TENET - Game Over

[Bell]

I don't wanna be that guy, but this isn't a good post.

Am I wrong though?

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I'm a town doctor, that doesn't change based on titus's flip.

[Spiffeh]

Gonna wait for the other thread to give the ok before hammering but I am READY

[Brian Skies]

If Titus is somehow just incredibly wrong town here, then I will take all the blame for it. But I definitely won't apologize for it.

I just feel like she has to be scum here.

[Spiffeh]

I am probably going to hammer soon I am ready for this day to be over

Titus' crusade against Brian is so unbelievable to me that it transcends ~moonlogic~

Titus picked me as a mason in Titus vs. Alisae specifically because she knows I can talk her off a ledge when I think she's wrong and I think my reach out to her would have made her reconsider AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT if she were town here. Her refusal to acknowledge my reasons and instead doubling down make me think she's more concerned with pushing her agenda than getting this lim right

I think her explanations for her read shifts (mainly on me and Muffin) are bad and I don't see a world where Titus suddenly stops being paranoid of me for the reasons she has stated

The Lover claim changes nothing for me.

There's also the fact that I continue to question the accuracy of my PoE pool because I feel like Brian and Muffin really towned it up today (and Hench Princesses but to a lesser extent) and my uncertainty there probably means one of my hard town reads is just scum

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[Titus]

If Titus is somehow just incredibly wrong town here, then I will take all the blame for it. But I definitely won't apologize for it.

I just feel like she has to be scum here.

Right. No one is to blame for eliminating town with the right answer.

At least the other thread listened and we'll get scum there today.

I'll come back tonight with the answer and then be done with this game.

[Brian Skies]

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I'm a town doctor, that doesn't change based on titus's flip.

Maybe.

I guess I'm just hoping Titus is last scum here. And your positioning around our 1v1 makes me uncomfortable.

[Bell]

I see a lot of questions that come up to me based on those posts.


You're arguing her reasoning is flawed, and Dandlion is picking at the edges.

I don't understand her motivation for pushing like this.

I fundamentally disagree that she was in a position to take this measure.

I think S_S does not take this tack as scum, I think she got him on board.
I think they might not have agreed because Titus is quite strong headed and moves quickly to make decisions sometimes.

[Brian Skies]

I think S_S does not take this tack as scum, I think she got him on board.
I think they might not have agreed because Titus is quite strong headed and moves quickly to make decisions sometimes.

I don't understand this.

[Titus]

I am probably going to hammer soon I am ready for this day to be over

Titus' crusade against Brian is so unbelievable to me that it transcends ~moonlogic~

Titus picked me as a mason in Titus vs. Alisae specifically because she knows I can talk her off a ledge when I think she's wrong and I think my reach out to her would have made her reconsider AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT if she were town here. Her refusal to acknowledge my reasons and instead doubling down make me think she's more concerned with pushing her agenda than getting this lim right

I think her explanations for her read shifts (mainly on me and Muffin) are bad and I don't see a world where Titus suddenly stops being paranoid of me for the reasons she has stated

The Lover claim changes nothing for me.

There's also the fact that I continue to question the accuracy of my PoE pool because I feel like Brian and Muffin really towned it up today (and Hench Princesses but to a lesser extent) and my uncertainty there probably means one of my hard town reads is just scum

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Spoffeh,

You didn't do a reachout. You didn't discuss my reasons. You just asked but what if I was wrong.

I checked my work like 10 times. Brian just cannot be town here.

The only reason I am on a ledge is because you don't agree.

I laid out why no one else could be scum. I got crickets from you.

I cannot win a 7 v 1. BS has allies in the other thread that I don't.

I can be assured I saved Bell, so ultimately I did the right thing if we can't get Brian.

[Titus]

I can't reconsider if no one talks to me. I got spoken down to, which is a shame because y'all are wrong.

[Bell]

I don't care whether titus is right, only what it means for Titus's and your alignments, does that make sense?

I consider your cases.

I see arguments and picks at logic. etcetera.
But this isn't a debating game.

Titus could say you were scum because the moon was purple in her dreams last night.
She might have still voted scum.

My concern is whether she actually dreamt the moon was purple and whether she decided to go for a miselimination based on the moon being purple in her dreams because he seemed like a good case to scum her or whether she actually believed that because the moon was purple maybe it meant something so she decided to push etc.

[Brian Skies]

Do you think two roles that only become Lovers if they're turnstiled makes sense a TvT? S_S is claiming that if they both make it to Day 4 without turnstiling, they will remain not-lovers.

Cabd has pointed out that this doesn't make sense as a mechanic because the two players would just never agree to becoming Lovers, and town would probably not force it upon them.

[Brian Skies]

Whatever Bell.

I see what you mean, but I've pretty much lost faith in you if you're town here.

[Bell]

There is a role here that makes it so that you can trick someone into purple rooming and getting turnstiled.

[Brian Skies]

There is a role here that makes it so that you can trick someone into purple rooming and getting turnstiled.

Is there now?

[Titus]

Do you think two roles that only become Lovers if they're turnstiled makes sense a TvT? S_S is claiming that if they both make it to Day 4 without turnstiling, they will remain not-lovers.

Cabd has pointed out that this doesn't make sense as a mechanic because the two players would just never agree to becoming Lovers, and town would probably not force it upon them.

I would actually agree to it if

A) I thought SS were scum

B) I felt it was worth the risk.

Town would also do it if they thought the pairing was T v S but couldn't tell or couldn't protect a town lover so they took a shot by moving them or both

[Bell]

Whatever Bell.

I see what you mean, but I've pretty much lost faith in you if you're town here.

Please don't actually have faith in anyone or anything. This isn't that kind of game.

[Bell]

There is a role here that makes it so that you can trick someone into purple rooming and getting turnstiled.

Is there now?

Did I misread somewhere or aren't Superbowl and Spiffeh getting swapped out tonight?

[Spiffeh]

Titus I did reach out and you responded with more of the same and didn't adequately address my concerns for why your theory was probably incorrect

I read over your reasons for townreading everyone else and I am not thrilled many of them

town!Titus does not write Muffin off for ONE post that sounded good

You are pushing an agenda instead of LISTENING to all of the players you supposedly town read that are explaining why you're wrong

If you have more words to say I'll let you say them tonight of course but at this point I'm at such a loss in this thread that I just want the Day to end rather than risking this somehow turning around on one of my town reads

[Brian Skies]

There is a role here that makes it so that you can trick someone into purple rooming and getting turnstiled.

Is there now?

Did I misread somewhere or aren't Superbowl and Spiffeh getting swapped out tonight?

That's not a role.

That's just how the Purple Room mechanic works.

[Bell]

Oh.
Was that mentioned?

[Brian Skies]

And they supposedly don't have to follow through with it.

[Brian Skies]

Oh.
Was that mentioned?

Yes.

[Bell]

If one says no, do they both not get to go?

[Brian Skies]

Seeing as how the turnstile requires the player's approval, I'd like to think it applies to the Purple Room as well.