Yellowstone

[Guillotina]

My thoughts are basically yours and moms. But here we go

Infinity is prob scum. Nora aint great.

Guils bad too.

BDG I hesitate on

When you reference "g" im assuming you ae referring to guil?

DAMNIT. I swear guil/nora was worried about the other.

To all of them. WHY?

[Guillotina]

Also i gotta say if we dont win this game against scum, we suck.

They failed a kill on night 1, they chose to kill a fruit vendor on N2. Like a competent scum team will always try to kill the masons here specially if they claim mason+. I wanna see at the end of the game who the scum is, to offer them my coaching services but not before inquiring about their experience in the game, because they either really suck at wolfing or the masons are the actual wolves.

I've never seen the claimed PRs surviving this long after hardclaiming early game, not in a 13 players set up where most likely there is only one protective. Scum, what the hell are you doing? Are you always this bad?
Im not complaining, keep sucking at wolfing!

[MathBlade]

@Math what is the specific question you needed to make to Vaxkiller?

Like he's been here and you are yet to ask him.

Describe the message you got. Paint a picture with your words.

[MathBlade]

Sorry a little under the weather I forgot. Thanks.

[JacksonVirgo]

Please avoid neon I can’t read it

Yes! We can send secret messages without Math reading mwahahahaha

[JacksonVirgo]

I've just finished an 11 hour shift so I'm not with it, not a bad shift just a long and tough boi

[MathBlade]

Please avoid neon I can’t read it

Yes! We can send secret messages without Math reading mwahahahaha

Please stop this.

[Nero Cain]

this is everyone's first and final warning. No neon text.

[Nero Cain]

Votecount 3.3

[4]Vaxkiller:

JacksonVirgo, Infinity 324, Momrangal, Guillotina

[1]Guillotina:

Marky Mark

[1]Noraa:

Mathblade

[3] Not Voting:

DrippingGoofball, Vaxkiller, Noraa

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

The elimination deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-05 17:18:22).

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't think I ever voted Guill so Vax is at E-1.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't think I ever voted Guill so Vax is at E-1.

As in I am voting Vax aorn

[Marky Mark]

Morning all

Having some technical issues with my PC so gonna be phone posting until that's sorted.

Vax - please answer the question ref why you didn't claim D1, as per the wikis suggestion for optimal pgo play

Also @vax - why do you prefer Noraa here over g? If you're town then the only reason to elim Nora over g would be if the scum no-killed as a gambit. Is that what you think happened?

[Marky Mark]

I'm voting guill tho

[Marky Mark]

I don't especially mind a Vax elim, as they have done scummy stuff too, but I just think guill is more likely scum

[Marky Mark]

I'm voting guill tho

To clarify, I have already voted G, it is just not in the vote count for some reason

b/c its 3am

[Marky Mark]

We probs also want to allow TPRs to plan night actions should they wish to, prior to anyone potential hammers

[JacksonVirgo]

Mark, mind explaining what you think the possibilites are of each. And yes I am going to write them as blunt as I possibly can.

1. DGB roleblocked two killing scum two nights in a row, both with a killing role claiming a kill (essentially).
   
2. scum!vax killed Flea to keep their claim a possability.
   
3. Mafia killed Flea or no-killed to incriminate the PGO claim, regardless of the fact that a few people already suspected them to be a scum!PGO.
   
4. Mafia kill was stopped by a hidden protective.
   
5. Mafia did a no-kill gambit to both incriminate the town!PGO immediately and then whoever town!DGB roleblocked once the town!PGO flips Town.
   
6. Mafia did a no-kill to both incriminate the town!PGO immediately and when they flip Town, they will semi-incriminate who scum!DGB roleblocked.

Let me know if there's more scenarios that popped into your head. A tinfoil popped into my head while writing those down that if Gills IS scum, they have to be goon due to the Role Cop and Mafia likely has one PR which would not be doing the kill, I also doubt 4 mafia. Though I do think Vax > Gills but wouldn't mind switching it

[Marky Mark]

1 seems a little less likely now that you put it like that.
2 is very possible if scum fakeclaimed expecting not to get caught
3 seems unlikely because you give up a kill against two investigative TPRs
4 seems unlikely but if there is one then they can claim if and only if them claiming affects the calculus of who to elim
5/6 are both possible, but again mean scum giving TPRs more actions due to not killing them, which risks a mechanical solve for town

My gut is saying that guillo is scum here and that that is the simplest explanation, but the more I think about things as you have out them across, I can see that DGB RB ing the killing scum twice in a row might not be as likely as I initially thought

[Vaxkiller]

@math. I never got the official msg. He sent a msg saying there was a mistake, I should have received a picnic basket last night, and he understood if I was mad at him. I sent back no worries, because hey, we all make mistakes. I thought about asking for the official msg, but I'm pretty sure fruit vendor roles just say " you received fruitname" do....

[Vaxkiller]

Sooo...

Edit

[Marky Mark]

Vax - please answer the question ref why you didn't claim D1, as per the wikis suggestion for optimal pgo play

Also @vax - why do you prefer Noraa here over g? If you're town then the only reason to elim Nora over g would be if the scum no-killed as a gambit. Is that what you think happened?

While you're here Vax, would you mind answering these?

[Vaxkiller]

I was trying to attract the shot day 1. Apparently, it was not effective. I wanted to leave a few more pr hints towards the end of that day, but the day ended quickly before I could.

I don't think scum no killed, but can't guil and Nora be scum? If so I'd rather have Nora since guil wants to die.

[Vaxkiller]

I need to reread the mechanics of last night.

[MathBlade]

@math. I never got the official msg. He sent a msg saying there was a mistake, I should have received a picnic basket last night, and he understood if I was mad at him. I sent back no worries, because hey, we all make mistakes. I thought about asking for the official msg, but I'm pretty sure fruit vendor roles just say " you received fruitname" do....

Describe the basket. Was a paragraph over wordy? Or was there something unique?

[Marky Mark]

I don't think scum no killed, but can't guil and Nora be scum? If so I'd rather have Nora since guil wants to die.

I don't follow - in the scenario you are describing (you are town and scum didn't no-kill (or x-kill flea) then guill is confscum unless we have a secret protective. I find it hard to believe that you think noraa is a better elim choice in that world