TENET - Game Over

[Bell]

I guess I'm vying for the position of 'best reads on loss' at this point.
@_@
So far, I'm behind because of my shellyc tunnel.

[Gypyx]

hey still mid-catchup but i'm vt btw

[Dunnstral]

dunn do you have any theory about why your role is in the game?

I don't know, but I have theories behind how I'm using my role

I don't think this line of thinking leads anywhere

[Dunnstral]

I mean can we get a breakdown of like how dandelion wine is in these hoods? And like what setup info you know/were talking about

Alright, sure.

Dandelion Wine is what I expect from town them in a hood, more actually since they appear to be playing their heart out in the hood. This matches what I know of Cabd when he is town and in a hood, and they have over 300 posts in my hood.

As for what we discuss in the hood: Reads mostly, along with setup stuff, including crumbs and whether power makes sense or not.

And I'm pretty sure they're out of their scum range with the way they are playing.

I'll go ahead and say that I neighborized Deacon Blues as well last night

Does any of this mean anything to you Annie?

[Dunnstral]

I am strongly town reading Dandelion Wine and I know both heads stated they currently have other priorities but they need to get out of the neighborhood and start doing shit in here TIA

They're not that active in the hood today either

Just so you know they're not playing in the shadows

[Dunnstral]

My Deacon Blues read:

Probably town, but not to the extent that I have Dandelion Wine as town

[Bell]

With that out of the way

VOTE: shellyCombinedmailmanvanillacop

VOTE: Purple Room - Gypyx

God i'm so fucking tired to watch at the thread, gonna sleep

[SirCakez]

Elimination Votecount 3.2

superbowl9 (2) - Brian Skies, Annie Edison
Annie Edison (1) - superbowl9

Not voting (4) - Gypyx, Dunnstral, Bell, Hench Princesses

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Turnstile Votecount 3.2

Annie Edison (1) - Dunnstral

Not voting (6) - superbowl9, Hench Princesses, Bell, Brian Skies, Gypyx, Annie Edison

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Purple Room Votecount 3.2

Not voting (7) - Dunnstral, superbowl9, Hench Princesses, Bell, Brian Skies, Gypyx, Annie Edison

(expired on 2021-01-16 22:32:00) remain until day end

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

[Hench Princesses]

hey still mid-catchup but i'm vt btw

You entered this game as a vt

But you can become the mason

You're capable of great things gx, you have to believe in yourself

You too can be a princess!

[Brian Skies]

People are gonnaa do very dumb shit and all you can do is either get angry or laugh it off and continue on. I choose laugh. I think your personal health is way more important than this games end results.

Or they can do like me and drink copious amounts of alcohol.

[Brian Skies]

my personal hypothesis is that a red flip from pooky would make it more likely that whoever the tracker sender is (which is another conversation that probably needs to happen) might be more likely to be scum by virtue of pooky knowing not to make a kill that night. this needs a red flip from pooky before i go anywhere near that path though obviously

I'd be okay with a Pooky flip.

And I'm also currently of the mindset that if there has to be scum in the receiver-sender pairs, I'd probably nuke A50 every time. I'd probably nuke A50 even if we ignored the setup spec.

[Gypyx]

hey still mid-catchup but i'm vt btw

You entered this game as a vt

But you can become the mason

You're capable of great things gx, you have to believe in yourself

You too can be a princess!

