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[Noraa]

He's doing the "Ik all of y'all have been voicing suspicions here but just recently I figured it out so lets kill her"

[Noraa]

@Insano it’s possible the Scum shot Johnny thinking that plus might shoot there. plus had announced that they would shoot Johnny earlier in D2, and they might have been aiming to (i) discredit the Vig Claim (by having the shots overlap) while taking out a PR. You’ll also notice that Johnny was questioning the shellyc/Noraa slot. This is obviously sub-optimal as you and I have separately indicated, but it’s what makes most sense. I also don’t think you ever use your Role to protect Johnny there.

If you take what’s happened thus far as sufficiently strong evidence that Flavor is Town, then you should consider why Noraa continues to cast shade in that direction. That’s the one thing I would ask you to look at more closely.

is casting shade on someone that's rubbing in my face their join date and how amazing they are a strange thing?

[Noraa]

Pulling petty shit like that is rude as hell and made me extremely angry. I have every right to believe he might be scum gassing me up.

[Andresvmb]

I’m not buddying anybody. I’m making my points and appealing directly to Insanoflex to evaluate what I’m saying.

Your meta arguments about yourself are worthless. That’s why I haven’t addressed them. I can also say “I would never defend my Partner so openly and brazenly so near an execution as Scum”, and you would have no way of really knowing for sure.

[Noraa]

Checking in. Today is my daughters 8th birthday.
I'm straight up vanilla town.
again.
Post more later

Happy bday to your daughter. you were second in line but eh.

[Noraa]

Probably the vigilante and mafia targeted the same person

or they targeted a bp :O
I think that's it for possibilities
Doc and RBer aren't possible otherwise we would've had a guilty.

[Andresvmb]

@Insano it’s possible the Scum shot Johnny thinking that plus might shoot there. plus had announced that they would shoot Johnny earlier in D2, and they might have been aiming to (i) discredit the Vig Claim (by having the shots overlap) while taking out a PR. You’ll also notice that Johnny was questioning the shellyc/Noraa slot. This is obviously sub-optimal as you and I have separately indicated, but it’s what makes most sense. I also don’t think you ever use your Role to protect Johnny there.

If you take what’s happened thus far as sufficiently strong evidence that Flavor is Town, then you should consider why Noraa continues to cast shade in that direction. That’s the one thing I would ask you to look at more closely.

if they wanted to cast doubt on plus, nokill would be the choice

Perhaps. But you run the risk that plus hits Scum and you’ve wasted a potential NK. Which is why it wasn’t done.

[Noraa]

There’s also no proof that Insaneo is in the neighborhood, keep that in mind. If he is scum, he was scum with Nopoint and would know everything in the neighborhood.

disagree. I think its very telling that he said nopo called me and flavor scum. that seems to match up well with what I imagined this neighborhood to be like. I thought there might be more pocketing considering nopo wanted to link Johnny and himself as a vote block ... and it did work.

also if Johnny had neighborized someone else, Insano would get exposed. I think if he's scum, the only possibility is that scum RBed Johnny to make sure there is no cc.

I'm going to revisit Johnnys end of the day posts bc he might've dropped us some hints on who he was gonna neighborize.

[Noraa]

I’m not buddying anybody. I’m making my points and appealing directly to Insanoflex to evaluate what I’m saying.

Your meta arguments about yourself are worthless. That’s why I haven’t addressed them. I can also say “I would never defend my Partner so openly and brazenly so near an execution as Scum”, and you would have no way of really knowing for sure.

I said my scum game is good. You say this piece of shit play here is my scum game which is offensive as hell considering my most recent scum game was a flawless win where I was UTR throughout. I know how to make people like me. I know how to pocket and buddy. Why am I not doing it here? Because I'm town.

Scum games don't just downgrade this much in this short of a time.

[Andresvmb]

I’m sorry but that’s not how it works.

[Noraa]

Yes it is. I always die as town for bad play. I always die as scum by the last poe or mech.

[Andresvmb]

Except you’re not trying to sort me at all, have tried to bury me, and are doing your best to survive above anything else.

What has happened in other games is illuminating in perhaps understanding how you approach the role of Town or Scum, but the actual outcome is not.

[Andresvmb]

I would also note that you replaced into a slot with a certain game state already built in, with various Claims and a limited pool. It’s not like any Scum would have a tremendous amount of options.

