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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:56 am

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Thanks, I now see it with that post and the help of additional context prior. I had picked up the protective element of Cabd's side but not the jailkeep element. I...don't entirely get the first sentence of your reply "If it makes a Day 2 ticket worth it, then yeah." but I'm willing to accept that even if you are scum this probably has nothing to do with it.
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:56 am

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That’s such a beautiful plist

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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 4440, Prism wrote:Can you shed light into why you chose notsci last night?
Not much... except that notscience's alignment feels opaque?
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:59 am

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nvm I get it
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:00 am

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In post 4452, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4440, Prism wrote:Can you shed light into why you chose notsci last night?
Not much... except that notscience's alignment feels opaque?
can you please be a bit more specific? how is his alignment opaque and what did you think of other potential targets, eg. ffery/skitter/pooky
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:01 am

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In post 4448, notscience wrote:Yeah.

The only thing keeping me from voting dgb is I don’t think n o scum bussed
My voting record is a source of embarrassment, that's for sure. The crowd screams for my head to roll every day, and I'm here on my balcony eating cake and not voting for scum.
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:02 am

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Okay I read interactions w/ ffery through the 600s and I'm comfortable with them being town, last step is DGB/bork interactions but I'm already ready to speedgame.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 4454, Prism wrote:
In post 4452, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4440, Prism wrote:Can you shed light into why you chose notsci last night?
Not much... except that notscience's alignment feels opaque?
can you please be a bit more specific? how is his alignment opaque and what did you think of other potential targets, eg. ffery/skitter/pooky
Fferyllt was my second choice, I went back and forth. Pooky has been in the game long enough, he gets more readable as he game goes on. Skitter has been a monkey on my back and though I had the occasional doubt, I was close to certain she was town.

Notscience was in that not scummy and not town zone that scum likes to play in. I thought I should look there.

Why, do you have issue with my night choice?
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:09 am

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It would again be helpful if you explained why you went back and forth or why people are in these "not scummy and not town" zones over leaving them as vague as possible.

notscience helped powershove a wagon on scum Day 1. There are town reasons to be cautious despite that, but what are yours? How has what he's done factored in?
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:10 am

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I respect your ability to be short, terse, but relevant in contrast to my tendency to wall in irrelevancy, but there are times to be specific with what you're thinking and cite examples.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 1847, Syryana wrote:I'll make you a tier list:

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{skitter, you, bork}
{DGB}
{Morph, Vax}
================ Line of yeetability
{Pooky, peta, elements}
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Pedit: I think you're saying that you scumread or at least didn't townread Bulge because you thought he should be doing stuff w.r.t. you that he wasn't? Aka being weird?
I find it weird to think syry had both buddies in his townreads
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:15 am

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I am trying to find Syr scum meta with 3+ people and I am convinced he never flips scum.
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:24 am

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I can confidently say that in the year two thousand and thirteen, Syr was not above being +town on both his partners outside of a reads wall.

I know: incredibly useful, very recent and context is absolutely identical.
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:25 am

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In post 4458, Prism wrote:It would again be helpful if you explained why you went back and forth or why people are in these "not scummy and not town" zones over leaving them as vague as possible.

notscience helped powershove a wagon on scum Day 1. There are town reasons to be cautious despite that, but what are yours? How has what he's done factored in?
I didn't agonize over my choice because frankly I felt that my role is useless.

I spent so much energy fighting off misguided townies that I never garnered enough towncred to make it worthwhile for me to scum hunt. Scumhunting isn't merely about identifying scum, it's about persuasion. If you are cornered into a situation where you know you'll never persuade anyone, there's no point trying. And here we are, same thing again today. Oh look! A new day! Let's hang DGB.

You didn't answer my question, what's your issue with my choice anyway? Did it really matter?
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:27 am

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There was also a good chance that my prayers would be answered and the scum would mercifully dispatch me to the dead thread. But alas! There is no god.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:36 am

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"Did it really matter anyway?"

We literally instantly win the game if you pick correctly last night. Did you never stop to think that with two flipped goons,
maybe your role is actually really fucking useful
for finding the last?

I more just think you're scum by default+scum giving you another result is horrible EV.

I don't take major issue with your choice, but it is unexpected given your skepticism of Pooky all game. Notsci is very likely going to dodge an elim anyway this game so is a safe fakeclaim, so I want your thought process to be transparent.
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:40 am

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VOTE: dgb

Meh why not
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:41 am

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Being terse means nothing when you're completely nontransparent in your thought processes.

I'm asking you to be transparent, and the response is to flip it to me to show why your selection was scummy rather than just
showing us what you're thinking
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:50 am

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In post 4465, Prism wrote:"Did it really matter anyway?"

We literally instantly win the game if you pick correctly last night. Did you never stop to think that with two flipped goons,
maybe your role is actually really fucking useful
for finding the last?

I more just think you're scum by default+scum giving you another result is horrible EV.

I don't take major issue with your choice, but it is unexpected given your skepticism of Pooky all game. Notsci is very likely going to dodge an elim anyway this game so is a safe fakeclaim, so I want your thought process to be transparent.
No, I gave literally ZERO thought to the two goons flipping. You're imagining that I had some kind of galaxy brain thought process, when all I did was burp, pick from a limited pool, and called it a day.

I was off two scum wagons, people think my role is scum, everyone wants to kill me and no one believes me. Every goddam day is the EFFING same. To add insult to injury, scum doesn't even want to kill me.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:51 am

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UNVOTE:

I'm actually going to slow it down and take my time, I wasn't impressed with DGB's side of the bork interactions but they weren't blatantly awful, and right now I'm kind of a hyperactive jackrabbit instead of really focusing on one thing in depth at a time.
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:54 am

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Either way I doubted dgb died last night
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:55 am

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In post 4468, DrippingGoofball wrote:No, I gave literally ZERO thought to the two goons flipping. You're imagining that I had some kind of galaxy brain thought process, when all I did was burp, pick from a limited pool, and called it a day.
If you don't see the value in your role, that's on you. If I can see the value of the role, I'm pretty sure you can too.

Even if you chose willfully not to do so, I don't think it's galaxy brain to think about your night action.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:56 am

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Objectively I am a good yeet because if I'm allowed to end game, you know the other townie is going to vote me in their first post and it's game over.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 4471, Prism wrote:If you don't see the value in your role, that's on you. If I can see the value of the role, I'm pretty sure you can too.
I can check one might out of two if someone is lying about having, or not having a PR.

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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:58 am

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notscience is conftown. You're not happy about that outcome?
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