Mini Normal 2183 | Innocent Things | Game Over!

[nopointinactingup]

You waited for Noraa to get enough votes and turned on me or anyone else when you got the chance. That way you'll be seen as completely distanced from Noraa. There was no hyenas.

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

LNT

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HELLLLLLLLLLO, TOWNIES OF MINI NORMAL 2183!!!

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Welcome to the hottest talk show on Mafiascum.net,
Welcome to another episode of

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

It's me, everyone's favorite sociopath, your host,

FLAVOR!

The only leaf that brings the beef.

Andresvmb

- I like this current discussion with Andres. I've never had to read Andres before, but I don't know if he'd try to work with me as scum over discredit me, so I'm going to town read this here.

shellyc

- They were fluffy early, but they seemed to become a central point for discussion. They also town read me when scum reading me could have been beneficial.

JohnnyFarrar

- I called it out when they jumped on me earlier, but I think this is town. The unvote after was interesting, but yeah. I also don't know if they make that comment Andres called out as scum. It's a weird comment to make as scum.

TheFuzzylogic99

- Seems to be actually analyzing, at least with them talking about not sure how they feel on johnny and I. Feels like Fuzzy. I didn't hate them wondering about Titus and I either, it makes sense.

PlusJOYED

- I town read them Day 1 enough to put them in a town block, but then Day 2, I was the one pushing them the hardest, and they were scum. They also posted a lot more there as scum, so weak meta read from being inactive, but I think this is probably town. If they start scumming it up, they'll lose it, but I'd like to see what happens if they are scum and I put them as a higher town read again anyways.

Hank Spankems

- Hasn't done much, but I did like their greeting to me. It could be scum, not enough out there yet, but I feel if they were scum, they might be more interested. I'll keep this at the higher almost lean town of my neutrals.

Titus

- Hasn't really done much. Could be scum indicative, could be activity issues. I'll keep it null for now, but I'm probably more neutral scum.

Not_Mafia

- I was getting pinged by Not Mafia earlier, but I said recently in another game that I usually town read them when they are scum, but they seemed to post more than I'm used to on Day 1, and I was pinged earlier. I'm leaning scum, but there's not actually enough for me to wanna full send this yet.

geraintm

- He be shading, and does similar anti town rhetoric speals that unwnd does, except their's is actually incorrect here, and might have been advantageous to try and keep shade on me.

unwnd

- Xenoblade 2 they pushed me all Day 1 as town, but there it seemed like they had more actual reasons, here they're just pushing anti town blah, which fine, yeah, there's townies that do that, I expect them to be one of those, but scum use that kinda thing as a crutch "I would be calling it anti town regardless if I was town or not" kinda thing. I'll lean scum.

nopointinactingup

- If I recall correctly, they're the other one who pushed Dunn, so it's interesting they're both voting me now. Nopoint made the second vote, the one I was baiting, so this has a high chance of being caught scum for that reason alone.

Dunnstral

- Dunnstral brushed and deflected early game reads and looks to both try and pocket Shelly by hard town reading them, and also rescinded when speaking to another player, this was to Nopoint even.

In conclusion, vote Dunnstral, my theory is Nopoint/Dunnstral team, probably with one of my higher town reads.

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Will Not Mafia post another wall of Miltanks?

Will Dunnstral try to clap back against Andres and Flavor?

Will Unwnd and Geraint get off their anti town rhetoric and finally think at a higher level?!?

FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

Oh, nobody's read Johnny as town, huh?

Look, I also had Nopoint down low here too.

So everyone jumping on the Nopoint wagon when I pushed Noraa is scummy af, but I'm gonna ease on that, because gamestate is going in my favor. Doesn't mean I'm not still salty.

[Flavor Leaf]

You waited for Noraa to get enough votes and turned on me or anyone else when you got the chance. That way you'll be seen as completely distanced from Noraa. There was no hyenas.

I will hammer the hell out of Noraa.

In what world, do you ever think I would not try to kill Noraa?

If you're faded, she should be vigged.

If she's faded, you should be vigged.

I feel like I've made this clear.

[PlusJOYED]

I don't think noraa is scum
I've thought it over, I can't believe I missed FL claiming vig enabler. This is def a town FL move imo. Now this makes a lot more sense.

