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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:36 pm

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I'm willing to go Oram or Lunar Martian.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:47 pm

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A votecount would be nice.

I'm doing Lunar or Bugspray today. I'm still not sold on ORAM wagon.

Bugspray's claim is more likely to be scum, I think. I absolutely do not think a Town Backup Neighbor openly specs on neighbors.

Reviewing the evidence, I'm inclined to say Bugspray is a Traitor, actually. I thjnk his open spec on neighbors makes more sense from the perspective of a Traitor with info on Neighbors/Masons in the setup.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:26 pm

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Momrangal I see what you mean and I will vote OutWorlderER tomorrow if it makes sense after we see the ORAM flip.

I understand that your logical so it's a tough sell but I believe the ORAM lynch has weird statistical reasons for being the optimal D1 lynch.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:27 pm

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I think it's important that you join the ORAM wagon because it will be a great chance to test the validity of the town block.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:31 pm

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@Gamma
I suspect it may be a scenario where the scummiest players were a combination of scum and prs and ORAM is so much more likely to be scum than a pr because AGamblingPig wouldn't have flaked if he rolled pr. On top of that both bugs and Lunar hinted very strongly they were pr, and AGamblingPig and even ORAM did not. If that wasn't enough, AGamblingPig was voting LunarMartian the whole time until ORAM came back and unvoted.
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:33 pm

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In post 926, OutWorldER wrote:A votecount would be nice.

I'm doing Lunar or Bugspray today. I'm still not sold on ORAM wagon.

Bugspray's claim is more likely to be scum, I think. I absolutely do not think a Town Backup Neighbor openly specs on neighbors.

Reviewing the evidence, I'm inclined to say Bugspray is a Traitor, actually. I thjnk his open spec on neighbors makes more sense from the perspective of a Traitor with info on Neighbors/Masons in the setup.
I think you're just not going to vote ORAM because he's your scum buddy.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:35 pm

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OutWorldER is so scum LMAO
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:35 pm

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Look at OutWorldER's iso from the perspective that ORAM is scum, NPOM is town, and Momrangel is town.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:45 pm

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In post 926, OutWorldER wrote:A votecount would be nice.

I'm doing Lunar or Bugspray today. I'm still not sold on ORAM wagon.

Bugspray's claim is more likely to be scum, I think. I absolutely do not think a Town Backup Neighbor openly specs on neighbors.

Reviewing the evidence, I'm inclined to say Bugspray is a Traitor, actually. I thjnk his open spec on neighbors makes more sense from the perspective of a Traitor with info on Neighbors/Masons in the setup.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:48 pm

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And OutWorldER is even advocating for bugspray now too who will probably flip town !!

There are already a few on ORAM, get ORAM today and OutWorldER tomorrow and track/inv Trendall. Any traitors in the town block can get flushed out by refusing to vote ORAM.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:50 pm

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I don't like voting people based on 2% chances with an ISO I don't see any agenda/fault in.

I also don't see where you get "he's my partner" from because why on earth would I go up to bat for a lurk fuck that wouldn't be helping me.

@bugs: my bad, apologies.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:54 pm

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In post 934, Frogsterking wrote:And OutWorldER is even
*advocating
for bugspray now too who will probably flip town !!

There are already a few on ORAM, get ORAM today and OutWorldER tomorrow and track/inv Trendall. Any traitors in the town block can get flushed out by refusing to vote ORAM.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:56 pm

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In post 936, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 934, Frogsterking wrote:And OutWorldER is even
*advocating
for bugspray now too who will probably flip town !!

There are already a few on ORAM, get ORAM today and OutWorldER tomorrow and track/inv Trendall. Any traitors in the town block can get flushed out by refusing to vote ORAM.
By
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In post 935, OutWorldER wrote:I don't like voting people based on 2% chances with an ISO I don't see any agenda/fault in.

*I also don't see where you get "he's my partner" from because why on earth would I go up to bat for a lurk fuck that wouldn't be helping me.


@bugs: my bad, apologies.
*Now the mysterious OutWorldER can be observed raging about his scum partner who he blames for his loss, because OutWorldER knows after ORAM is lynched and Trendall is investigated the game is most likely autoloss.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:00 pm

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In post 936, Frogsterking wrote: gaslighting outspoken town players like Momrangal and NPOM
i don't think that word means what you think it means.

your also being a real dickhead right now. you are also dodging the actual points I'm making and making no effort to actually engage me in good faith.
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:02 pm

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In post 938, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 936, Frogsterking wrote: gaslighting outspoken town players like Momrangal and NPOM
i don't think that word means what you think it means.

your also being a real dickhead right now. you are also dodging the actual points I'm making and making no effort to actually engage me in good faith.
No you're the dickhead because you're trying to kill all the town players.

And if I can define gaslighting will you vote ORAM?
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:15 pm

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i'm a dick for pushing my reads, good to know.

and the answer is no. maybe if ORAM is the only wagon at E-1 and there's only like 3 hours remaining. But i'm more confident in Bugs/Lunar.

this is also the 2nd time I've noticed this game you've tried to bully people into doing what you want. The first time was with NPOM in . Not sure if it's AI for you because you seem incredibly sure of yourself to an almost insufferable degree.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:17 pm

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In post 940, OutWorldER wrote:i'm a dick for pushing my reads, good to know.

*and the answer is no.
maybe if ORAM is the only wagon at E-1 and there's only like 3 hours remaining. But i'm more confident in Bugs/Lunar.

this is also the 2nd time I've noticed this game you've tried to bully people into doing what you want. The first time was with NPOM in . Not sure if it's AI for you because you seem incredibly sure of yourself to an almost insufferable degree.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:19 pm

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I haven’t really caught up yet, but I’m willing to go along with this.

VOTE: ORAM
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:40 pm

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In post 927, Frogsterking wrote:I understand that your logical so it's a tough sell but I believe the ORAM lynch has weird statistical reasons for being the optimal D1 lynch.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:41 pm

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What's the count on ORAM
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:49 pm

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It's at four I think but maybe more, it has Grendel, myself, Luca, and bugs. NPOM and Galreon have also expressed interest in voting ORAM.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:53 pm

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VOTE: ORAM

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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 872, Frogsterking wrote:There's a little voice inside my head that's talking me into hammering bugs.
What personality type is it?
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:39 pm

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In post 947, Trendall wrote:
In post 872, Frogsterking wrote:There's a little voice inside my head that's talking me into hammering bugs.
What personality type is it?
Yours?
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:03 pm

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In post 928, Frogsterking wrote:
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I think it's important that you join the ORAM wagon because it will be a great chance to test the validity of the town block.
In post 929, Frogsterking wrote:
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I suspect it may be a scenario where the scummiest players were a combination of scum and prs and ORAM is so much more likely to be scum than a pr because AGamblingPig wouldn't have flaked if he rolled pr. On top of that both bugs and Lunar hinted very strongly they were pr, and AGamblingPig and even ORAM did not. If that wasn't enough, AGamblingPig was voting LunarMartian the whole time until ORAM came back and unvoted.
yeah, I had AGP in a gae I recently modded and while he was lurky he did not flake out despite being VT. So if that's what he was like as VT I think this play makes more sense as scum vs. town PR
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