Yellowstone

[JacksonVirgo]

Was town before, but stopped being towny towards the end of the day which worries me.

What was not Townie by the end of the day?

His aggression and sorting from earlier in the day turned into a very forgettable presence

. It felt like he was

saying stuff just to say it

. The progression on horse, from thinking she said some towny stuff to going back to scumreading her didn’t feel

particularly genuine

. The response to flea’s case felt...

not as flippant as I expected

. The case was bad enough imo that I think most would be really frustrated by it as town and

guillo instead seemed to give more validity to the case than it had

.

Ok! I'm at home, let's do this!

1) I was the second highest poster on D1 (i think) where I scumhunted and push the slots that seemed the most suspicious to me. I was very far from being a forgettable presence!
2) I never say stuff just to say it as either alignment, I was split between my logical side scum reading Horsewoman and my heart side townreading her and that manifested in my hesitation to cast a final vote on her in various occasions. I ended up casting it on her because in my opinion she failed to town up, I don't know the reasons she had, she did say she was going through a mental breakdown (paraphrase) but I thought it was AtE. If I would have yeeted Tangeloo instead of Horsewoman if such wagon was possible but we all know that would have been a misyeet as well.
3) Flea's long wall post was ill intended and it was obvious that they were trying to provoke me, I tried to keep it respectful but I'm no goddamn saint, it pissed me off and I acted reacted accordingly. You say it was not as flippant as you expected and I say,

what do you know about me to have expectations about my behavior as a person?

And since when being allegedly disrespectful to someone is alignment indicative?
4) We all (except mafia) are trying scum hunt to solve the game to win. To me, everyone has validity, their opinions matter whether they are wrong or right, bad or good, because those inputs will help us solve the game. So I don't like it when you say that I seemed to give more validity to Flea's case than it had, it was valid for me and I had to address it. How is that bad eh?

1. Post count means nothing, at all. And just because you have a high post count doesn’t mean your posts hold any weight in people’s heads, thus can be forgettable.

2. That was a very complicated way to say you were fence sitting on them and chose they were more likely scum than town.

3. No comments

4. The first sentence screams LAMIST but is probably NAI.

[JacksonVirgo]

I want a claim from Mark.

Then thoughts on who he thinks should go next and why. I'll either agree, or pick the next target myself

We shouldn’t be mass-claiming as it doesn’t benefit Town

The snowball has already started rolling.


We have too much information out in the open for scum to use, but not enough for town to utilize effectively

Such as what? Two flipped towns, an unconfirmed mason claim and a vigi claim?

The town protective role here is more important than those claims. He/she saved a life and in exchange her life must be protected.

Did you just scum slip with “her”

[Momrangal]

Such as what? Two flipped towns, an unconfirmed mason claim and a vigi claim?

If you can't see what I see, then it's probably best kept that way

[Guillotina]

It's also a mass claim that is controlled, scum can't get their hands on the order

Bullshit. The way I see, scum could be controlling it right now. We are not giving you shit.

Even if you were a mason, the protection role is more important than you.

[Flea The Magician]

I still disagree. and I'm loving guillo's defence of himself here.

[Infinity 324]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

[Guillotina]

I want a claim from Mark.

Then thoughts on who he thinks should go next and why. I'll either agree, or pick the next target myself

We shouldn’t be mass-claiming as it doesn’t benefit Town

The snowball has already started rolling.


We have too much information out in the open for scum to use, but not enough for town to utilize effectively

Such as what? Two flipped towns, an unconfirmed mason claim and a vigi claim?

The town protective role here is more important than those claims. He/she saved a life and in exchange her life must be protected.

Did you just scum slip with “her”

No? I did say he/she, I forgot to write his/her in the rush of things.

[Momrangal]

If we're gonna massclaim, do we want to wait to out the protective? That at least makes it harder for scum to pick off PRs.

If the protective protected the Mason, that player should claim VT.

Covered

[Momrangal]

In case it was missed

[Noraa]

Im not suspicious of you. My reason to TR you is gone and now you are a null.

What reason was that? Elaborate please.

read the game.

[MathBlade]

I still disagree. and I'm loving guillo's defence of himself here.

I hate it.

G is acting like they know more than everyone else.
Towns win when they cooperate with obv/confTown.

G isn’t building a town block it looks like they had a set plan in mind from day one and there are very few claims I would even consider realistic from G. I just think they’re full of shit. Their day play doesn’t sync with their actions here.

[JacksonVirgo]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

That’s counter intuitive, the reason we’re massclaiming is to find the missing kill. If protective doesn’t claim what’s thenpoint

[Noraa]

If we're gonna massclaim, do we want to wait to out the protective? That at least makes it harder for scum to pick off PRs.

its day two. STOP. We are NOT massclaiming.

[Guillotina]

Was town before, but stopped being towny towards the end of the day which worries me.

What was not Townie by the end of the day?

