TENET - Game Over

Brian Skies · Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:17 pm

Like I said, if you want to push him and he ends up having to claim (or get eliminated for who knows what reason), I'm not going to stop you.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:19 pm

Because if I'm wrong I'd like to know about it, and if you are town and think I'm wrong you should be happy to explain it!

And MAYBE this has more to do with my read on you than my read on A50?!?!?!?!

zMuffinMan · Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:19 pm

"dont ask questions you already know the answer to"

though actually ill prob just chuck out my old reads and start from scratch and see where i get to maybe when i have time

1 more day of work after today before i get time off-road

zMuffinMan · Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:21 pm

dunno why that autocorrected to offroad

Brian Skies · Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:21 pm

In post 3426, Spiffeh wrote:Because if I'm wrong I'd like to know about it, and if you are town and think I'm wrong you should be happy to explain it!

And MAYBE this has more to do with my read on you than my read on A50?!?!?!?!

I mean, we have two diametrically opposed reads on the same slot.

Wouldn't that mean that he should come in and make himself readable on his own?

I don't really feel like defending a slot that most people are convinced I'm wrong on.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm

Brian I would like a justification for your A50 town read because my next lowest read in this thread is Muffin who is currently sitting at "null but if I think really hard about it he's probably town anyway" and if we turnstile A50 I'm left with no one I want to lim over here

Although you're slowly becoming a contender with your CURRENT BEHAVIOR

I don't really get why you're not cooperating it takes like one-two sentences to satisfy me I'm a nice guy

Brian Skies · Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:30 pm

In post 3430, Spiffeh wrote:Although you're slowly becoming a contender with your CURRENT BEHAVIOR

Is this a threat?

Maybe the mighty mouse wizard should just eliminate me. Because if you think I'm just going to cooperate with you because the IC asked for you to be purple-roomed, you're dead wrong.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:30 pm

In post 4580, Deacon Blues wrote:I thought this game looked more like the FlyingScumsman game than the Titus vs Alisae game.

I think it's important to note that I was a mason in Titus vs. Alisae and intentionally being useless in the thread to fly under the radar (P.S. it didn't work I was killed N1 anyway)

Brian Skies · Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm

I'm townreading him based on what I think he's softing and the way he's handling his crumbing.

If you think he's scum, then push him. I don't think he's town outside of that.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:33 pm

Who do you think we should lim instead?

Brian Skies · Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm

The same person I tried to yeet out of our thread yesterday. But you all think he's town.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm

I don't even remember who that is lol

Brian Skies · Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:37 pm

Spiffeh · Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:38 pm

Oh yeah I do think he's town

zMuffinMan · Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:40 pm

why's he town?

Brian Skies · Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:41 pm

In post 4580, Deacon Blues wrote:Tammy reiterated Nacho's reasons for leantown zMuffin - that he'd want to show "them" how how it's done. Not sure who "them" was, town or scum. maybe the entire MS player base? But, if pooky/pisskop/shellyc/a50 are all town then all bets off regarding zmuffin town.

So, funny thing.

The only slots remaining in this thread from the players mentioned here are Muffin and A50.

What is the relationship between Muffin's alignment and all of these players being town?

Also, what were the collective reads on A50 from the Purple Room last night?

Spiffeh · Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:41 pm

I liked his post explain his scum read on Titus

Not in the sense that I agree with it, but I think he believes it

Spiffeh · Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:43 pm

Like I think some of his posts are awkward but I feel those more likely come from inexperience than a red role PM

Titus · Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:43 pm

In post 3441, Spiffeh wrote:I liked his post explain his scum read on Titus

Not in the sense that I agree with it, but I think he believes it

I agree with this.

Spiffeh · Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:45 pm

Titus what's your read on Brian?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:47 pm

there's no relationship between me and those players outside of the fact that he likely thinks i wasnt busing and he has stronger town reads elsewhere meaning poe

he thinks id be playing more of a manipulation game as scum (probably true) but that theory gets thrown out if all ive done is push town (which i guess is possible but i doubt it. and if all 4 of those names are town, then this game is basically over already so doesn't really matter at that point)

Brian Skies · Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:47 pm

In post 4581, Dandelion Wine wrote:Quick check in.

I think at this point pretty much the entire setup is crumbed or claimed :/

I wonder if we should just go ahead and talk about the elephant-investigative overloads in the room.

I feel like A50 is enough a point of contention here that we may as well just force him to claim and decide where to go from there.

Most people want him eliminated anyway and I don't think their reads will go anywhere unless that slot gets sorted first.

Titus · Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 3444, Spiffeh wrote:Titus what's your read on Brian?

I feel Brian is tonally town but may be scum mechanically

Titus · Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 pm

Definitely not A CC and no desire to eliminate Brian atm

Titus · Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 4580, Deacon Blues wrote:
NACHO, TAMMY NOTES FROM THE NIGHT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD

PART 1 - THE FORWARDS THREAD

Nacho and Tammy didn't post their own reads list in the neighborhood. Tammy, however posted that Cabd's color-coded reads list for the forwards thread was also what they were thinking about the players. I'm going to paraphrase and simplify Cabd's list in this post. I'm sure he'll correct me if I stray too far. He didn't try to sort within each grouping, but the groups are in order from most town to most scum.

First group

Bell
Imperium (Nachomomma8/Tammy)
Annie Edison (notscience/The Bulge)

Second group

Dunnstral
Titus
Gypyx

Third group

Spiffeh
Hench Princesses
Brian Skies
zMuffinMan

Fourth group

Almost50

He had a fifth group, but it was empty.

Before this reads list was written up, I did a meta dive on Spiffeh's recent games. His only scumgame in the last year was a AITP variant, which I think was useless for meta purposes. Based on the two town games I looked at, I thought this game looked more like the FlyingScumsman game than the Titus vs Alisae game.

Cabd agreed with that, and that led to some discussion about whether Spiffeh belonged in the 2nd tier.

Other comments of note about Forwards players

Nacho had A50 in the 3rd group.

Nacho wanted to dive into the reasons that HP didn't explain their FL townread more and why they didn't try harder to save him.

Tammy noted that Brian Skies was townreading pooky but didn't fight much against him being turnstiled.

Nacho bought Gypyx's explaination for his playstyle change.

Tammy reiterated Nacho's reasons for leantown zMuffin - that he'd want to show "them" how how it's done. Not sure who "them" was, town or scum. maybe the entire MS player base? But, if pooky/pisskop/shellyc/a50 are all town then all bets off regarding zmuffin town.

Tammy townread Titus partly because of her play and partly because she wanted to read the backwards thread in detail.

Nacho expressed more unsureness about Spiffeh but felt that Titus's end of day 1 play would never happen that way if she were scum.

SHIP IT PLEASE!