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[Andresvmb]

Except you can’t possibly have been surprised by Not_Mafia’s vote unless you’ve been living under a rock. So your reaction could be seen as having knowledge of what Noraa will flip.

[Andresvmb]

Yeah there was Scum on the wagon alright. It’s not likely to have been the very first vote though on a successful wagon.

Vote count 2.final

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-12-28 12:19:38).

elimination

2. Andresvmb [0]:

3. unwnd [1]:

geraintm#1667

4. Flavor Leaf [0]:

5. Insanoflex [1]:

Andresvmb#1656

6. Noraa [1]:

nopointinactingup#1344

7. PlusJOYED [0]:

8. Not_Mafia [0]:

9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:

10. geraintm [0]:

11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:

12. Dunnstral [0]:

13. nopointinactingup [7 - HAMMER!]:

PlusJOYED#1292, Insanoflex#1577, unwnd#1650, Flavor Leaf#1668, Noraa#1674, JohnnyFarrar#1684, Not_Mafia#1708

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [2]:

Dunnstral#1418, TheFuzzyLogic99#1564

mod notes

~ I mistaken counted Not_Mafia's vote in 1558 as on unwnd, when it was actually on nopointinactingup. It will be treated in the vote log as a vote for unwnd, sorry for the confusion.
~ unwnd V/LA
~ TheFuzzyLogic99 V/LA through Christmas

Spoiler: vote log

Day 2 vote log

Post 681: PlusJOYED votes nopointinactingup
Post 682: Andresvmb votes Noraa
Post 685: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup
Post 701: JohnnyFarrar votes Noraa
Post 705: Dunnstral votes Flavor Leaf
Post 715: Flavor Leaf votes unwnd
Post 744: Noraa votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 751: nopointinactingup votes Flavor Leaf
Post 812: Dunnstral votes Insanoflex
Post 835: JohnnyFarrar votes Insanoflex
Post 837: Noraa votes geraintm
Post 841: Not_Mafia votes Noraa
Post 843: nopointinactingup votes Insanoflex
Post 845: Noraa votes Not_Mafia
Post 859: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unwnd
Post 864: Flavor Leaf votes Insanoflex
Post 865: Flavor Leaf votes unwnd
Post 877: Insanoflex votes nopointinactingup
Post 885: geraintm votes nopointinactingup
Post 898: geraintm votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 938: PlusJOYED votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 943: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unvote
Post 959: Insanoflex votes unwnd
Post 961: unwnd votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1068: Noraa votes Flavor Leaf
Post 1086: Flavor Leaf votes Noraa
Post 1212: Insanoflex votes Noraa
Post 1263: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes Insanoflex
Post 1289: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1290: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes nopointinactingup
Post 1292: PlusJOYED votes nopointinactingup
Post 1316: Flavor Leaf votes nopointinactingup
Post 1344: nopointinactingup votes Noraa
Post 1360: Noraa votes nopointinactingup
Post 1415: unwnd votes unvote
Post 1417: Insanoflex votes unvote
Post 1418: Dunnstral votes unvote
Post 1444: Insanoflex votes unwnd
Post 1483: geraintm votes unvote
Post 1522: Noraa votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1558: Not_Mafia votes unwnd
Post 1564: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unvote
Post 1577: Insanoflex votes nopointinactingup
Post 1587: Flavor Leaf votes Noraa
Post 1613: JohnnyFarrar votes Noraa
Post 1615: unwnd votes Andresvmb
Post 1626: Andresvmb votes nopointinactingup
Post 1644: Andresvmb votes TheFuzzyLogic99
Post 1650: unwnd votes nopointinactingup
Post 1656: Andresvmb votes Insanoflex
Post 1667: geraintm votes unwnd
Post 1668: Flavor Leaf votes nopointinactingup
Post 1674: Noraa votes nopointinactingup
Post 1684: JohnnyFarrar votes nopointinactingup
Post 1708: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup

He was the last lol

I was expecting this reaction.

Go back and check. Not_Mafia was there first. Their vote was miscounted, and so they re-voted as the hammer.

