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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 2274, Dunnstral wrote:I do think Gera should be vigged or elimmed tomorrow
I think this is fine.
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:26 pm

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In post 2248, Insanoflex wrote:To be clear, the plan is I protect PlusJOYED and he vigs someone, right?
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:28 pm

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Before we go into night, wanted mass claim first but:

My role is Simple Cop, so I can't target people with power roles. We had a scum watcher already, I don't know if there would be a second power role for scum. I could buy one more.

Godfather isn't a normal role, by the way. And even if it was, I wouldn't be able to target him
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:29 pm

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the enabler also died tho so u can't really target anyways.
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:20 pm

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I know

I'm just outting my role for spec analysis

Whereas earlier it was a 'you guys don't need to know this' kind of thing

I wanted everyone else to claim first, but whatever
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:21 pm

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Noraa this setup wouldn't be balanced for town if I weren't town

Complex Neighbor, Loyal Bodyguard, Vigilante

Is not a balanced town setup

So you can table your suspicion

Add on that there was a literal cop enabler flip
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:22 pm

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I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm

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don't shoot insaneo tonight

bad mechanical play
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm

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Did a hammer happen? I vaguely skimmed, and feel like it might have. Catching up now.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm

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Nah, Insaneo is almost lock scum if Noraa is scum.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:24 pm

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yeah noraa is hammered
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:26 pm

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In post 2122, PlusJOYED wrote:i think i have a solve now

this is pretty speculative but nopoint saying "maf don't want to stall they want to elim townies" felt genuine to me. I think nopoint was annoyed as maf that he didnt get a mislim. This makes me think that he probably talked in maf chat about his frustration n1 and got some sort of resonance with maf. He'd probably want to push inactive maf slots to join a wagon otherwise. To me the other person most frusterated with inactivity day 1 was uwnd, so this kind of implicates him to me but the idea is a bit of a stretch.

uwnd's suggestion really pinged me. since uwnd knew I'd very likely shoot between gera and uwnd after noraa elim, he was very survivalistic for a VT suggesting that we elim gera and have me choose between andres and noraa: too much self-preservation for a VT imo.

therefore, my solve is nopoint/noraa/uwnd.

This was my solve yesterday. I’m pretty sure I was wrong.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:31 pm

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In post 2280, Dunnstral wrote:Noraa this setup wouldn't be balanced for town if I weren't town

Complex Neighbor, Loyal Bodyguard, Vigilante

Is not a balanced town setup

So you can table your suspicion

Add on that there was a literal cop enabler flip
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:32 pm

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In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
pfft now you stop tunneling?
Ok fine if {Insano, Unwnd, Andres, Geraint} are all town, its flavor, not Dunn.
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:32 pm

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In post 2282, Dunnstral wrote:don't shoot insaneo tonight

bad mechanical play
insano protects vig tonight so we don't shoot there.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 2286, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2122, PlusJOYED wrote:i think i have a solve now

this is pretty speculative but nopoint saying "maf don't want to stall they want to elim townies" felt genuine to me. I think nopoint was annoyed as maf that he didnt get a mislim. This makes me think that he probably talked in maf chat about his frustration n1 and got some sort of resonance with maf. He'd probably want to push inactive maf slots to join a wagon otherwise. To me the other person most frusterated with inactivity day 1 was uwnd, so this kind of implicates him to me but the idea is a bit of a stretch.

uwnd's suggestion really pinged me. since uwnd knew I'd very likely shoot between gera and uwnd after noraa elim, he was very survivalistic for a VT suggesting that we elim gera and have me choose between andres and noraa: too much self-preservation for a VT imo.

therefore, my solve is nopoint/noraa/uwnd.

This was my solve yesterday. I’m pretty sure I was wrong.
and you say this after I'm hammered. good timing.
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38 pm

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I just woke up, Noraa. I sleep from like 8am-4pm my time. We’ve been through this.
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 2288, Noraa wrote:
In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
pfft now you stop tunneling?
Ok fine if {Insano, Unwnd, Andres, Geraint} are all town, its flavor, not Dunn.
How is this me stopping a tunnel? We’re in twilight.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:41 pm

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Geraint or Andres get shot tonight. There are no other choices.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:43 pm

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Full disclosure, now that I’m last up.

I am an Informed townie who knows there is a vigilante enabler in the game. I think it is Insaneo. I used to think it was Unwnd, but I challenged Unwnd after I claimed, and he really didn’t understand anything, which is when my read on them started turning.

Insaneo was the one to comment on my Vigilante Enabler claim and went “i believe this because my role.” I thought they were Vig until Plusjoyed came, and then bodyguard didn’t seem like a role the necessitates Vig. On top of Nopoint trying to counterclaim me, Nopoint pushed me because he knew there was an enabler on his team that I claimed, and they chose to not counterclaim me.

Andres/Geraint could have it, but with Noraa’s post in twilight, I think scum is Noraa/Insaneo.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:44 pm

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i really think Insaneo is scum here, Dunnstral.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:46 pm

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Wait, why are you revealing at this stage that you lied about your claim? Why not wait until tomorrow? And you still think that Noraa is Scum despite the amount of drivel she’s spewed after being hammered?
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
I'm leaning unwd currently
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 2295, Flavor Leaf wrote:i really think Insaneo is scum here, Dunnstral.
no way, he's basically conftown imo
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:49 pm

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someone other than uwnd explain why uwnd is town because I haven't seen it at all
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