I'm the vig, I shot titus n1. No point in really hiding if the enabler is out there. I thought titus was scum trying to sidetrack with a flashwagon on town shelly, I was wrong. I'm guessing scum did too. I seriously believe there is a maf conspiracy with maf team framing shelly for titus kill; this is not scum!shelly's MO at all, and shelly/noraa is town.

I will be shooting johny tonight.

[nopointinactingup]

I don't like that, you have no skin in the game.

The deal is
When Nora's lynched and flip red, we vig you.
When I'm lynched and flip green, we vig you.
When Nora's lynched and flip green, we vig me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I thought it was Insaneoflex.

That might change some things.

[nopointinactingup]

I don't think noraa is scum
I've thought it over, I can't believe I missed FL claiming vig enabler. This is def a town FL move imo. Now this makes a lot more sense.

I'm the vig, I shot titus n1. No point in really hiding if the enabler is out there. I thought titus was scum trying to sidetrack with a flashwagon on town shelly, I was wrong. I'm guessing scum did too. I seriously believe there is a maf conspiracy with maf team framing shelly for titus kill; this is not scum!shelly's MO at all, and shelly/noraa is town.

I will be shooting johny tonight.

I don't understand why you're tunneling on the idea that that flash wagon was scummy. Every single alternative wagon (not_maf and dunn) was town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I see. Don't really buy it, but okay.

Having seen FL's claim, I'll just say I have reason to believe it's true.

Damn, I thought this was a Vig soft.

It's why he's been so high on my town reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

this is not scum!shelly's MO at all

I feel it's insanely possible for Shelly to change playstyle specifically because going up against me.

They stated they read my guide multiple times, and has used it, so ScumShelly would have played a different game than normal here based on the dynamic we had.

However, I did town read Shelly, but they were hard hard town reading me, and it felt weird.

[Insanoflex]

I'll just fullclaim here and now since everyone's pretty much outed: My role's 1-shot loyal bodyguard. Yes, a complete garbage role that is nearly identical to ABR's garbage fakeclaim in that other game. Loyal modifier on a BG only makes sense if a vig exists in a setup, so I believed the enabler claim.

[Noraa]

Noraa
help me flip NoPoint today.......

There is No point in not flipping NoPoint today

FTR I'm completely fine with this.

AHA so many useless posts I see. Ignore ignore

Particularly, I feel FL disappearing off the map as soon as pressure disappears off him is scummy. Scum vig-enabler is a very possible reality

I liked the way you were headed until this. Why would a town cop enabler mean a scum vig enabler? This feels very specific and a bit tmi

I didn't like the way FL claimed vig enabler out of nowhere when there's barely any votes on that. Why is it specific??

so nopoint calls FL scummy for trying to die Dunn to Titus, and then...proceeds to try to tie FL and Dunn together.

Not ruling something out is not tieing them together, don't like your misrepresentation here.

Flavor is still a posiibility but a mafia vig enabler seems like an odd role,,,but anything is possible

I have specific reasons to think FL is 80% scum if his claim is true here.

Scum main objective is to

lunch

.....

And NopointScum was pushing me while ShellyScum was towning me.

That's a classic hyena.

Wow, just wow

@FL: you're condescending af and I don't think attacking other people personally like this should be allowed in the thread
@Nora: just ignore him

Yeah Nora is doing pretty much what I'd expect scum in her position to do. There's no way she can really think Johnny is scum considering Johnny plays entirely differently in the last game we were in.

why do people think there is a vig? I don't understand

FL claimed Vig enabler.
I think he is really vig enabler.
I also think he's scum.
The stuff with Nora is scum theatre.

I have an inno on Johnny (not a cop inno but I'm not willing to say what it is unless Johnny is ok with it). If you lynch me, you'd better not lynch Johnny tomorrow.

Uhhhhhhhh LOL. You think Flavor/Noraa is SvS? You must be insane or something. This is literally like one thousand million percent impossible.

The fact that no one in this entire thread except me seems to think Johnny is town should scream town already but what the hell do I know

No.

@FL: you're condescending af and I don't think attacking other people personally like this should be allowed in the thread

@Nora: just ignore him

Yeah Nora is doing pretty much what I'd expect scum in her position to do. There's no way she can really think Johnny is scum considering Johnny plays entirely differently in the last game we were in.