[Noraa]

newbie 2027 (eliminated day 3, mafia goon, scum lose) -

LAST SCUM STANDING; POED

(replaced in for nepenthe) newbie 2028 (eliminated day 3, mafia goon, scum lose) -

LAST SCUM STANDING; POED

mini 2168 (eliminated day 2, mafia doctor, scum lose) -

GUILTIED

mini 2170 (eliminated day 2, town checker, town lose) -

MOST IMPORTANT PR IN THE GAME LIMMED DAY 2

(replaced in for sesq) open 796 (eliminated day 1, vanilla townie or villager, town win) -

ELIMMED RIGHT AFTER REP IN

large theme death curse (eliminated day 6, mafia goon, scum lose) -

SOLO CARRIED FROM DAY 2(I think?) ON

mini 2174 (lived til the end, mafia goon, scum win) -

FLAWLESS WIN

(chaos triforce) open 800 (eliminated day 2, vanilla townie, town win) -

FLASHWAGON

(kookiemonster) micro 981 (eliminated day 1, town ensign roleblocker, town lose) -

LOLHAMMERED RBER ON DAY 1

(noraas bakery) micro 989 (lived til the end, mafia goon, scum win) -

FLAWLESS WIN

[Noraa]

Sure the above is cherrypicked to some extent but that is all of my scum games except 2 unless I counted wrong.
One of which was bus service
the other which is xenoblade.
both are special situations that don't need to be mentioned.

[Noraa]

The town games are slightly cherrypicked bc I used to have calmer town games. Lately been raging a ton so I'm also much more short lived.

[Noraa]

I would also note that you replaced into a slot with a certain game state already built in, with various Claims and a limited pool. It’s not like any Scum would have a tremendous amount of options.

pfft.

[Andresvmb]

I don’t understand why you’re insisting on making an argument about your results, when it’s pointless. Why don’t you try and defend your positions in this game. Like why is Flavor Scum outside of them “gaslighting” you? Why are you shading Dunn’s claim? Is that extending to a potential read of Not_Mafia? You said you had “no read” of Insanoflex, yet you say I’m buddying them. How can you be so sure?

[Noraa]

Just checked Johnnys iso. he didnt leave us clues.

[Noraa]

I don’t understand why you’re insisting on making an argument about your results, when it’s pointless. Why don’t you try and defend your positions in this game. Like why is Flavor Scum outside of them “gaslighting” you? Why are you shading Dunn’s claim? Is that extending to a potential read of Not_Mafia? You said you had “no read” of Insanoflex, yet you say I’m buddying them. How can you be so sure?

well when someone goes from "ur scum" to "lets wagon this together" ....

Dunn has done literally nothing and I am currently not caught up or planning to. I don't see why I have to accept it?

Flavor is not scum for anything but gaslighting. He's tunneled which is a town tell for him but for a 2017 join date, I do think he should be able to advance his scum game enough to do some tunneling?

[Noraa]

I've been last scum standing in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY SCUM GAMES except two. one where I got guilted night 1(ironically it was for being too towny. I was guilted by weak fn who crumbed their visit to their top TR Noraa really hard)
the other was xenoblade where the players were all incredible and never had a single mislim all game long. I died for trying to save a buddy too obviously day 1.

[Noraa]

Stats don't lie. My scum game is good. This is not it.

[Andresvmb]

Insanoflex is still voting me. I was trying to get them to understand my perspective. If Insano chooses not to do that, then that’s on them. I’m also not appealing to Insanoflex to vote with me. Unless you can point to a post I made where I ask Insano to vote you, that’s just a fabrication.

“Dunn has done literally nothing” is a hilarious statement. They’ve cleared Not_Mafia. They’re either both Scum (highly unlikely), Dunn is a Town Cop and has actually checked Not_Mafia (most likely), or Dunn is Scum and is clearing Not_Mafia (not particularly likely, but sure could be the case). You can also go actually read Dunn’s positions and make some sort of coherent argument, instead of whatever nonsense you just posted.

[Andresvmb]

I've been last scum standing in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY SCUM GAMES except two. one where I got guilted night 1(ironically it was for being too towny. I was guilted by weak fn who crumbed their visit to their top TR Noraa really hard)
the other was xenoblade where the players were all incredible and never had a single mislim all game long. I died for trying to save a buddy too obviously day 1.

So... you haven’t been the last Scum standing in every game then.

[Flavor Leaf]

2017 join date

2014 actually, this was an alt.