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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Victim blaming is... Not an okay word to use in this setting or circumstance and I am gonna...dip for a bit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh. yea my only experience with scum!you is from PYP and I don't remember you doing any WKing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just remember you tried to save me in 960 and i kind of shat on you for it and that was a pretty stupid thing to do :/

[Something_Smart]

Victim blaming is... Not an okay word to use in this setting or circumstance and I am gonna...dip for a bit

Sorry if my use of the phrase upsets you. I'll rephrase it.

I don't like when people mis-execute someone and then blame them for getting mis-executed. In rare cases it is justified, but usually it is just a tactic to avoid taking responsibility for being wrong (if town)/pushing a mis-execution (if scum).

If you say someone is scummy, and they were town, then that was you being wrong. (Which is fine. No one's right all the time.) Not them failing to perform to your expectations.

[Dandelion Wine]

If Titus is scum here she has REALLY stepped up her game in the past year

I really doubt it though

You don't seem to have a clue who scum are anyway, so you could do worse than sheeping me.

My lim pool is still the same lim pool at this moment in time

They just have different degrees of confidence

(hint: I am confident in none of them)

Whispers in Spiffeh's ear:

Sheep Me

i like these posts a lot. i feel like it's not an attitude i'm used to seeing from brian, but i like it anyway.

I just can’t solve as scum.
Like at all.
I don’t put on a shit eating grin and laugh like i’m BM when i’m Scum this game.
Like just iso me. It’s long but there’s a lot of consistently and readily available explanation for any thought process I may have whether I say it then or later, it still gets said eventually

*i’m a LOT* more vague as scum
And also, I can barely talk to my scum partners but i’ve Evenly distributed my interactions with players for the most part, or at least haven’t avoided anyone.

Uh, just a whole lotta reasons i’m Not scum this game.

this is weird.
why are you aware that you've evenly distributed your interactions? it makes it sound intentional. the only other thing i can come up for to explain this sentence is that it exists to shoehorn in the "even" crumb, and i don't think you'd prefer i choose that interpretation.

i'm just gonna post this now before it becomes painfully quotestripey.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

comment i forgot to put on paper regarding brian's titus case: i'm particularly fond of the idea that her just citing "lolmoonlogic" is something she's doing to look town on purpose. it's town-indicative when she actually posts the moonlogic, imo, and saying it exists but is a big secret i can't tell you feels more like an imitation of her town game.

hp sort of accidentally towncasing brian? is the first thing ive liked from them, though if they set out to towncase him (which i should double check) then never mind

bell:
4289-90 do give me the feel of "i'm the last scum over here". and like, "i'd be falling apart if i was scum here" while basically falling apart is kinda funny.
4304 is role-based fearmongering. i think this post comes from someone who has already decided to claim, so 4310 ("should i claim") is a strange follow up.
4308 feels like trying to produce guilt because ffery/cabd like him, but i can see myself starting to confbias here
i think someone already pointed out that 4314 isn't logical
4372 is fearmongering "cabd ur gonna lose a lot of influence when i flip town". 4401 is the same.
why are people townreading this reaction.
-ceph

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[Dandelion Wine]

hp and muffin both defending bell sure doesn't make me feel better about him lol
but i guess i suspect titus now too and that's too many scum

page 181 just reads like bell deliberately trying to throw some fake associatives and continues to be the meltdown he would supposedly be having if he were scum
help help i'm digging a tunnel
-ceph

[Something_Smart]

Why do you think scum shoot at the IC N1 with no strongman? They're just crossing their fingers that there's no protective?

[Dandelion Wine]

I

rolled

scum

excellent

Right from the doggo's mouth, folks.

[Dandelion Wine]

fwiw when bell's doc crumbs were brought up in the purple room & on discord by cabd i said i wasn't convinced they were crumbs, but bell actually claiming doctor after that is a revelation for me and i am admittedly unsure what he gains as scum by denying they were crumbs but it seems farfetched to me

Brian's OMGUSing hard

is he????