[unwnd]

The knowledge is right there man

Go look at Noraa's post and self-vote, that is not a position scum make down to 2 members with a vig, cop, cop clear check, and two other claimed PRs. This is even outside of Noraa herself, I'm not sure why you're attributing TMI given your reaction to the hammer was not 'she's gonna flip scum' just a passive 'fuck you ur terrible you deserved this' nonsense

[unwnd]

Yeah there was Scum on the wagon alright. It’s not likely to have been the very first vote though on a successful wagon.

Vote count 2.final

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-12-28 12:19:38).

elimination

2. Andresvmb [0]:

3. unwnd [1]:

geraintm#1667

4. Flavor Leaf [0]:

5. Insanoflex [1]:

Andresvmb#1656

6. Noraa [1]:

nopointinactingup#1344

7. PlusJOYED [0]:

8. Not_Mafia [0]:

9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:

10. geraintm [0]:

11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:

12. Dunnstral [0]:

13. nopointinactingup [7 - HAMMER!]:

PlusJOYED#1292, Insanoflex#1577, unwnd#1650, Flavor Leaf#1668, Noraa#1674, JohnnyFarrar#1684, Not_Mafia#1708

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [2]:

Dunnstral#1418, TheFuzzyLogic99#1564

mod notes

~ I mistaken counted Not_Mafia's vote in 1558 as on unwnd, when it was actually on nopointinactingup. It will be treated in the vote log as a vote for unwnd, sorry for the confusion.
~ unwnd V/LA
~ TheFuzzyLogic99 V/LA through Christmas

Spoiler: vote log

Day 2 vote log

Post 681: PlusJOYED votes nopointinactingup
Post 682: Andresvmb votes Noraa
Post 685: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup
Post 701: JohnnyFarrar votes Noraa
Post 705: Dunnstral votes Flavor Leaf
Post 715: Flavor Leaf votes unwnd
Post 744: Noraa votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 751: nopointinactingup votes Flavor Leaf
Post 812: Dunnstral votes Insanoflex
Post 835: JohnnyFarrar votes Insanoflex
Post 837: Noraa votes geraintm
Post 841: Not_Mafia votes Noraa
Post 843: nopointinactingup votes Insanoflex
Post 845: Noraa votes Not_Mafia
Post 859: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unwnd
Post 864: Flavor Leaf votes Insanoflex
Post 865: Flavor Leaf votes unwnd
Post 877: Insanoflex votes nopointinactingup
Post 885: geraintm votes nopointinactingup
Post 898: geraintm votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 938: PlusJOYED votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 943: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unvote
Post 959: Insanoflex votes unwnd
Post 961: unwnd votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1068: Noraa votes Flavor Leaf
Post 1086: Flavor Leaf votes Noraa
Post 1212: Insanoflex votes Noraa
Post 1263: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes Insanoflex
Post 1289: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1290: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes nopointinactingup
Post 1292: PlusJOYED votes nopointinactingup
Post 1316: Flavor Leaf votes nopointinactingup
Post 1344: nopointinactingup votes Noraa
Post 1360: Noraa votes nopointinactingup
Post 1415: unwnd votes unvote
Post 1417: Insanoflex votes unvote
Post 1418: Dunnstral votes unvote
Post 1444: Insanoflex votes unwnd
Post 1483: geraintm votes unvote
Post 1522: Noraa votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 1558: Not_Mafia votes unwnd
Post 1564: TheFuzzyLogic99 votes unvote
Post 1577: Insanoflex votes nopointinactingup
Post 1587: Flavor Leaf votes Noraa
Post 1613: JohnnyFarrar votes Noraa
Post 1615: unwnd votes Andresvmb
Post 1626: Andresvmb votes nopointinactingup
Post 1644: Andresvmb votes TheFuzzyLogic99
Post 1650: unwnd votes nopointinactingup
Post 1656: Andresvmb votes Insanoflex
Post 1667: geraintm votes unwnd
Post 1668: Flavor Leaf votes nopointinactingup
Post 1674: Noraa votes nopointinactingup
Post 1684: JohnnyFarrar votes nopointinactingup
Post 1708: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup

He was the last lol

I was expecting this reaction.

Go back and check. Not_Mafia was there first. Their vote was miscounted, and so they re-voted as the hammer.

I'm not sure where the difference applies. N_M has 0 readable content outside of votes

[Andresvmb]

The self-vote obviously gave me pause. But my reaction wasn’t to assume anything. It was just surprise at the quickness of the elimination. You went for the immediate discredit.

