PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Double the Trouble]

Even if the poe is all town?

The PoE of {Me, Ircher, Dunn, BM} which has 2 confirmed town 1 likely town and then a guiltied player

ya probably.

[Double the Trouble]

Can be faked easily

I mean yes it can but that doesn't mean that it is being faked.

[Dunnstral]

3 masons + vig is 4 confirmed town

We should have never trusted an investigative claim

[Dunnstral]

Even if the poe is all town?

The PoE of {Me, Ircher, Dunn, BM} which has 2 confirmed town 1 likely town and then a guiltied player

ya probably.

None of this was true at the time

[Double the Trouble]

this is what im talking about dunn

@Those on the Ircher/Trouble/BM wagons:

What's the best reason you want to elim the person you are voting for?

I'm good with either Ircher or BM currently. Trouble isn't really all that scummy to me. Ircher's fluff and IioA within the walls of quotes don't really strike me as productive town posting and are more of a post quota filling thing. I don't like that BM's current position that Pooky is responsible for town and our progression. While you/Pooky are worth regarding, you and your masonry are not infallible, and it's important that we disregard your advice from time to time, and also equally important that we don't hinge the entire game on your say so. It allows scum to weasel out of taking positions because they can attribute actions they take based on possible bad decisions by Pooky-management. Anyone who is willing to give you/Pooky all the leash you want and build cases or make plays based on your PoE will find ways to absolve themselves of wrong doing as well.

Outside of the current PoE, I'm not fully feeling the town Noraa vibes yet, and her posting has been far more distracting and super fluffy in general. Dr. Easy Bake isn't giving me any real town vibes and is a bit too jokey with scum jokes for me to take seriously as a town slot. Creature is being rather useless in general, which is his M.O. as scum more than town, but I'm not sold on the idea that FL would actually draft Creature, so he's a black horse pick.

That being said, in regards to Pooky managing us, I am not disillusioned to the fact that almost every game day is still going to come down to Pooky telling us what he wants and the vast majority of us are still going to work within his requests. I just don't like the idea in general since it will prevent certain naturally occurring associations from developing.

[Double the Trouble]

o wait u know that derp

[Dunnstral]

Huh.

I'm saying him being fine with the poe isn't a point in his favor if everyone in that poe turns out to be town.

[Double the Trouble]

oh
my arguement that he wasn't fine with it but rather how he responded to it made me think those posts are more likely just written by town

[Double the Trouble]

does it really matter at this minute?
I don't think so and if things go wrong it gets flipped regardless so LOL.

[Dunnstral]

So my town flip means toogeloo dies anyway?

[Double the Trouble]

I think vig pool should be
{DEB, Polar Bears, Spiffeh, Toogeloo}

If Dunn, Spiffeh, or Toogeloo all flip town look for bussers on the Bell wagon.
top suspects of bussing to me are Polar Bears, Solstice (due to the fact that Bell self hammered after they revoted which indicates to me that Bell was okay with dieing at that moment and the scumteam did everything that the wanted to do during that phase), DEB if Dunn flips town, and maaaaybe mastina.


Like ok
can I remind you people that at the start of D2 Bell was quite literally chainsawing Polar Bears?
Like what is going on there like hello?

pedit: Ya probably

[Toogeloo]

And my town flip means all hell will break loose.

[Double the Trouble]

if all 4 of those players are town then holy shit dude

[Toogeloo]

Like seriously...

[Toogeloo]

I kind of want to be vigged tonight if I don't blow up from SuperSaint. I need people to get past me.

Scum, of course want me around as long as possible.

[Double the Trouble]

ngl, I actually want Polar Bears to hammer Dunnstral

[Toogeloo]

I'm in a unique position where I know some of you people are just flat out wrong in your reads

[Double the Trouble]

for the record, what do you think is going on in this game like who are the scum manipulating the things

[Double the Trouble]

oh wait thats a really stupid question
you think its polar bears ydra and dunn

[Double the Trouble]

why do you actually think its ydrasse

[Toogeloo]

I'm trying to solve for 3 with bias on PBE being one of them, but since Day 2, Mastina has always been my pick for deep wolf. Ydrasse is my gut pick based off of Noraa interactions, for whom I'm biased as being scum, but as mentioned a few posts back, I could interchange mastina as the deep wolf pick.

Coincidentally, mastina would have been my first draft choice as either stump. I have a lot of experience with her, even back when mastina was mastin and even played during her "transition" period. There isn't a doubt in my mind FL would consider her as a draft pick.

I like mastina, and respect her game play.

Side note tangent...
Creature I've probably had the second most time with against everyone else on the list, and he's still doing exactly what I expect him to do, even as basically an IC.

[Double the Trouble]

ya ur reads are very interesting honestly I should think about them more and think about how they fit into the puzzle.

[Double the Trouble]

i don't think it changes much tho

[Toogeloo]

My day 1 town block was Spiffeh, Double Trouble, and mastina because I agreed with reads in those three slots. After Day 2, I felt a tonal shift in mastina that I didn't like, but conversely found myself liking MurderCat more, so I opted to drop mastina from my town reads and had MC as my replacement town block.

These are in my ISO too, though I declared my love for MC as town in Spanish, so it probably got glossed over.

[Polar Bear Express]

read her iso dude
it's townspewing

started off as meme read because of the townread for townread thing
she's had a rocky set of recent scumgames (her last 3) and is on record mentioning she dislikes playing scum a lot
so if Flavor Leaf did any research he's not picking her most of the time

in terms of content
it's the way she's interacting with pooky and pichu which makes me thing she's town
she's feeling no remorse or guilt in buddying us or promising she's town to us
there's a genuineness and SOULvibe to it which would be hard to fake as scum
also she fluffs less and it feels more stilted when she's scum

im sorry did you guys get lost on your way to the world championship of shitposting over at EpicMafia or something.

Didn’t you just finish telling me that you trusted Hectic’s reads?