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Post Post #5600 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:33 pm

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In post 5598, superbowl9 wrote:??? Why not? Give scum 1-shot whatever abilities and let them decide when to use it does not seem at all unbalanced especially in a game with this much town power.

You're focusing a lot on setup spec but do you have reads that don't stem from this stuff?
So you think Cakez just gives town a bunch of gated roles and lets scum take as many actions as they want? I don't buy it.
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Post Post #5601 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 5599, superbowl9 wrote:Why? Seems like an unnecessary risk and TMI leak from scum
Because I didn't see a reason to think that and I thought it could've just been him introducing random paranoia in the thread as scum when we didn't need it.
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Post Post #5602 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm

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I've been townreading him otherwise, but I definitely didn't like that comment.
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Post Post #5603 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 5600, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 5598, superbowl9 wrote:??? Why not? Give scum 1-shot whatever abilities and let them decide when to use it does not seem at all unbalanced especially in a game with this much town power.

You're focusing a lot on setup spec but do you have reads that don't stem from this stuff?
So you think Cakez just gives town a bunch of gated roles and lets scum take as many actions as they want? I don't buy it.
No you limit scum's power to X-shot but allowing them to do it all in one night or spread it out doesn't really seem relevant to me - like using a bunch of powers night 1 isn't even necessarily good compared to spreading it out. Just so happens IC activated D1
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Post Post #5604 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 5601, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 5599, superbowl9 wrote:Why? Seems like an unnecessary risk and TMI leak from scum
Because I didn't see a reason to think that and I thought it could've just been him introducing random paranoia in the thread as scum when we didn't need it.
Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
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Post Post #5605 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:36 pm

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I feel like you're just trying to shoehorn the setup-spec to fit whatever it is you're trying to push.
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Post Post #5606 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:37 pm

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In post 5604, superbowl9 wrote:Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
Because we have no idea if it's true and it just creates pointless discussions and makes it look like he's/other people are doing something.
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Post Post #5607 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:38 pm

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Like, the answer to every questioned scumread shouldn't be 'well I think he could just be a JOAT.'
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Post Post #5608 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 5605, Brian Skies wrote:I feel like you're just trying to shoehorn the setup-spec to fit whatever it is you're trying to push.
Ditto. I honestly don't think there's a problem with multiple 1-shot actions not having a day restriction is almost like the default thing you would do. Either way I'm saying you're setup specing too much, what reason has dunn given outside of setup to earn a TR?
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Post Post #5609 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 5606, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 5604, superbowl9 wrote:Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
Because we have no idea if it's true and it just creates pointless discussions and makes it look like he's/other people are doing something.
Idk I don't agree with this. Like if I'm scum I would never say something like this
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Post Post #5610 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 5607, Brian Skies wrote:Like, the answer to every questioned scumread shouldn't be 'well I think he could just be a JOAT.'
That's not my answer though lol, I'm saying his role is just red. You're the one saying there's no way scum could have 2 1-shot abilities used on the same night(???)
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Post Post #5611 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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Haven’t we already gone over that you and I approach the game in vastly different ways
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Post Post #5612 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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So you don't think Notty is scum then?

Which means you think Notty is probably telling the truth about Dunn N1, which makes Dunn less likely to be the scum based on the Bell-IC interaction, yeah?
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Post Post #5613 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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I mean I can vote you again if you want annie :lol:
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Post Post #5614 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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In post 5612, Brian Skies wrote:So you don't think Notty is scum then?

Which means you think Notty is probably telling the truth about Dunn N1, which makes Dunn less likely to be the scum based on the Bell-IC interaction, yeah?
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Post Post #5615 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:43 pm

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Okay, let's say scum could have Neighborized + Strongman shot N1.

Then why did Notty's result only track Dunn to Cabd instead of Cabd+Imperium?
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Post Post #5616 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:44 pm

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Notty is Annie.
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Post Post #5617 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:44 pm

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Because Dunn’s clearly a strongman ninja neighborizer bulletproof
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Post Post #5618 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:45 pm

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I think annie could be scum. Either way I think it's either T/T or one's scum, but if they're both town I don't see anywhere else scum could really be besides bell. But what bell/IC interaction are you talking about?
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Post Post #5619 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:46 pm

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Is there a particular reason you're just ignoring HP?
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Post Post #5620 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 5615, Brian Skies wrote:Okay, let's say scum could have Neighborized + Strongman shot N1.

Then why did Notty's result only track Dunn to Cabd instead of Cabd+Imperium?
Only 1 scum does the kill no? And dunn clearly isn't strongman neighborizor. So another scum with a strongman did the kill, dunn neighborized. This doesn't really seem complicated to me
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Post Post #5621 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:47 pm

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In post 5619, Brian Skies wrote:Is there a particular reason you're just ignoring HP?
I'm not I'm townreading them pretty hard
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Post Post #5622 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:47 pm

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I'm just referring to Bell claiming to protect the IC and the IC dying anyway.
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Post Post #5623 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:49 pm

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Yeah so how does any of that make dunn less likely scum? He is confirmed neighborizer, which we know he used N1. Another scum has strongman, they killed imperium. How is that complicated/implausible?
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Post Post #5624 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:50 pm

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Of course dunn is not the strongman lol why would that be the case
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