[unwnd]

Insano resolves himself over the night. I need to think about a few things.

[unwnd]

The self-vote obviously gave me pause. But my reaction wasn’t to assume anything. It was just surprise at the quickness of the elimination. You went for the immediate discredit.

...What discredit?

[Not_Mafia]

A) I'm not paying enough attention to have known that I was hammering
B) I would have hammered regardless
C) I always vote self-voters, including myself
D) What is the point of unwnd's grandstanding? We should probably elim unwnd tomorrow

[Andresvmb]

I’ve also been consistently (and wrongly) attacked by Noraa for like forever. Did you expect me to be like oh damn, I didn’t want that to happen? No. Of course I’m relieved Noraa is finally out of the game.

[Andresvmb]

The self-vote obviously gave me pause. But my reaction wasn’t to assume anything. It was just surprise at the quickness of the elimination. You went for the immediate discredit.

...What discredit?

Are you seriously arguing that calling someone a Godfather is not a discredit?

[unwnd]

Do you think it serves me as scum to call a clear a potential godfather? I'm not fucking stupid, I would just put my head down and pretend I didn't see it, maybe do a fist pump

I even entertained the notion earlier in my #1761 and mentioned that I was considered the possibility (and then wrote it off) until now

[Andresvmb]

I don’t know why you did it. All I know is that your reaction heavily implies that you have some knowledge of what Noraa will flip. You could have yelled at Not_Mafia for hammering out of nowhere and not giving you enough time to process the self-vote. But that’s not what you did.

[Andresvmb]

Whatever this is just a hunch. I don’t really care what plus does and frankly I don’t really care to fight much anymore. I haven’t been particularly good this game so all my views should be viewed through that lens.

[unwnd]

I can't tell if you're just pretending to not see what I've been saying or if you're being intentionally obtuse. I've tried to work with you and told you disengage from Noraa multiple times, but you kept taking the bait and now we're here.

Again, you yourself had a reaction that seemed to agree that Noraa was probably flipping town. It does not take any amount of TMI to see this

[unwnd]

My last thought I want to give on this is if you agree or disagree that at least one scum was on Nopoint's wagon, which brings me a lot more dread than I what I lead on. I have Insano's tinfoil about FL in the back of my head as well because I refuse to think that scum weren't at least somewhat self-aware of their mate's death.

[PlusJOYED]

VOTE: Noraa

woah cow

[Noraa]

Insano does resolve overnight. If he fails to protect plus, he is scum.

[Noraa]

I can't tell if you're just pretending to not see what I've been saying or if you're being intentionally obtuse. I've tried to work with you and told you disengage from Noraa multiple times, but you kept taking the bait and now we're here.

Again, you yourself had a reaction that seemed to agree that Noraa was probably flipping town. It does not take any amount of TMI to see this

+1

Andres dies tonight.

[PlusJOYED]

ehhh my vig shot is between unwnd/gera/andres regardless of flip
I can't decide really this is a hard call

[Noraa]

I stated that I felt there was potential scum on nopoint's wagon and there's no way there wasn't a mate on there, I'm considering all options instead of merely assuming. You talk about how nobody reads your posts then can't even bother to comprehend mine

this is pretty accurate.

[Not_Mafia]

Gera is town don't vig him

[PlusJOYED]

thing is, town andres does play like this and can get himself stuck in tunnels or oversights. Happened on my first game here in hedgehogs imo.
if noraa does flip green that'll mean my shelly read was on point so I'd feel uncomfortable shooting andres even though I said I would if noraa flips town.

I like my uwnd theory a lot but I'm scared a scum!andres is leading me into it as well

[Noraa]

Whatever this is just a hunch. I don’t really care what plus does and frankly I don’t really care to fight much anymore. I haven’t been particularly good this game so all my views should be viewed through that lens.

being defeatist is right. if plus is smart, he'll shoot you tonight probably with his last shot since insano probably dies tonight.

[Noraa]

ehhh my vig shot is between unwnd/gera/andres regardless of flip
I can't decide really this is a hard call

no shit sherlock. u can't shoot outside that pool.

[Noraa]

if noraa does flip green that'll mean my shelly read was on point

you voted me and therefore have no right saying this.