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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It also makes a lot of sense with the Skitter-shot because Skitter was like the only person in the game who really was digging there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like rereading Day 3 if you start fiery ISO from here:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=400

she's like all about defending bork until the wagon is L-1 and its inevitable and suddenly its wall drop time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fiery I will be so sad if you are scum here

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vote Count 4.2

Larry Bird, Indiana State 1976-1979

It is now day 4 which ends in (expired on 2021-01-11 16:34:32).
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate

DrippingGoofball(3): Prism, DrippingGoofball, Benhalkum
Prism(1): Vaxkiller
Not Voting(3): fferyllt, PookyTheMagicalBear, notscience

[fferyllt]

like rereading Day 3 if you start fiery ISO from here:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=400

she's like all about defending bork until the wagon is L-1 and its inevitable and suddenly its wall drop time

I don't remember defending bork?

Fiery I will be so sad if you are scum here

you won't be sad. I may be though.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can write you some really good fan fiction to cheer you up tho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

urge to burn.

and I want to believe pooky's town.

I will be sad because I thought we had a little moment here where you saw my heart and decided I was good but I am now worried it was more of you re-positioning for Post-Bork Flip

It wasn't so much an explicit defense of Bork as much as you were somewhat poking at other areas half-heartedly and then rotated to hit him with a wall when it became an inevitability.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because nobody agrees with anything I think and two of my favorite people are scumreading me and I have this sinking feeling a third one is about to and I've no idea how I've managed this

may or may not be on my third glass of wine

I’m talking about this one

It’s EXPLICITLY to guilt her away from voting

Or it's to give her town-cred for pushing through the AtE and killing him.

[Vaxkiller]

I feel like I remember ffrly using that phrase a couple times? Let me check. Like, after the initial day 1 high energy, no one has had any urge to do anything.

[Vaxkiller]

I see "Rising" and think "Urge to burn".

urge to burn.

and I want to believe pooky's town.

I dont get where the urge to burn came from?

And i suppose i wont get a truthful answer out of this, but eh: does scum!you kill town!cabd who is townreading you?

Stuff's been bothering me off and on since day 1 and I keep thinking we're going to have an exchange where I suddenly and clearly see town-bork. This is all stuff he's been aware of, so I don't think I'm giving up any advantage in the meta arms race. Stuff he doesn't know (yet) about the evolution of my approach to reading him is not not making it into this wall.

He knows that a lot of my reads of him are based on how he reacts to being pressured. I express those reactions as "irritability", because that's what they look like to me. The underlying emotions may be something else, but to me, that's how they appear from the outside.

Most of his strong reactions, particularly to Prism are in town-bork range by that measure.

His reactions to me expressing concerns about him, not so much.

The difficulty here is that I was town against scum-him in the illicit game and he was close enough to my expectations of town-him that I kept shrugging off my concerns. And I was giving him plenty of info to figure what what was missing. Cabd and I were hydra-ing as morph in that game and his read went south well before mine did. And when my read did go south, zmuffin had a winning strategy planned out, and we followed the strategy, though acquiescing to our own elim the day before mxlo was not fun and not something I want to repeat!

In that game, he would jump on something that looked inconsistent and really go at us (usually me) until he was satisfied with the answer. This is sort of how our T-T interactions would go in the before-times. But, in those games, I knew precisely what allayed his suspicions and why he would back off. In the illicit game, there wasn't that kind of line-of-sight between the cause of his suspicions and the resolution of them. I was left feeling like he was basically reading me off of emotional reactions to his pushes, which was NOT how he read when we used to play together.

In this game, I've done my best not to give him emotional content to "sign off" on. And he's not pushed me very hard about my vaguely expressed concerns, especially after day 1.

I feel like I sort of launched this approach to reading him almost from the beginning, though I didn't come into the game with this as a plan for sorting him. And I also haven't pursued it as strongly as I should have, especially day 2.

The proximate cause of my urge is post 4091. In the context of how I think he reads me, and how I know he expects me to read him, that response looks so anemic. I've been mulling over it and second guessing myself, but this is where I want to vote today.


Re me killing Cabd as scum. It's been a really long time since I've been scum against town-him. In one game I didn't nk him. In the other, I nk'd him on night 5, I think. He'd claimed even night vig and we couldn't risk him getting to another even night no matter what his reads of the remaining scum were. At that point, I may have been the last scum. There was a 3rd game but I was the day one elim in that one, and he was an unknown quantity. I would have focused on known threats if I hadn't been elimed before the first night phase.

What would I do in Year of our Lord 2020? I think it would depend on how long I thought I could maintain his townread.

This does seem over explained.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: fferyllt

[fferyllt]

if I were scum I could have easily justified hammering DGB yesterday.

[notscience]

I think it’s weird the chocolate bear is cherry picking skitters iso

[Vaxkiller]

if I were scum I would have _____

[Prism]

Look if this is wrong you can have my head on a pile and then go whoever you want, it's fine.

[Vaxkiller]

I get it! DGB's role is really scummy, not much of a reason for town to have it, but I also don't get super scum vibes from them. Self voting right now? Why not just concede?

But prism, the way your role has been presented, as first a BP, then a doc? Yuck.

[notscience]

why

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I guess im a sucker for AtE but i dont think goofball asks me if there's candy inside booork if he's her scummate

[notscience]

do you think scum have a PR?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm just examining everyone's play and I can see Fiery being the last scum.

I did not like her ISO where she goes from 0->90 on Bork right as he gets run up.

[fferyllt]

I was right but I was still too conflicted to just vote him. :/

[Prism]

I will again deal with this if we have to tomorrow.

Ffery, are you thinking it's Vax/Pooky?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Your trajectory on Bork is strange.

I re-read D3 and it's like:

3944 Skitter V1 on Bork (12/21 -747PM)
4010 Pooky V2 on Bork (12/21 -1149PM)
4084 Fiery interacts with Bork about "reading her off interactions" (12/22 400AM)
4094 Ben V3 on Bork (12/22 717 AM)
4097 "There is a distinct lack of Vax today" - Fiery (12/22 601PM)
4118 DGB V4 on Bork (12/22 920PM) E-1
4123 "urge to burn." - Fiery (12/22 928PM)
4133 Wall of Death on Bork - Fiery (12/22 1042PM)



It feels convenient and the timing does not feel natural for that conviction to develop suddenly.

[Vaxkiller]

why

With everyone else claiming and outed, they were protecting that role? I dunno. not sci, your great, but anyone and thier mother could have seen cabd was going to die last night.

[Vaxkiller]

do you think scum have a PR?

More than likely they have SOMETHING, even if its not claimed here.