you’re town ignoring my posts, who apparently hasn’t learned a damn thing from almost miscrolling me in Death Curse but that’s not why I think you’re scum though, It’s both your post on Creature, plus you jumping off Bell to vote both Creature and Mastina.

[Polar Bear Express]

[Anyway here's what i was curious about]

Spoiler: Ydrasse on Polarbear

oh no... oh no no no polar bear express no.... what are you doing sweetie......

i'm just going to pretend i don't see these posts... *smiles sweetly*

vt!

town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans

scum: polar bear express, toogeloo, spiffeh, maybe dunnstral

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@Ydrasse

, what exactly did you find scummy about Polarbears?]

~Morning

[bump bump bump]

~Morning

i have my reasons and i would like to be quiet on them for now

Why?

[mastina]

wow, {dunn, DEB} contains 1 scum min
what a surprise.

A real shocker, I know.

I could obviously vote Dunn here but I'm not obsessed with the mafiascum equivalent of K/DA (that is, needing to be on a scum elimination) enough where I feel a need to be on Dunn right now--Dunn is, 100%, no questions asked, the obvious elimination today. But I'll wait to vote there until the masons ask me to since the day should end when the masons say it should, not sooner than that.

[Double the Trouble]

Gloria I'm not sure if u posted it but I think I need to see why you think its toogeloo

[Double the Trouble]

Also guys if mafia does have a supersaint, we should be playing around a hated supersaint.
just letting ywall know that, at least I am going to play around that.

[Polar Bear Express]

I'm a bit confused about the question?
N1 I checked Ircher, got a negative result, they didn't go and kill someone.
N2 I checked Dunnstral, got a positive result, they did go and kill someone.

I’m a bit surprised by this but it sounds legit. I’d just trust it more if you were a tracker or something like that. The Ircher result does make it seem believable though.

[Polar Bear Express]

N2 I checked Dunnstral, got a positive result, they did go and kill someone.

Which night did Dunn kill though?

+1

Good question

[Polar Bear Express]

The role doesn't provide that info @MURDERCAT.

Oh nm then.

[Polar Bear Express]

Yeah, I don't know when the kill happened, just that at some point they killed someone.
It could have been N1, N2, or both.
Technically it's not even a full inno or anything from Ircher, but my result coupled with their actions pretty much clears them in my book.

The Dunn guilty means he killed at least once but the Ircher inno means Ircher never killed anyone, right?

So, how isn’t it a full inno then or am I misunderstanding this?

[Polar Bear Express]

Norwee no offense but I kinda hope you're the first mason to die so I don't have to deal with you in future days!

Lol he’s obnoxious am i rite?

Awwe, I <3 Norwee.

[Double the Trouble]

Norwee no offense but I kinda hope you're the first mason to die so I don't have to deal with you in future days!

Lol he’s obnoxious am i rite?

Awwe, I <3 Norwee.

if I didn't I wouldn't have asked him to hydra

[Double the Trouble]

but ya he sins out of his fucking mind

[Dunnstral]

Yeah, I don't know when the kill happened, just that at some point they killed someone.
It could have been N1, N2, or both.
Technically it's not even a full inno or anything from Ircher, but my result coupled with their actions pretty much clears them in my book.

The Dunn guilty means he killed at least once but the Ircher inno means Ircher never killed anyone, right?

So, how isn’t it a full inno then or am I misunderstanding this?

Just because you didn't kill someone, doesn't mean you're not scum.

You know how they send only one of them to perform the kill.

In any case, he's lying about his role.

[mastina]

Does anyone want to be the person that hammers?

Ideally, just to appease supersaint paranoia, it should be a volunteer from the players that're loosely in the suspect pool, e.g. Spiffeh, Toogeloo (good luck on that one though), maybe someone who we think is town but is possible to be scum which others have fingered (e.g. Solstice, Ydrasse).

But coordinating that might be more trouble than it's worth especially if the designated volunteer doesn't want to actually follow through.

[Polar Bear Express]

Norwee no offense but I kinda hope you're the first mason to die so I don't have to deal with you in future days!

Don’t worry. Our hydra will die first. It’s pretty much non-negotiable.

- Norwee

Can I convince you to get Ydrasse or Toogeloo over Spiffeh?

I would need to be proven wrong when it comes to some individuals before I re-evaluate those 2 players.

I would definitely prefer Toog but Ydrasse is being kind of weird now with her unexplained 180, I’d really like Pooky to answer my question because I’d really like to know why he seems to have a double standard when it comes to me and Ydrasse. I really want an answer to that @Pooky.

[mastina]

(I feel the need to apologize--right now my attention is divided so I am catching up here slower than normal. Sorry!)

[Polar Bear Express]

Norwee no offense but I kinda hope you're the first mason to die so I don't have to deal with you in future days!

Don’t worry. Our hydra will die first. It’s pretty much non-negotiable.

- Norwee

Can I convince you to get Ydrasse or Toogeloo over Spiffeh?

I would need to be proven wrong when it comes to some individuals before I re-evaluate those 2 players.

I would definitely prefer Toog but Ydrasse is being kind of weird now with her unexplained 180, I’d really like Pooky to answer my question because I’d really like to know why he seems to have a double standard when it comes to me and Ydrasse. I really want an answer to that @Pooky.

However, I obviously can’t ignore the Dunn guilty.

[Polar Bear Express]

I read 1 line of toogeloo’s noraa case
I saw the word fluff
And that alone was enough to just skip over that entire case LOL

If it weren’t for that scummy Creature comment and his jumping off of the Bell wagon to vote Creature or Mastina, I’d probably consider him to be badly confibiased town who still thinks he has decent reads despite almost miscrolling me in Death Curse.

[Spiffeh]

I am so disappointed in your catch up speed mastina

apology not accepted

[Polar Bear Express]

Dw toogeloo,
I got you when it comes to scum!Polar bears cuz i dunno why people are townreading that slot myself tbh

Bad Norwee! Bad! I don’t know why you’re not?

[Double the Trouble]

I read 1 line of toogeloo’s noraa case
I saw the word fluff
And that alone was enough to just skip over that entire case LOL

If it weren’t for that scummy Creature comment and his jumping off of the Bell wagon to vote Creature or Mastina, I’d probably consider him to be badly confibiased town who still thinks he has decent reads despite almost miscrolling me in Death Curse.

i don't think scum votes mastina there period

[Double the Trouble]

Dw toogeloo,
I got you when it comes to scum!Polar bears cuz i dunno why people are townreading that slot myself tbh

Bad Norwee! Bad! I don’t know why you’re not?

that's not a norwee post.

[Polar Bear Express]

Alright, I looked at Toog's post again. Here's my summary of Toog's points:

1.) Fluff
2.) More fluff
3.) OMGUS
4.) Fluff
5.) Scum theatre
6.) More OMGUS
7.) Fluff
8.) Fluff from Gloria
9.) Fluff
10.) OMGUS
11.) Fluff
12.) Scum theatre
13.) More fluff

So basically--no, there aren't any significant points in Toog's post.

Especially I don’t think I even fluffed anywhere.