Yellowstone

Noraa · Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:58 am

In post 2248, MathBlade wrote:Gun to my head it’s G Vax and Pig

ok progress. This solve is something I can work with considering at least it doesn't literally have me smack dab in the middle.

Momrangal · Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:59 am

What do you think of the newest revelations?

Noraa · Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:00 am

In post 2251, Momrangal wrote:What do you think of the newest revelations?

haven't read up but if the solve doesn't contain me, theres already progress.

MathBlade · Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:02 am

In post 2249, Noraa wrote:
In post 2247, MathBlade wrote:I think it’s possible but not probable
you were furiously pushing it for the longest time. did I miss something?
Ya ran around saying I was scum with guillo all of today.

More of a who shades the masons as town and who does it as scum.

You not continuing the push is sus, and if I am wrong on Vax I would look back at you.

Because it’s possible it’s just G+Pig and G told Pig to include those words like he did cop to try to bait PRs into responding and Vax is town.

Just more likely G+Pig+Vax

No way someone does crumbs like that for roles they don’t have in the exact same way without communication when one is a newb.

Noraa · Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:04 am

In post 2253, MathBlade wrote:More of a who shades the masons as town and who does it as scum.

I don't think I've shaded you. I just really dislike how ur doing things.

Marky Mark · Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:12 am

So, just thinking this through for due diligence. What are the scenarios where pig could legit be a doctor?

-Scum killed toog last night and JV is either lying or just also targeted toog
-scum targeted Vax and also role blocked them to stop the pgo and pig protected them?!?
-scum submitted no kill last night
-there are multiple protectives

Like I'm genuinely struggling to imagine a gamestate that would work if pig is telling the truth. The first of the above is most plausible, but still seems like an odd nk choice

Noraa · Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:17 am

I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:18 am

Imagine how I felt when you were a vig in that mini normal and there were 3 nights in a row with only 1 kill lol

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:19 am

Meaning: I see what you're saying but there have been bigger coincidences.

MathBlade · Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:20 am

In post 2255, Marky Mark wrote:So, just thinking this through for due diligence. What are the scenarios where pig could legit be a doctor?

-Scum killed toog last night and JV is either lying or just also targeted toog
-scum targeted Vax and also role blocked them to stop the pgo and pig protected them?!?
-scum submitted no kill last night
-there are multiple protectives

Like I'm genuinely struggling to imagine a gamestate that would work if pig is telling the truth. The first of the above is most plausible, but still seems like an odd nk choice

Roleblocker would be dead. Second option fails.

It’s really likely pig is scum here. Let’s evaluate Pig town if Pig town not before. If he’s town he’s demonstrated worse than vanilla as he doesn’t understand who to protect.

MathBlade · Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:21 am

In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/

More than likely it’s a true one shot claim and alignment is the thing to be sorted.

Marky Mark · Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:22 am

In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/

But presumably risky to blind claim that if scum given the likelihood in this flavour of there being some sort of town vig who would cc

Would be good to see the rest of the claims tho so that we can try and see if the town pr stack looks balanced (please feel free to disagree if I'm missing something here)

--pedit yeah I think pig being scum is the most likely scenario hut clearly good to use the time we have to think it through

MathBlade · Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:22 am

If Pig flips scum here then almost certainly DGB and JV are town here by claim and mechanics.
That’d be one hell of a bus from DGB and not in its meta.

MathBlade · Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:23 am

In post 2261, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/
But presumably risky to blind claim that if scum given the likelihood in this flavour of there being some sort of town vig who would cc

Would be good to see the rest of the claims tho so that we can try and see if the town pr stack looks balanced (please feel free to disagree if I'm missing something here)

--pedit yeah I think pig being scum is the most likely scenario hut clearly good to use the time we have to think it through

You’re missing something here.

