Yellowstone

[DrippingGoofball]

WALLPOSTERS: PAY ATTENTION

Oh fuck that looks bad for me lmfaoo, I'm a N1 vigilante. I am not sure where the hell the mofia kill went. I would have assumed the scum was within Momrangal, Toogeloo, DGB so I shot within the trio. If it helps I also softed vigilante with my vig talks yesterday.

Now that is VERY interesting and I may have some relevant information.

[MathBlade]

I was rather hoping Math would explain his weird random infinity vote last thing on D1 yesterday before he hopped back to HW

@Math - you were kind enough to point out that I had quoted the wrong point when asking this, but I would love to actually hear your answer

I was trying to see who would defend Infinity if anyone.
Toog ruined it by pointing out my hypocrisy. I was hunting third scum mode there.
So I went back to Horse as reactions would be tainted.

[MathBlade]

WALLPOSTERS: PAY ATTENTION

Oh fuck that looks bad for me lmfaoo, I'm a N1 vigilante. I am not sure where the hell the mofia kill went. I would have assumed the scum was within Momrangal, Toogeloo, DGB so I shot within the trio. If it helps I also softed vigilante with my vig talks yesterday.

Now that is VERY interesting and I may have some relevant information.

I am. Just trying to get something to develop before that.

[DrippingGoofball]

Roger that

[Guillotina]

If there is nothing significant, why you sus her? Explain please.

Gut reads and overall tone. Nothing significant and nothing worth building a case on.

#212 is interesting though, what are you trying to achieve with this reads list?

Notes for my future self and my teammates, should I die, they can look into my ISO.

Can you please explain this G? How would you “gain” teammates?

Where did i say

GAIN TEAMMATES??

Future self and teammates? Future teammates. It’s right there?

No. My future self and my teammates. Who are the teammates who would need to search for my ISO should they ever need my legacy?

[MathBlade]

RE: Missing nightkill

We need a massclaim.

Kinda against this. I don’t think we do.

[MathBlade]

If there is nothing significant, why you sus her? Explain please.

Gut reads and overall tone. Nothing significant and nothing worth building a case on.

#212 is interesting though, what are you trying to achieve with this reads list?

Notes for my future self and my teammates, should I die, they can look into my ISO.

Can you please explain this G? How would you “gain” teammates?

Where did i say

GAIN TEAMMATES??

Future self and teammates? Future teammates. It’s right there?

No. My future self and my teammates. Who are the teammates who would need to search for my ISO should they ever need my legacy?

Yay speed reading at midnight fun!

I gotta work now but this is what happens when I speed post.

[MathBlade]

RE: Missing nightkill

We need a massclaim.

Kinda against this. I don’t think we do.

At least lemme reset my inner voice before demanding something so brash and likely dumb. I don’t think it will agree either.

[Marky Mark]

@Math

Ref your vote on infin - that makes more sense now

Ref perceived threats - the whole "egg on your face" thing came off to me as suggesting that you were threatening me if I pushed you. Infin, JV and DGB can attest that DKKoba (scum) took a similar angle against me (town) in the recent Bending mini

[Guillotina]

Also

FOS Math

for driving a wagon especially hard against what turned out to be a VT. I think a lot of us thought horse was scummy, but not with the massive levels of confidence that he had. As toog and I also pointed out D1, his late D1 posts setting out chain elims in the event that horse flipped town now look rather sus.

Math does look like he came to Momrangal rescue. I hope there is a cop and checked one of those two.

Momrangal mason claim seemed like she was joking at first but when she saw we were taking the claim seriously and asked to confirm it she said she never jokes about claims.
Math confirmed this and immediately took a proactive role in pushing her counterwagon which is what a town leader would do to save the mason slot from a misyeet. But the situation developed and a few flags rised.

1) We were not anywhere near the EoD, why did Math felt the need to defend her so much?
2) How did Math came to the conclusion that HW had to be the scum slot after claiming of just skimming through?
3) Why did he focus on HW only even after Momrangal's wagon dissipated. He never showed hesitation.
4) Why didnt he consider other counterwagons as options for elimination such a Toogeloo? Instead he proposed Infinity who was never consensus for elimination.
5) I worked hard to get townread by my fellow townies, so it is greatly appreciated when someone says that they townread me, Math did, but he never said why? Now is the time to tell me that Math.
6) Math pressuring others into voting HW, me included, whom he townreads feels a bit scummy.
7) Marky raised a great point when he questioned Math about he saying that he'd push people leaving HW wagon if she flipped town. Felt like setting up people who ever considered not voting for HW.
8) If Math is scum, he's been breadcrumbing association with me, when i called him out about it, he ignored it.