This is a weird line to say to someone you think is putting on an act?

+1

Nopoint's reads and progression on me all game have been fake.

I'm going to bring it all the way back to early Day 1.

He shaded Dunnstral poorly, as did I.

Then I played my bait, and Nopoint's literally the player that got caught from my bait earlier.

I guarantee you that Nopoint is scum, and I have been saying Nopoint scum since Day 1.

I have been pushing Nopoint as my top 2 scumreads all day, and actually, I'm easing up on Unwnd a bit because of Noraa/Nopoint.

Nopoint disappeared from the game when Noraa and I were fighting, yet Plusjoyed isn't talking about that.

This turn makes perfect sense btw if Noraa was scum with FL

Vote: Noraa

Uh no.

You waited for Noraa to get enough votes and turned on me or anyone else when you got the chance. That way you'll be seen as completely distanced from Noraa. There was no hyenas.

Pfft. He actually explained this part(surprisingly enough) and this is misrep.

I don't think noraa is scum
I've thought it over, I can't believe I missed FL claiming vig enabler. This is def a town FL move imo. Now this makes a lot more sense.

I'm theVOTE: vig, I shot titus n1. No point in really hiding if the enabler is out there. I thought titus was scum trying to sidetrack with a flashwagon on town shelly, I was wrong. I'm guessing scum did too. I seriously believe there is a maf conspiracy with maf team framing shelly for titus kill; this is not scum!shelly's MO at all, and shelly/noraa is town.

I will be shooting johny tonight.

aw Johnny but ok

I don't like that, you have no skin in the game.

The deal is
When Nora's lynched and flip red, we vig you.
When I'm lynched and flip green, we vig you.
When Nora's lynched and flip green, we vig me.

.........VOTE: Nopo

[nopointinactingup]

Having dinner, going to come back later tonight

[Flavor Leaf]

I'll just fullclaim here and now since everyone's pretty much outed: My role's 1-shot loyal bodyguard. Yes, a complete garbage role that is nearly identical to ABR's garbage fakeclaim in that other game. Loyal modifier on a BG only makes sense if a vig exists in a setup, so I believed the enabler claim.

This makes sense, could be a scum role like a "1shot bp bg", but I like it still.

[Flavor Leaf]

1-shot Loyal BG
Vig Enabler
Cop Enabler
Vigilante
Cop

yeah, that looks fine.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Noraa's bussing, but I'll take the Nopoint fade.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Insano counterclaims whatever it was that Nopoint was softing too.

[PlusJOYED]

Where I'll probably just shoot johny, I'm open to suggestions if a lot of my TRs prefer another target. I think FL/Noraa is TvT that has gotten out of hand due to player friction.

[PlusJOYED]

1-shot Loyal BG
Vig Enabler
Cop Enabler
Vigilante
Cop

yeah, that looks fine.

agreed. I think scum would have aome sort of investigative also

[Flavor Leaf]

@Dunnstral - Make the call.

[PlusJOYED]

I'm at a bit of a loss. I was/am sus of people who tried to flashwagon at the last minute. I'm sorry I was absent (I feel better now) but seriously why would you try a new wagon that has a low chance of taking off when presense is low? To me that screams trying to get a nolim d1 which is rough for us.

Noraa is playing a political game. Please just vote her.

It's effecting my ability to play this game.

apologies but I think noraa is town. but I would like to townblock with
you, fate seems to pushing that way

these were my softs, I explicitly avoided softing d1

[Insanoflex]

nopoint is claiming some kind of clear on johnny, not sure what it is. I don't think geraintm's a bad shot, maybe fuzzy. I guess I need to give andres a third look but I felt he was town on my first two reads.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ok i have a claim as well but I want nopo to claim first and then let me claim second.

[Flavor Leaf]

I brought up vigging Unwnd Day 1.

I think you're wrong about Noraa, and I think they're vote is a bus.

Nopoint saved Noraa here too, but they essentially gave their life.

If Nopoint flips town, please vig Noraa.

[PlusJOYED]

despite andres less activity I still TR him
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TRs I'm taking vig suggestions from (unordered)
insano
noraa
dunn
FL
andres

notmafia has been so out of it I'd rather not let them aim no offense.

[PlusJOYED]

I brought up vigging Unwnd Day 1.

I can work with that.