Well. This 1v1 is leaving my conflicted, confused, and fence sitty and i’m Not even sure this is a false dillrma or not. And I should just find a different fence.

how lol brian is clearly getting the better of this
this is the sort of thing scum like to say to look like they're thinking

@cephrir, hmm? Because I try to look town as town. I’m pretty aware of my own interaction patterns and weaknesses, though I occasionally forget them.

I’m pretty confident i’ve mentioned interaction patterns both as a self meta defense and to read others.

that's weird!
i'm not putting much stock in the meta stuff, everyone is doing it and i prefer to just play this game more than other games. i'll trust cabd to do some of that for me and i'll care what he thinks but personally i usually only use meta with people i've personally experienced

-ceph

[Something_Smart]

Will you at least accept the meta claim that he has randomly capitalized words in past games and it has (to my knowledge) never been for crumbing purposes?

[Dandelion Wine]

Will you at least accept the meta claim that he has randomly capitalized words in past games and it has (to my knowledge) never been for crumbing purposes?

i don't need meta for that, i can see it in his iso in this game. he could have decided to use it to crumb in this game, or he could not have; i don't think the even thing is that important anyway
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

ss have you seen titus' post directed at you or are you just defending bell for fun
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

never elim brian ever ever ever. he is a radiating ball of town.
-ceph

[petapan]

brian hooked a live one yall

[Something_Smart]

ss have you seen titus' post directed at you or are you just defending bell for fun

I mean I'm defending Bell because I think he's probably town and regardless it isn't a good idea to kill him now.

I have not seen Titus's post. I'll look at it now.

[Dandelion Wine]

wait, if we turnstile titus she gets loverized to ss? so... we can lim both of them at once? uh i kind of want to do that but we already turnstiled.
lovers that only exist in inverted thread doesn't suggest a forwards doc exists to me at all.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Oh also.

#1094: Pinged.
#1098: Okay.
#1099: Okay?
#1111: You sound like there's a terrorist with a gun to your head forcing you to play in 12 games just out of frame or something.
#1113: I don't!
#1125: Sure.
#1135: Wut? We went to a Halloween pumpkin tour thing. It was very pretty. My grandpa said his favorite part was the pumpkin 'Dinasnores.' which is my new favorite made up word.
#1214: What about the last few pages wasn't fun? I had fun.

"Poo(k)y is WW" (Bell was scum with Pooky this game and signaling to traitor-taylor swift)


It's not like there's not precedent for Bell knowing about this style of thing. Bulge head of Annie was the one who caught it, even.

[pisskop]

Im gonna assume I can get some reads by reading the first pages. If somebody can point me to some key tech that'd be awesome though.

[Something_Smart]

Ah ok. I confirm that Titus & I are neighbors who become lovers if we are in the same timestream. I don't agree with her that this implies doc. I think the IC NK implies strongman, which implies doc.

I think she's probably town from setup spec; it doesn't make an awful lot of sense for this role to be T/S.

[Dandelion Wine]

It really really really eeallly reallllllllly doesn’t make sense to me.

I mean sure, we’ve had games with no doc or whatever in smoke filled.
Wait were you in that game.

But the balancing was all different was the conclusion i’m Skipping to the end here.

???????????????????
do you think every game has a doctor and lovers
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Ah ok. I confirm that Titus & I are neighbors who become lovers if we are in the same timestream. I don't agree with her that this implies doc. I think the IC NK implies strongman, which implies doc.

I think she's probably town from setup spec; it doesn't make an awful lot of sense for this role to be T/S.

i think it would actually be an interesting mechanic to force this on scum and watch what they do to avoid the turnstile
-ceph

[Something_Smart]

I would imagine the answer is "probably nothing."

[Dandelion Wine]

This is what I don’t get, where the fuck is your wait a minute moment?

It’s inexplicably missing.

wait a minute everyone! titus claimed a role that is NAI! hold the FUCK up pump the fucking BRAKES this is a GAME CHANGER
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

fuck, my not being sarcastic streak was going so well
-ceph