i'd rather be a bulletproof multitasking vigilante vigilante vigilante vigilante vigilante vigilante vigilante vigilante but okayy fine

i'll finish reading stuff soon also

[Annie Edison]

theres this kind of paralelism between all the claimed and known prs between all the threads, claimed protective starting in both threads, two roles that need to be stiled, the receiver pairs

im not saying they all have to be town because i don't know that and it'd be weird (plus all the pr claims are scummy) but things really do seem to mirror each other


and the intent with the turnstiles is obviously to create a logjam where not everyone can get to the other thread to do something useful and that weakens the expected effect of any potential power role

and most of the PRs basically outed themselves day 1 asking to be turnstiled, which is bizarre to me but id almost expect some multiplicity by design because of the whole logjam thing. i would think scum would theoretically have roles that only work on the other side too to give them some incentive to cross over but i dont know. it would still seem to be unconventional to me to ask to be turnstiled right away as scum just to block town and get locked into a pr claim but clearly not everyone thinks like me in that regard

but even saying that, if we split the two threads into pairs

two ivestigatives + a protective + two other gated PRs of some stripe

is not really outrageously far out of line with what seems to be standard balance for mini games in 2020? obv that is complicated by there being other roles and it'd be super dumb if scum just werent trying to get turnstiled but i cant stop thinking about how things seem to mirror

Okay, so you missed some of the parrallels but I’d been looking here too.

Both of us receivers started over there, with our senders over here. The people who seem to be able to work on either side seem to have all start forwards.

Both sides STARTED with a protective. There seems to be. Protective/blocker that can swap over to the other side- we have two claims on the table that fit this grouping from inverter.

[superbowl9]

I pretty much lost all solving juice and am going on vacation:

V/LA from the 5th to the 10th

Looking at it fresh today if bell is actually doctor in this thread then skitter must die and vice versa

[superbowl9]

However I like sending skitter to us for a night and taking care of it tomorrow. I would like to kill gypyx as well now

[superbowl9]

Still going to be on annie though because I am a policy follower

[Hench Princesses]

Actually to return to an earlier point

Annie, you at no point knew which thread your tracker was in, right? So when you chose to get turnstiled to this thread *you did not do so knowing that the tracker was in this thread* because you were not informed that the tracker had changed threads until you got their next night action result? In that sense your decision to get turnstiled was in fact NAI and had nothing to do with pro-town mech reasoning?

-E

[superbowl9]

^I dont think that's NAI that would be anti-town

[Annie Edison]

I was informed my tracker started on the opposite side of me and saw something (which bulge actually recently asked me again about but I don’t remember what it was) over here from unwnd that made me think it was him. Dunn’s reaction to the claim from Shelly made me realize it wasn’t him, but then when the night action came in from forwards I knew it wasn’t pisskop or Pooky.

As I said, in day two I thought it was Titus until I talked to Cabd

[Gypyx]

so bowl while you're around, you're saying your annie push was just because of policy?

doesn't feel that way at all tbh

[Annie Edison]

Yeah, I suppose that’s fair about Spiffeh peta.

Assuming we use the one in four logic from our set id assume that set follows a similar rule and I expect there’s a fourth in the either side set as well

[superbowl9]

so bowl while you're around, you're saying your annie push was just because of policy?

doesn't feel that way at all tbh

It's policy but I also think there is a great chance we hit scum - they should be penalized for an anti-town action but I also think it's AI that they chose to do that anti-town action

[Gypyx]

scum are very likely to have gotten a receiver role this game, and separating the strongman from the tracker makes sense; they are leaving the thread where they know there's an investigative, clearing annie on setup spec makes no sense to me.

don't get this sentance at all tbh, could you like reformulate that

[Hench Princesses]

scum are very likely to have gotten a receiver role this game, and separating the strongman from the tracker makes sense; they are leaving the thread where they know there's an investigative, clearing annie on setup spec makes no sense to me.

don't get this sentance at all tbh, could you like reformulate that

well the second sentence made no sense since I misunderstood something, and the first sense is just setup spec since I think this setup is reminding me of Overkill 2 more than anything else so far, where scum had an amnesiac that got results from town PRs

-E

[Gypyx]

so bowl while you're around, you're saying your annie push was just because of policy?

doesn't feel that way at all tbh

It's policy but I also think there is a great chance we hit scum - they should be penalized for an anti-town action but I also think it's AI that they chose to do that anti-town action

okay, that's fair, why are you SR'ing me also? i don't recall you getting over that point in detail