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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:33 am

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LM is there a reason you decided to switch to a vanity vote?
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In post 525, Gamma Emerald wrote:LM is there a reason you decided to switch to a vanity vote?
What do you mean?
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Amelie what is your general process for forming reads?
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 526, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 525, Gamma Emerald wrote:LM is there a reason you decided to switch to a vanity vote?
What do you mean?
You had consolidated with mom onto OWER earlier, but just now you voted Luca. I’m curious what your aims are rn
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:05 am

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My aims are finding the Mafia. OWER is a fine vote. I think Luca is better. There's plenty of time. I don't like that you're trying to blatantly manipulate my vote into being on one of the popular trains.
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I think multiple of the popular wagons rn have a chance to flip scum
So I think it makes perfect sense for me to ask about this rn
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:27 am

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It looks like sorting Luca correctly is the most efficient path to a D1 scum lynch because most of the serious contenders to a D1 lynch are beginning to revolve around Luca.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 517, Amélie wrote:Town: Frogsterking, Galron, bugspray, NoPowerOverMe
Null: OutWorldER, Lunar Martian, Trendall, AGamblingPig, Grendel,
Scum: Gamma Emerald, Luca Blight, Momrangal

I'm actually considering lifting Luca Blight because of his interactions with my scum reads being a good look but I'm going to hold off on that for a bit.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 510, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
I’ve hard townread you every time you’ve been Town, including in the game I was scum, because when you’re Town you’re obviously Town. The only time I’ve previously SR you was when you were indeed scum, and you played in the same way you’re doing here.
Can you think of any other explanations for bugs behavior this game other than a scum flip?
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:00 pm

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Luca is town.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:01 pm

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I'm going to evaluate Amelie and bugs now.

My instinct now is that we're dealing with an extremely disorganized scum team.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:13 pm

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Amelie is also town.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:32 pm

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In post 37, bugspray wrote:Frogster why is your ocean test better than rvs and why didn't you link us all the same one and also post your results? NPOM and Galren might be beside one another in this wagon and I'm here to back them up
This is the post that made me gut read bugs as town at the beginning of the game. I believe it appeared town to me because I took his question as an
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he was thinking about scum hunting. The rest of his posts since then have looked pretty weak.

At this point I'm the most open to eliminating Lunar. Before the end of D1 I would like to see what can be done about sorting the remaining slots.

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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 523, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 477, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 466, Momrangal wrote:
In post 391, Luca Blight wrote:This NPOM wagon is awful.
I agree with this, but I'm curious to why you think trendall isn't getting lynched. There are multiple people who have expressed that slot being likely scum and next to OWER.

There are also multiple slots expressing concern over OWER, but instead the consensus seems to be nerfing the loudest voice in the game. I'm not joining the NPOM wagon, and I could drop a vote on either but I would much rather drop scum over town.
Because no-one is particularly pushing the Trendall wagon, and there are three more popular wagons on the table, two of which I think are pretty obviously better eliminations. I’m perhaps biased about Bugs due to meta, but I don’t get why you’d want Trendall eliminated over Lunar who just seems objectively scummy; just popping in every now and then, steering things in a certain direction with no follow-up, no train of thought, no explanation and while repeatedly avoiding questions.
Since you know me better than anyone else in this game you should know that that's not because I'm mafia, but just because I've been busy. The fact that you're trying to paint it as me being Mafia tells me you're being disingenuous.

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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:41 pm

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In post 533, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 510, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
I’ve hard townread you every time you’ve been Town, including in the game I was scum, because when you’re Town you’re obviously Town. The only time I’ve previously SR you was when you were indeed scum, and you played in the same way you’re doing here.
Can you think of any other explanations for bugs behavior this game other than a scum flip?
No, they’ve displayed nothing of their Town behavior this game, and their reaction to my push feels as though they don’t quite know how to react to it, as though they know they’ve been caught.

I’ve had a lot of success meta reading certain players this way in the past. I was wrong on one occasion, although that was a bit of a unique situation.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:41 pm

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I'm feeling Momrangals push from a few pages ago on the outworldER guy.

Lunar and outworldER are my top picks right now.

I guess I'm still sorting bugs, and I subconsciously moved Trendall from a scum read to a neutral read in my last list.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 539, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 533, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 510, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
I’ve hard townread you every time you’ve been Town, including in the game I was scum, because when you’re Town you’re obviously Town. The only time I’ve previously SR you was when you were indeed scum, and you played in the same way you’re doing here.
Can you think of any other explanations for bugs behavior this game other than a scum flip?
No, they’ve displayed nothing of their Town behavior this game, and their reaction to my push feels as though they don’t quite know how to react to it, as though they know they’ve been caught.

I’ve had a lot of success meta reading certain players this way in the past. I was wrong on one occasion, although that was a bit of a unique situation.
Is this early post consistent with what you would expect from his scum game?
In post 37, bugspray wrote:Frogster why is your ocean test better than rvs and why didn't you link us all the same one and also post your results? NPOM and Galren might be beside one another in this wagon and I'm here to back them up
If he's scum then this post threw me a little bit.
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Sorry bugs for not using they/them I'll try to not mess up again.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:52 pm

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I would say that particular post could come from either alignment. I don’t really get their point about NPOM and Galron there, tbh.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 539, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 533, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 510, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
I’ve hard townread you every time you’ve been Town, including in the game I was scum, because when you’re Town you’re obviously Town. The only time I’ve previously SR you was when you were indeed scum, and you played in the same way you’re doing here.
Can you think of any other explanations for bugs behavior this game other than a scum flip?
No, they’ve displayed nothing of their Town behavior this game, and their reaction to my push feels as though they don’t quite know how to react to it, as though they know they’ve been caught.

I’ve had a lot of success meta reading certain players this way in the past. I was wrong on one occasion, although that was a bit of a unique situation.
I don't know how to react to it, but not because I've been caught. I don't know how to react to it because you are pushing me for a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense. Since it doesn't make sense there's not much for me to say.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:58 pm

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....I was talking about Bugs, not you.

I’m not even voting for you.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 544, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 539, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 533, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 510, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 462, bugspray wrote:im very scared of Luca because I can't read him and remember him rolling scum one time and believing he looked exactly like town!Luca and trying to elim me at any time is usually not very controversial (meta me if you're into that) and neither is wanting to elim lunar which makes me very :(

npim here is reminding me increasingly of town!formerfish
I’ve hard townread you every time you’ve been Town, including in the game I was scum, because when you’re Town you’re obviously Town. The only time I’ve previously SR you was when you were indeed scum, and you played in the same way you’re doing here.
Can you think of any other explanations for bugs behavior this game other than a scum flip?
No, they’ve displayed nothing of their Town behavior this game, and their reaction to my push feels as though they don’t quite know how to react to it, as though they know they’ve been caught.

I’ve had a lot of success meta reading certain players this way in the past. I was wrong on one occasion, although that was a bit of a unique situation.
I don't know how to react to it, but not because I've been caught. I don't know how to react to it because you are pushing me for a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense. Since it doesn't make sense there's not much for me to say.
Who do you think has made the most and the least sense this game, Lunar?
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Frog that's a pretty strange leading question. What are you trying to get out of it?
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