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[Galron]

Frog's lack of reaction to my scumread leans me town on Frog.

[Lunar Martian]

The thing about Amelie's agressiveness is, it's one thing to be aggressive in the "town spirit" and work with other town players in the name of hunting scum, it's quite another to be agressive towards players that are by and large being townread by the rest of the table. It could be the result of inexperience or it could be the result of scum with an agenda.

I really don't like this post or the ones following it from NoPower. It feels like trying to deflect attention from a building wagon on him onto an alternate wagon, and doesn't it seem like being antagonistic is exactly the sort of thing Mafia would try to avoid?

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.9

bugspray(4)

~ Trendall(24), Gamma Emerald(55), NoPowerOverMe(59), Luca Blight(30)

Trendall(3)

~ Grendel(36), OutWorldER(10), Momrangal(27)

NoPowerOverMe(2)

~ Lunar Martian(6), Amélie(40)

Lunar Martian(2)

~ AGamblingPig(3), Frogsterking(29)

Frogsterking(1)

~ Galron(20)

Amélie(1)

~ bugspray(26)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-01 11:27:58)

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[OutWorldER]

apologies for inactivity.

i'll get reading.

[AGamblingPig]

First 5 pages.

WAY TOO MUCH PERSONALITY TEST BS.

NPOM and Gamma at each other's throats for some reason.

Pages 6-10

Outworlder jumping on a town leaning grendel is weird. but it doesn't last long.

Grendel wagon starts to build. Not particularly sure why.

frogster acting pro-town on page 8. several good analysis posts.

200 from Grendel is a good point about scum not necessarily participating heavily in the thread.

Amelie and Luca come in strong with quality posting. like what they are adding.

PAGE 11-16

pAGE 12 is nonsese. Nothing of note form anyone.

Tow reads
Frogster
Amelie
Grendel

Sketchy
Lunar
mom


I'm gonna keep my vote where it is for now. But I'm also gonna go back and ISO the two top wagons to see if I can get a read on either of them.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I could care less about the wagon if it gets to E1 I'll claim and there will be no surprises.

[OutWorldER]

alright so obviously the game-state is still stalled.

but I think I have a grasp on things. At least, I see a few possible narratives that could be happening and I think the key to solving which one of them is true is an NPOM flip:

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

I think this is the best lim at the moment. Very informative and there's a good case here. The way he was so dismissive and discrediting of his wagon in 360, Post 372 and 373 definitely gives me vibes of coasting scum aware of the good position their in.

More-over, I think NPOM's flip will be informative as to solving a few of the weirder interactions in the game as well as giving the answer as to if the game and wagons stalling is a purposeful scum creation. The main interaction I'm referring to is the NPOM v. Frogster interaction on Page 3, where Frogster builds a case against NPOM but then pushes Lunar with (what is in my opinion and the opinion of some others that I've seen) a very stretchy and weak read. Definitely feels like scum distancing there.

[Amélie]

Can anyone spot the irony here?

You unvoted because people were voicing an Amélie town perspective. There is no irony here and just because your terrible vote on me came off doesn't mean anything.

[Amélie]

I'm supposed to be worried about E3?

You made it seem like I was supposed to be worried at E-6 or something so I would assume you should be worried.

[Amélie]

11:30. I'm going to sign off here.

[Lunar Martian]

alright so obviously the game-state is still stalled.

but I think I have a grasp on things. At least, I see a few possible narratives that could be happening and I think the key to solving which one of them is true is an NPOM flip:

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

I think this is the best lim at the moment. Very informative and there's a good case here. The way he was so dismissive and discrediting of his wagon in 360, Post 372 and 373 definitely gives me vibes of coasting scum aware of the good position their in.

More-over, I think NPOM's flip will be informative as to solving a few of the weirder interactions in the game as well as giving the answer as to if the game and wagons stalling is a purposeful scum creation. The main interaction I'm referring to is the NPOM v. Frogster interaction on Page 3, where Frogster builds a case against NPOM but then pushes Lunar with (what is in my opinion and the opinion of some others that I've seen) a very stretchy and weak read. Definitely feels like scum distancing there.

Something about this post feels off to me. Does anyone else see that?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Scum is obviously afraid of me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

OutworldER claiming that votes based on very flimsy reasoning are solid is just way out in left field.

Furthermore, his reasoning that elimining me gives information could be true of anyone that is actually being active and scumhunting.

My theory is that the townblock is correct on at least 4 out of 5 placements, maybe 5 out of 5, and the red team is intimidated. No coincidence that none of the votes on me are coming from outside of the townblock.

[Trendall]

Something about this post feels off to me. Does anyone else see that?

Yeah I looked at that post and didn't like the first line very much.

[Momrangal]

V/LA till Monday

Happy holidays pplz

[Luca Blight]

Can anyone spot the irony here?

You unvoted because people were voicing an Amélie town perspective. There is no irony here and just because your terrible vote on me came off doesn't mean anything.

No-one was saying you were Town before my unvote, apart from Bugs who said you might be ‘newbtown’, but they’re still voting you and are most likely scum themselves anyway.

The irony is that you say it’s weird how I’m focusing only on you, and then in your very next post vote me for changing my vote to someone else.

[Luca Blight]

This NPOM wagon is awful.

[Luca Blight]

Lunar, you never explained why Gamma or I are scum based on the other page?

[Trendall]

This NPOM wagon is awful.

Yeah agreed

[AGamblingPig]

This NPOM wagon is awful.

Shit, I forgot to include Luca in my town reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see Amelie and Bugs as partners.

I don’t know if I agree. My sense is you say this over Amelie speaking up around the time bugs got wagoned, but I switched to bugs after Amelie had a burst of effort.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I say this because Amelie and Bugs have practically nothing to say about each other.

[Gamma Emerald]

If im alive in the mid to late game and all the "null" reads in her list end up being town then Im gonna grant Amelie conf!town status. It'd be bonkers for a scum!Amelie to keep all the town players under the most pressure as just null reads, and hone in on players whole are more town read in general. This is more a note to myself for later. It can be dismissed if there is scum in her null reads.

This is quite scummy honestly. It almost feels like tmi to me.

That would be a pretty big TMI if so.

[Luca Blight]

I’m more confident on Bugs/Lunar being partners atm.

[Lunar Martian]

I think Amelie is town. I really have no idea about bugspray, their posts are hard for me to parse. I'm willing to vote there potentially, but don't see a strong reason to atm.

VOTE: OutWorldER