revO emaG - TENET

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R A R S E N I C

[GFITAC]

@bork pls don’t send skitter tia

Yeah I think this is a bad idea. If we have to send a PR claim today, I'd rather it were superbowl, even though I think sending him to the purple room will work out better for both timestreams.

not-b

This is news to me. What did superb claim?
-BCCorp

[Dandelion Wine]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R A R S E N I C

<3

Ffery, did you want me to effort-paraphrase this thread's wall?

[Firebringer]

can we just eliminate anyone who talks in riddles.

[Firebringer]

Okay Brian I bet i know how to convince u.

Big announcement:
I am retracting my cop claim.

I forgot you claimed cop, tbh.

You're still not invited to the Forwards thread.

im not civilized for that thread anyways

[petapan]

we should definitely eliminate the riddler

[Lady Lambdadelta]

we should definitely eliminate the riddler

Crypto?

[GFITAC]

And ftr I don't think elimming 2 from our side is necessarily a good idea, but iEVEN IN THAT INSTANCE TURNSTYLING SKITTLE IS GREAT. We can both elim normally, you can elim + turnstyle to try your dumb get all scum out of 1 thread before D2 strat, and town skittle gets night actions instead of wasting away over here doing nothing.

The ONLY reason to not turnstyle skittle is if you're afraid of her becoming a scum pr on the other side or running train on your thread, which you can easily fix by LIMMING HER IF YOU THINK SHE IS SCUM!

And once again you discount the idea that OUR SIDE could be the ones closer to the stupid D2 no scum strat, and by sending skittle over we could possibly acheive this. If you think this side has more scum, then WHY ARE WE LETTING YOU ELIM FROM A SMALLER POE? YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TURNSTYLE SO YOU HAVE 0 CHANCE OF ICing THE WHOLE SIDE ANYWAYS.

Even if we take your 0% chance likely trash strategy into account, your logic makes absolutely no sense!

I see no flaw in this post. The plan could still work but these criticisms are all valid imo.
-BCCorp

[petapan]

we should definitely eliminate the riddler

Crypto?

he'd be very annoyed you compared him to riddler

[Deacon Blues]

Fuck there's more from Tammy on the Forwards Neighborhood. I think this is the last one.

Tammy mentioned that Pooky floated an idea that even if the thread being cleared of scum wasn't announced, that a no-kill would mean everyone in the forwards thread is town. It pinged and she worried that scum could be setting up to no kill and then coast to endgame like the whole thread was ICs.

[GFITAC]

Like just think about this: If you were sucm would you EVER let yourself be in a position where you create a half game full of ICs? It's so ridiculously dumb to think that town shooting in the dark is going to outwit the scumteam with PTs, mech info, etc. Best case scenario we're wasting turnstyles that can create PRs worst case we're shooting ourselves in the foot.


THERE IS NO UNIVERSE WHERE THE GOAL OF THIS PLAN IS ACHIEVED

It makes a whole bunch of sense for SCUM to push this plan because they can prevent PRs from being created & manipulate numbers on both sides if they choose. Just think about this from a scum perspective for 5 seconds and you will realize how royally idiotic this plan is

I don’t think scum have the social capital to do that and get away with it.
Who do you think is scum pushing that plan?
-BCCorp

[Lady Lambdadelta]

we should definitely eliminate the riddler

Crypto?

he'd be very annoyed you compared him to riddler

good

[GFITAC]

. The amount of thrashing in our thread suggests lots of TVT, while the other thread is a nice haven for scum to lurk and avoid conflict.

Hey that's what i said!

I’m beginning to feel like there’s more town here than I did when I started this dayphase, but I also feel like there are a good amount of obvtown in the forwards thread? Who are the scum in the townblock there?
-BCCorp

[petapan]

fair tbh

[GFITAC]

I thought he was a red flip - I was wrong.

I've been more lax in general in recent games and I've found that playstyle to be wholly unsatisfying and kind of frustrating?

Driving the wagon on FL made me feel more alive and happy.

It would've been really really sweet if he flipped red but he did not.

How are you not coasting rn?
-BCCorp

[Deacon Blues]

NACHO, TAMMY NOTES FROM THE NIGHT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD

PART 2 - THE REVERSE THREAD

Nacho posted a list of his confident townreads in the reverse thread.

Superbowl9
Petapan
Deacon Blues
Dandelion Wine
Firebringer
Tenet/upside down sinkhole

I don't think these were in any particular order.

Nacho said that midway almost made the cut on the strength of peta's day 1 read, but felt he needed more scrutiny

Nacho would have wanted to elim skitter30 in the reverse timeline day 1. He told us we need to calm some of you down and get 'er done.

Nacho doesn't think superbowl is scum (this is a theme...)

Tammy expressed concerns that Dandelions didn't fight the FL elim. Cabd explained the toddler-needs-dad thing going on at the time.

Tammy thought LLD's posts felt performative and expressed that she was not townreading LLD at all. She expressed concern that Deacon-ffery townread LLD so easily based on her interactions with superbowl. She said that LLD putting a vote on pooky while reacting in a "lolwtf" over flavor getting buried felt way off. She mentioned that Nacho had pointed out that she'd picked out several posts on day 1 that ffery would never make as scum, though.

Tammy thought that in a Dandelion/LLD/pooky scum world, the whole push was planned and that at least one of those three would have had a better reaction to what was going on. She thought that Cabd and Flavor Leaf would have had a different set of interactions given how closely they worked together in the Xeno game. She agreed he was being annoying as hell and wasn't easy to work with. She went on to say that she felt pooky went from refusing to give the forwards thread much interactions or reads or anything (basically an activity level of 10 mph, to hammering his turnstile, and going to 90 miles an hour in the reverse thread. Sh thought he looked like he had a clear agenda. She said that she was focusing on pooky's 150 performance in the reverse thread after giving the forwards thread 10. She reiterated basically the same argument about pooky twice in this post. It was rambly.