Let’s get pig and sort the rest later

Noraa · Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:23 am

In post 2257, Infinity 324 wrote:Imagine how I felt when you were a vig in that mini normal and there were 3 nights in a row with only 1 kill lol

pfft. Yeah but that one didn't have enough power.

It was 2 nights in a row. The first night the scum kill was on a bulletproof. The second night, we double killed.

But I was 3 shot that game so I was able to prove it.

Noraa · Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:24 am

In post 2258, Infinity 324 wrote:Meaning: I see what you're saying but there have been bigger coincidences.

Jacko's read on me is also weird btw.

Noraa · Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:24 am

In post 2260, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/
More than likely it’s a true one shot claim and alignment is the thing to be sorted.

vig cannot be scum so idk what ur saying

MathBlade · Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:25 am

In post 2266, Noraa wrote:
In post 2260, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/
More than likely it’s a true one shot claim and alignment is the thing to be sorted.
vig cannot be scum so idk what ur saying

It’s a theme. Vig can be scum albeit unlikely

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:25 am

It's such a weird fakeclaim is my only concern. Like why doesn't one of his scumbuddies claim doc to try to save him or something? And why claim doc on vax?

PEdit: I think JV is ++town on play.

Noraa · Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:25 am

In post 2261, Marky Mark wrote:But presumably risky to blind claim that if scum given the likelihood in this flavour of there being some sort of town vig who would cc

Would be good to see the rest of the claims tho so that we can try and see if the town pr stack looks balanced (please feel free to disagree if I'm missing something here)

--pedit yeah I think pig being scum is the most likely scenario hut clearly good to use the time we have to think it through

Jacko just modded a game with two full fledged town docs. I really don't think two vigs especially one heavily gated is weird to him :/

Marky Mark · Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:25 am

In post 2263, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2261, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/
But presumably risky to blind claim that if scum given the likelihood in this flavour of there being some sort of town vig who would cc

Would be good to see the rest of the claims tho so that we can try and see if the town pr stack looks balanced (please feel free to disagree if I'm missing something here)

--pedit yeah I think pig being scum is the most likely scenario hut clearly good to use the time we have to think it through
You’re missing something here.

Let’s get pig and sort the rest later

Missing something as in my logic is poor (entirely possible) or missing something as in secret PR stuff that would be anti town to reveal rn?

Marky Mark · Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:25 am

In post 2263, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2261, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 2256, Noraa wrote:I've thought about Jacko's claim and its actually really bad. Think about it ... there's no double kill and he's only one shot .....

what a big coincidence :/
But presumably risky to blind claim that if scum given the likelihood in this flavour of there being some sort of town vig who would cc

Would be good to see the rest of the claims tho so that we can try and see if the town pr stack looks balanced (please feel free to disagree if I'm missing something here)

--pedit yeah I think pig being scum is the most likely scenario hut clearly good to use the time we have to think it through
You’re missing something here.

Let’s get pig and sort the rest later

Missing something as in my logic is poor (entirely possible) or missing something as in secret PR stuff that would be anti town to reveal rn?

Noraa · Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:26 am

In post 2267, MathBlade wrote:It’s a theme. Vig can be scum albeit unlikely

no they can't. I thought vigs could only be town? the wiki says that :/

MathBlade · Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:31 am

In post 2272, Noraa wrote:
In post 2267, MathBlade wrote:It’s a theme. Vig can be scum albeit unlikely
no they can't. I thought vigs could only be town? the wiki says that :/

Wiki only applies to normal games. This is a theme.

MarkyMark it is antitown to answer that.

MathBlade · Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:33 am

In post 2268, Infinity 324 wrote:It's such a weird fakeclaim is my only concern. Like why doesn't one of his scumbuddies claim doc to try to save him or something? And why claim doc on vax?

PEdit: I think JV is ++town on play.

They can’t likely. Because of the order. It’s partially why we did it like that. We have method to madness.

Fake claim was prolly to try to quick elim/bus (not sure which) Vax to save pig