His aggression and sorting from earlier in the day turned into a very forgettable presence

. It felt like he was

saying stuff just to say it

. The progression on horse, from thinking she said some towny stuff to going back to scumreading her didn’t feel

particularly genuine

. The response to flea’s case felt...

not as flippant as I expected

. The case was bad enough imo that I think most would be really frustrated by it as town and

guillo instead seemed to give more validity to the case than it had

.

Ok! I'm at home, let's do this!

1) I was the second highest poster on D1 (i think) where I scumhunted and push the slots that seemed the most suspicious to me. I was very far from being a forgettable presence!
2) I never say stuff just to say it as either alignment, I was split between my logical side scum reading Horsewoman and my heart side townreading her and that manifested in my hesitation to cast a final vote on her in various occasions. I ended up casting it on her because in my opinion she failed to town up, I don't know the reasons she had, she did say she was going through a mental breakdown (paraphrase) but I thought it was AtE. If I would have yeeted Tangeloo instead of Horsewoman if such wagon was possible but we all know that would have been a misyeet as well.
3) Flea's long wall post was ill intended and it was obvious that they were trying to provoke me, I tried to keep it respectful but I'm no goddamn saint, it pissed me off and I acted reacted accordingly. You say it was not as flippant as you expected and I say,

what do you know about me to have expectations about my behavior as a person?

And since when being allegedly disrespectful to someone is alignment indicative?
4) We all (except mafia) are trying scum hunt to solve the game to win. To me, everyone has validity, their opinions matter whether they are wrong or right, bad or good, because those inputs will help us solve the game. So I don't like it when you say that I seemed to give more validity to Flea's case than it had, it was valid for me and I had to address it. How is that bad eh?

1. Post count means nothing, at all. And just because you have a high post count doesn’t mean your posts hold any weight in people’s heads, thus can be forgettable.

2. That was a very complicated way to say you were fence sitting on them and chose they were more likely scum than town.

3. No comments

4. The first sentence screams LAMIST but is probably NAI.

1) I doubt my contributions were ignored.
2) What's fence sitting?
3) Why?
4) What first sentence? "Ok! I'm at home, let's do this!" ? It's NAI.

[MathBlade]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

That’s counter intuitive, the reason we’re massclaiming is to find the missing kill. If protective doesn’t claim what’s thenpoint

That’s not why we’re mass claiming. Look at the subtext

[MathBlade]

If we're gonna massclaim, do we want to wait to out the protective? That at least makes it harder for scum to pick off PRs.

its day two. STOP. We are NOT massclaiming.

That’s not what mom said.

Reread it again.

[Noraa]

Also can we not bring mental disorders into this as an attack, much thanks

Agree. guillo that was pretty offensive.

[MathBlade]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

That’s counter intuitive, the reason we’re massclaiming is to find the missing kill. If protective doesn’t claim what’s thenpoint

That’s not why we’re mass claiming. Look at the subtext

And to be fair it’s not a mass claim.

[JacksonVirgo]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

I’m not going to follow suit with bad plays by anyone, even pseudo confirmed town

Can someone explain why we are mass claiming then

[Noraa]

VOTE: Guillotina

I want a claim and I'm getting it one way or another

We already have more information out than is typical for a day two.

We have a flipped townie,
Claimed townie
Claimed mason
And a claimed VT

We have people claiming information and we have a missing kill.

Instead of having town wifoms itself into oblivion, were going to force scum to play their hand and open up the game

hm ok that seems ok?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Guillotina

I want a claim and I'm getting it one way or another

We already have more information out than is typical for a day two.

We have a flipped townie,
Claimed townie
Claimed mason
And a claimed VT

We have people claiming information and we have a missing kill.

Instead of having town wifoms itself into oblivion, were going to force scum to play their hand and open up the game

This is why we are doing mom controlled claiming

[Noraa]

Ok I'm caught up. Mom not dying night 1 is just weird. I think I definitely would like the mason buddy to confirm. I don't have a read on mom and them not dying last night is really weird.

[Guillotina]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

That’s counter intuitive, the reason we’re massclaiming is to find the missing kill. If protective doesn’t claim what’s thenpoint

Exactly! As far as I know, Masons are just VTs that share a room, so how do you expect to figure out the missing kill without the protective claim?

[MathBlade]

Guillo, we’re literally telling the protective not to claim. Can we just listen to the mason?

That’s counter intuitive, the reason we’re massclaiming is to find the missing kill. If protective doesn’t claim what’s thenpoint

Exactly! As far as I know, Masons are just VTs that share a room, so how do you expect to figure out the missing kill without the protective claim?

Theme game. Assuming makes an ass of you and me.

It’s possible mom has a pr in addition. It’s not worth pursuing atm though.

[MathBlade]

Ok I'm caught up. Mom not dying night 1 is just weird. I think I definitely would like the mason buddy to confirm. I don't have a read on mom and them not dying last night is really weird.

It’s really not.
Scum shot mom and mom was protected or scum shot outside of mom thinking she’d be protected and this other person got protected instead.