Nacho said he felt pooky-scum very strongly when ffery asked if pooky-scum or not.

Tammy wrote a post about LLD's early posting saying that LLD felt schmoozy fake-laughing like at bad jokes at an office party. It went on and on from there with cards against humanity games and stifled boredom and there's no way I can do it justice via paraphrase. you'll have to read it postgame. It's post 299.

Tammy suggested that Cabd NOT fake a guilty and just yell about skitter until we elim her. (this is partially a joke but yelling about skitter was serious)

Tammy loved Firebringer this game and doesn't care what his alignment is, he's a bright spot in a barbaric thread.

Nacho said that Midwaybear's post 34 was strange. Midway suggested that we should send over PRs who are stronger in the other thread. He said it so matter of factly that it sounded like he's confident he knows how things work. Then midway went on to point out that that idea wouldn't work because players would be outed. Then he voted himself for turnstile.

Tammy went back to the issue of cabd/midway/LLD day end weirdness again. She questioned herself again over expecting a better response if they had all known what was coming when pooky turnstiled over. She felt less so about midway on this, but also had been thinking that her earlier townread on him was bad, and thought that first thinking about LLD and then saying not felt strange. She reiterated that Cabd and LLD would have coordinated better than for them to both be there and not knowing what to do. She said that having to deal with an infant at that time made perfect sense for not being there. And she questioned why FL self-hammered as town there.

Nacho said he didn't understand why midway ended up voting Annie Edison. And didn't understand why he ended up voting for FL after having him as a lean town. Nacho liked his self confidence, but noted it was in short spates. He liked midway's post 261, but said it was not enough to solidify him as town. Nacho wanted to press him on his thoughts when he made these stances.

Tammy said she'd be surprised if Firebringer was telling the truth about his role.

Nacho reiterated a few times that he did NOT want us to turnstile anyone to the Forwards Thread today.

And, last but not least, Nacho gave me the sacred duty of getting along with superbowl today and working to get him into the Purple Room. Tlaloc knows I'm trying!

I <3 this neighborhood so much! Miss you guys! Hope I've done your thoughts justice!

[Deacon Blues]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R A R S E N I C

<3

Ffery, did you want me to effort-paraphrase this thread's wall?

You mean what I just did?

Is it that bad?

[superbowl9]

The thing I most wanted was for the wagon to slow down because eliming here put a timer on the other thread and that was objectively bad even if they did miselim shellyc before 48 hours was breathing down their necks. Slowing down would have given our thread more time to consider the wagon and pooky's part in it.

I feel like some players, including town are ignoring the overall impact of the quickelim because of some kind of inter/intra-thread hostilities, and not owning their part in that.

Let's not do that again.

I really don't think the quicklim was bad (or at least not as bad as you're making it seem)

[Deacon Blues]

The thing I most wanted was for the wagon to slow down because eliming here put a timer on the other thread and that was objectively bad even if they did miselim shellyc before 48 hours was breathing down their necks. Slowing down would have given our thread more time to consider the wagon and pooky's part in it.

I feel like some players, including town are ignoring the overall impact of the quickelim because of some kind of inter/intra-thread hostilities, and not owning their part in that.

Let's not do that again.

I really don't think the quicklim was bad (or at least not as bad as you're making it seem)

I am not a hasty player. And I hate the idea of one thread cutting short the other thread's process before they're ready.

But, how you doing otherwise? Nacho and Tammy like you a lot for town.

IF YOU ARE NOT VOTING SUPERBOWL FOR PURPLE ROOM YOU NEED TO FIX THAT. DO IT FOR NACHO IF YOU WON'T DO IT FOR ME.

[superbowl9]

And, last but not least, Nacho gave me the sacred duty of getting along with superbowl today and working to get him into the Purple Room. Tlaloc knows I'm trying!

[petapan]

less exciting than i'd hoped, tbh

was there a reason nacho wanted to bury skitter so bad? beyond mech stuff

fwiw while some of midwaybear's stuff is weird still think the emotional response range to questioning from him is more likely town. if he ever seems to be struggling to coming up with something to say he's scum.

5/10 (for real this time)

[Deacon Blues]

Also, we don't necessarly *need* to get out all of the scum of a thread by n2, like, if we do it by n3 there will be a nokill which is a pretty clear sign?

Oh gee, look who actually said it.

yeah, sorry. fact checking on top of paraphrasing is a bridge so far that these posts would never have seen the light of this game day.

[superbowl9]

I'm good, and I kind of like sticking it to the other thread. I think I just like sticking it to people in general

[Deacon Blues]

less exciting than i'd hoped, tbh

was there a reason nacho wanted to bury skitter so bad? beyond mech stuff

fwiw while some of midwaybear's stuff is weird still think the emotional response range to questioning from him is more likely town. if he ever seems to be struggling to coming up with something to say he's scum.

5/10 (for real this time)

He didn't mention mech stuff at all that I can recall. And I think I would have seen it after rereading the neighborhood twice. The mech stuff is a fever I caught from Cabd's metaphors and ~someone's~ softs.

There are also convos between me, Cabd, bork and Ceph about playes in both threads in the neighborhood. And also a fair bit of 3 hydras partying. I'm not going to paraphrase the whole neighborhood. I think the IC's thoughts are the important stuff.

I'm sure cabd, ceph or bork will correct me or add to the body of work if I've left out something I shouldn't have.

[petapan]

then can i get a 1-2 sentence summary of why

6/10