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Last edited by Datisi on Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:53 am, edited 3 times in total.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- clidd
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I bet all three of these are town that seems eminently possible. If there's a scum in there it's radja.In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/GimliLike the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not like a woman who is really into horses.- Horsewoman
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In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
the way this is my exact GtH solve rnIn post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/GimliLike the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not like a woman who is really into horses.- DkKoba
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In post 475, DkKoba wrote:
judge for yourself:In post 474, clidd wrote:Dk, on an ethical level of play, would you act unresolvable energetically and self-assertively, not allowing the question of the AI character of your slot as scum?
Asking in the hypothetical sphere, of course.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84723
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=84805
yes and no.
when I'm scum I use the same strategy as town to get townread, because its easy, because people oftentimes will latch onto my NAI mannerisms and I can easily debunk them.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=83486
heres an example of me getting caught for the ~right~ reasons by varsoon -> my early reads were completely illogical and bad (was my first scumgame that wasn't avalon maf which wasnt really a maf game lol)
so basically ur saying "uhhhhhhhhh this is POSSIBLE SO IT HAS TO BE TRUUUUUU"In post 503, Horsewoman wrote:In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
the way this is my exact GtH solve rnIn post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- clidd
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Hullo! I don't have much time this morning so let's see.
How would that be a read? If the entirety of my thoughts on horsewoman isn't based off this game, then there isn't a read. I'm townreading things she did in this game of course.In post 439, Lostego wrote: if im reading your posts wrong, your read on horsewoman is prior experience exclusively no?
(maybe I need coffee and these posts will suck, we'll see)
lostego's posts are really scummy. I might be moving onto something definite here.
Like this is so farfetched I'm not sure it can be a real thought. radja is far from being a consensus anything + this is not how you're supposed to scumhunt.In post 442, Lostego wrote:
OK this was ignored by about 3-4 people so i think scum is not interested in this wagon at all which makes it officially bad. when you have a near-consensus the best thing for scum to do is either insinuate that it's the right move or instill a sense of disbelief (if its wrong) for towncred. i am no longer supporting radjaIn post 407, Lostego wrote:what should be asked is if the consensus aligns with town being on the right track or not.
'these reads were never set in stone'. we all know that, so why the defensiveness? I don't think I'll make myself very clear now or case lostego for the right reasons but I get a very strong sense that his posts come from scum as there is no effort to solve and all of his opinions lack nuance.
your current stance on lostego is very important so I hope you did or will reevaluate soon.In post 449, clidd wrote:Lostego is making me rethink my read on Volxen, I need to go back and reevaluate what I was seeing on him.- DkKoba
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horsewoman why is it a high chance?GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- DkKoba
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COFFEE TELL COFFEE TELL COFFEE TELLIn post 507, Gimli son of Glóin wrote:Hullo! I don't have much time this morning so let's see.
How would that be a read? If the entirety of my thoughts on horsewoman isn't based off this game, then there isn't a read. I'm townreading things she did in this game of course.In post 439, Lostego wrote: if im reading your posts wrong, your read on horsewoman is prior experience exclusively no?
(maybe I need coffee and these posts will suck, we'll see)
lostego's posts are really scummy. I might be moving onto something definite here.
Like this is so farfetched I'm not sure it can be a real thought. radja is far from being a consensus anything + this is not how you're supposed to scumhunt.In post 442, Lostego wrote:
OK this was ignored by about 3-4 people so i think scum is not interested in this wagon at all which makes it officially bad. when you have a near-consensus the best thing for scum to do is either insinuate that it's the right move or instill a sense of disbelief (if its wrong) for towncred. i am no longer supporting radjaIn post 407, Lostego wrote:what should be asked is if the consensus aligns with town being on the right track or not.
'these reads were never set in stone'. we all know that, so why the defensiveness? I don't think I'll make myself very clear now or case lostego for the right reasons but I get a very strong sense that his posts come from scum as there is no effort to solve and all of his opinions lack nuance.
your current stance on lostego is very important so I hope you did or will reevaluate soon.In post 449, clidd wrote:Lostego is making me rethink my read on Volxen, I need to go back and reevaluate what I was seeing on him.
VOTE: gimli
TRUST ME ON THIS LOL THIS MANS JUST HARD SCUMTOLDGTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- Gimli son of Glóin
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I have to go do lots of things today and idk when I'll return or if I can post today so I'm making an effort while really sleepy to advance some thoughts.
clidd is almost in my townpile after his interaction with dkkoba. I've been having similar thoughts about koba and most of his interactions with my POE point to possible svs, specially to volxen/lostego, and I'm glad clidd got there and did so naturally.- Gimli son of Glóin
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nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
saying you need to drink coffee is a universal scumtell.
the real reasoning is that you're preemptively crafting an excuse as to why your posts might be "lower quality". its a subtle thing.
apologizing for "bad content" is scummy.
ergo
scumtell
but i'll play the game the normal way too:
you're discrediting lostego for a fair wagon analysis. like thats like reaching so hard to frame that as a scum mindset. and then to go and be like "there's no effort to solve"
mf he outted reads and reasoning idk where ur coming up with this its like u didnt even read what he has to say
and now ur appealing to clidd -> you townread clidd?GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- DkKoba
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gimli literally just pulled up to thread and said, fuck you guys imma show off my scum agenda to everyone.GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- Gimli son of Glóin
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clidd, scum just spewed u town by hard appealing to u. how do u feelGTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- DkKoba
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theyre basically saying "lol clidd has terrible reads lets pocket him rn"GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- DkKoba
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ok sorry that was probably too far but trying to get u to pull ur head out the sand and see what im seeing hereGTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- Gimli son of Glóin
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I ISO'd her again yesterday and I came out of it with an equally strong impression that she is town. And yes it'd be so much easier if she was actually playing the game but I don't think it's scummy that she isn't. I don't think this game presents a challenge for scum to come and post.In post 488, clidd wrote: I can agree on Raya/Ahsoka being on town PoE, but horsewoman is a slot that you should probably revisit, it's not someone I'm very confident about.- DkKoba
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gimli. why is clidd town to you.GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- DkKoba
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actually even better questionIn post 503, Horsewoman wrote:In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
the way this is my exact GtH solve rnIn post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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