TENET - Game Over

[Brian Skies]

Who all has reads of firebringer?

-E

I think he's town. But I always do.

[Brian Skies]

You still think A50 is a PR even though he's fine getting turnstiled Brian?

Idr seeing an A50 post this day phase. Did I miss this?

[Titus]

@LLD

1) FL saccing himself meant Pooky didn't need to go that hard

-- FL didn't sacc himself until after Pooky's push
2) Pooky going that hard is weird on its own cause he probably gets the FL elimination either way

- Doubt it. There was major pushback from following Pooky scum. He had to appear townie enough to shread the baggage from being over here.

3) This thread was approaching a Midwaybear/Skitter elimination yesterday, so if Pooky is scum, why derail a vote for another vote?

Midway was never in danger.

Pooky/skitter should still be limmed.

[Annie Edison]

Brian did I miss the important thing you’d wanted to share yesterday

[Dunnstral]

Like maybe we can start with an easy one. Who wants to convince me fire/skitter is literally never s/s?

-E

This is like a 25 person game or something, I'd be more surprised if we didn't have a cop

[Titus]

Cop and watcher can coexist, particularly if SS is town.

[Dunnstral]

Is SS claiming a role too?

[zMuffinMan]

who do you think is scum again, brian?

[Brian Skies]

Brian did I miss the important thing you’d wanted to share yesterday

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Is there a quote of mine you're referencing?

[Titus]

Is SS claiming a role too?

Nope. It's my moonlogic.

[Brian Skies]

I would prefer the other thread resolved the Skitter thing themselves. I don't want their scumreads sent over here because honestly, I only read their thread when I feel like I'm missing something important. And I can't guarantee I will eliminate their scumreads.

Also, they haven't done anything with Pisskop after we sent him over, and I got scumpings from his posts.

[Annie Edison]

I just feel like you had something important you wanted to wait until you got off today for

I could be misremembering

[Titus]

They're protecting their own and not bussing.

[Brian Skies]

No, I just didn't want you guys to do something hasty just because Deacon or Spiffeh or whoever was flaunting some sort of 'Imperium said to do this' thing.

Also, Spiffeh has this weird fascination with A50 and I can't tell if it's him being genuine or scum-Spiffeh smelling a potential PR and trying to rolefish it out and/or eliminating it.

[Titus]

@LLD, You can look at pisskop elim too.

Who do you think we should eliminate?

[Brian Skies]

who do you think is scum again, brian?

Don't ask me questions you already know the answer to just because it suits you.

[Brian Skies]

I'm also curious about HP's strange fascination of keeping me alive as if I care about that.

Like, I don't think I'm that important or that widely townread, so ?

[Titus]

Can someone copy my latest posts to the other thread?

[Brian Skies]

Also not a fan of people saying Flavor was obvtown and Pooky should be obvscum for that push.

Flavor Leaf concluded I was some sort of scum mastermind that had Pooky sent over there to 'deal with him.' Even though neither Pooky or me wanted him turnstiled. We also already explained to him that we were trying to yeet all the scum out of our thread when he HAMMERED THE ANNIE TURNSTILE to get a bunch of confirmed townies in our thread, so him claiming I was scummy for trying to remove all the scum from one thread to load the other with scum was scummy af.

[zMuffinMan]

i wouldn't ask if i knew the answer

that's a lie but in this case it's trueish

guessing gypyx and uh... dunno who else you think is scum

[Annie Edison]

I don’t think he was obvtown but I think he’s a prime example of how weird the wagons over there have been

[Annie Edison]

Ffery pls rephrase?

I think you’re saying the threads are more concerned with infighting than figuring out why flavors wagon was so bad?

[Bell]

I'm also curious about HP's strange fascination of keeping me alive as if I care about that.

Like, I don't think I'm that important or that widely townread, so ?

I'm carefully skirting across because of Flavor FOS at you.
I don't want to clear you just for having a contrarian viewpoint and having a role and using it in a way that's town aligned. Even though they end up being town more than not. I need a better read on you to be frank.

[Brian Skies]

i wouldn't ask if i knew the answer

that's a lie but in this case it's trueish

guessing gypyx and uh... dunno who else you think is scum

I'd be lying if I said I had any hard scumreads.

I still don't agree with Nacho's townread on Gypyx and would have preferred at least a turnstile of that slot yesterday over Pooky. Like, 354 is sketchy because he only considers t/s and not t/t, and I don't really know why that is. But I guess the wording from unwnd makes that unclear. I don't really think anything he's done this game is necessarily town-motivated and I still think he was trying to backpedal from the entire 'it totally wasn't excitement toward Notty's wild Separated Scum PT theory.' I also got a different impression of him saying he wanted to try a different playstyle early on, and didn't like that he would try to withhold from sharing his reads (I feel like he could just be looking for an excuse to avoid transparency as scum here).

I kind of liked your suspicion on the Titus slot early on right after she replaced in and she accused you of being all setup spec. But I feel like you're definitely capable of a lot more if you're town. And I honestly can't tell what your reads are this game or if you're even trying to sort players. Literally, the only reason I haven't hard-pushed you at this point is because I'm convinced I'm a lunatic in thinking that me noticing two frozen muffins in the back of my freezer is a sign that you're actually town this game (there were other conclusions I drew from this and had to walk away from the game a bit because I'm literally convinced I'm a lunatic).

HP may or may not be hardbuddying me. Granted, I guess I can kind of see them thinking my role is somewhat important. And although I didn't like them wanting Gamma turnstiled over here at the beginning of the day, I guess if they were partners together, they'd have had a better handle of Gamma's claim.

[Bell]

I do think we should go over A50 based on play and not role.
As he is pinging me for play and I totally missed any crumbs he may have dropped.
I also don't think his comparison is accurate and ad hominem and attacking weak points is just...something scum me would do.
Just because I was wrong about Shelly doesn't mean I'm wrong about you. More like than not I need to be putting more care and consideration into each of my reads.

I genuinely still feel lost about the shellyc flip, I don't think she made a single post that didn't have wording that I've seen before. In one way or another. I thought she differed more than that on her town/scum play, but apparently not. I've made a terrible mistake and a terrible read and that sucks.