I'm guilty of pushing HW hard but i had my doubts. By the end of the day my gut was telling me she was town but my brain was telling she was scum. In one of my games i was so wrong about my gut suspect so i didnt want to make the same mistake here. I'm sorry Horsewoman.

1) Because derp quick hammers happen. I literally just got out of a mason game where scum tried unsuccessfully to do that when I replaced in as a mason. I generally have a good feel for masons and who their partners are especially here imho where the partner crumbed pretty well imho.
2) The VCA was very damning. I haven’t seen a stall for so long with almost no activity be town. The day was nearing apathy levels and I wanted to make sure Mom wasn’t elimmed. It felt even if I was wrong it was better.
3) That’s what you have to do on a scum wagon that’s stalled. You can’t allow scum to fish. Again I don’t regret the play I regret the end result.
4) I didn’t consider Toog because the VCA didn’t really line up that way. I also didn’t trust consensus due to the Mom wagon. It just didn’t feel right to wagon hunt and safer for Horsewoman.
5) I just get vibes when I work with people and my inner voice said you were town. At that speed level I go by gut and then reassess as night goes on. My inner voice agreed you’re probably town but if we don’t elim scum today to consider you as deep wolf tomorrow.
6) Again, so? I can take the heat. I did what I thought was best.
7) End of day felt SvT so pressure was warranted.
8) No I wasn’t. I assuredly wasn’t doing such with you. I don’t know how you got that idea.

5) why tomorrow? Why not today? What difference would it make from Day 2 to Day 3? It smells like yet another set up.

[Marky Mark]

I'm not experienced enough with PR mechanics to know whether massclaiming would be useful here, but happy to go with the majority consensus

[Guillotina]

If there is nothing significant, why you sus her? Explain please.

Gut reads and overall tone. Nothing significant and nothing worth building a case on.

#212 is interesting though, what are you trying to achieve with this reads list?

Notes for my future self and my teammates, should I die, they can look into my ISO.

Can you please explain this G? How would you “gain” teammates?

Where did i say

GAIN TEAMMATES??

Future self and teammates? Future teammates. It’s right there?

No. My future self and my teammates. Who are the teammates who would need to search for my ISO should they ever need my legacy?

Yay speed reading at midnight fun!

I gotta work now but this is what happens when I speed post.

We'll be here. I got a lot more questions for you.

[Guillotina]

I'm not experienced enough with PR mechanics to know whether massclaiming would be useful here, but happy to go with the majority consensus

This feels like ... “let's do the anti-town play but as long as I can have an excuse to do it”.

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: DGB

Can we talk about why a bunch of people (including DGB itself) were suddenly confident in horse-scum when DGB got a wagon?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Marky Mark

Just swapping back to gut part two.

Leave your questions G. Will respond as I can. I am incredibly nervous about something you said and I want time to formulate my thoughts on if it’s protown to even mention.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: DGB

Can we talk about why a bunch of people (including DGB itself) were suddenly confident in horse-scum when DGB got a wagon?

VOTE: Infinity

This also works.

[Marky Mark]

I'm not experienced enough with PR mechanics to know whether massclaiming would be useful here, but happy to go with the majority consensus

This feels like ... “let's do the anti-town play but as long as I can have an excuse to do it”.

Bro that's like the shade of the century I played a couple of games in 2014 and then started playing again couple months ago due to pandemic-induced boredom. I literally have never been in a massclaim and have no ideas of the tactical considerations that go into whether one ought to be made.

On the other hand, we have a bunched of experienced players in the plist so I kinda thought I'd listen to them

[MathBlade]

Either or is good.

Actually VOTE: Marky Mark

Gaaaah so many pings.

[AGamblingPig]

A massclaim on day 2? That seems scummy.

Is that scummy?

[Marky Mark]

Who is scum pig?

[Marky Mark]

What is your case on me Math?

[MathBlade]

A massclaim on day 2? That seems scummy.

Is that scummy?

For DGB no.
Anti town to explain
In general yes.

[AGamblingPig]

Who is scum pig?

DGB for suggesting a massclaim on day 2

[MathBlade]

What is your case on me Math?

Will type it up later. Can’t at work

[Marky Mark]

A massclaim on day 2? That seems scummy.

Is that scummy?

For DGB no.
Anti town to explain
In general yes.

This. Massclaim feels like a bad idea in general, but what I'm not experienced enough to know is whether it is worth it in our particular circumstances.

--pedit coolio