TENET - Game Over

[Brian Skies]

Has HP claimed yet?

[Hench Princesses]

We can do great things together GX

Bell is town, we are the three princesses alive in this thread. Assuming spiffeh did not actually do a big brain turnstile to exit the thread as the last scum, who is the scum here?

I believe in us!

-E

[Gypyx]

scum are very likely to have gotten a receiver role this game, and separating the strongman from the tracker makes sense; they are leaving the thread where they know there's an investigative, clearing annie on setup spec makes no sense to me.

don't get this sentance at all tbh, could you like reformulate that

well the second sentence made no sense since I misunderstood something, and the first sense is just setup spec since I think this setup is reminding me of Overkill 2 more than anything else so far, where scum had an amnesiac that got results from town PRs

-E

what was overkill 2?

and okay for the misundersteanding lol

pedit : well i was getting around to that, but i think that we would have been told that the thread got cleared of scum if spiffeh was indeed last scum?

[Gypyx]

not like it's that likely but y'know

[Hench Princesses]

nope, but my claim won't rock any setup spec arguments so I don't feel super rushed

I'm forwards VT if nothing else, trying to decide if there's any value I can milk out of my inverted role post recombine and whether that would change on a full claim or not

[superbowl9]

POE and you don't seem solvey as usual gyp

I would expect you to be putting out scenarios etc. more, you're more of an in-thread thinker

[Hench Princesses]

what was overkill 2?

and okay for the misundersteanding lol

pedit : well i was getting around to that, but i think that we would have been told that the thread got cleared of scum if spiffeh was indeed last scum?

Over kill 2 was a large theme game with a lots of nightkills and an amnesiac, it's the only game that I've seen amnesiasc which is why it comes to mind.

You can checked the flipped roles here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10556221

and I'm actually not sure when the turnstile resolves, if it resolves at daybreak rather than at night then I'm not sure, it's probably a moot point since there's probably still one scum here at least, I was more saying "who do you think is the scum" in a clever way

-E

[Brian Skies]

Why haven't you tried to invert?

I don't see why you can't just claim now.

[superbowl9]

^^^^

[Brian Skies]

Didn't Annie say if she Turnstiled the Tracker would get the result too or something?

Idk why not knowing which thread their Tracker is in makes their decision to turnstile NAI or anti-town.

[Gypyx]

I think superbowl feels a bit too lost to be scum this game, and I don't think scum are pushing me this game.

See pooky who has ignored me for all game, and then called me "bad" with no further evaluation when I said to elim him

what's the link between pooky and bowl exactly? and idk, i don't feel like you aren't pushable at all

[Annie Edison]

Didn't Annie say if she Turnstiled the Tracker would get the result too or something?

Idk why not knowing which thread their Tracker is in makes their decision to turnstile NAI or anti-town.

If we exist in same timeline we both get results

[Gypyx]

POE and you don't seem solvey as usual gyp

I would expect you to be putting out scenarios etc. more, you're more of an in-thread thinker

as i said at the start i'm trying to kinda change my playstyle around, and not sure i qualify as an in-thread thinker usually but if you say so

[Hench Princesses]

Because it's like, chocolate townie level of power

whatever

I'm "inverted motion detector" -- I figure given the preponderance of much better power in the wrong timeline, I'm definitely the lowest priority turnstile, and maybe even a quasi-miller since dumb people might think motion detector is like a non trash role or something.

I've been debating claiming fruit vendor as like a gambit on a later dayphase but I think my energy level for big brain plays is probably tapped out at this point. I'm pretty sure the only actual use of my my power is to -check rolecop accuracy and -check trackers/watcher accuracy -maybe do a lulzgambit

Spoiler:

(I also actually did not even see the inverted motion detector part until halfway through day 1 and actually thought I was just a VT...)

[Gypyx]

what was overkill 2?

and okay for the misundersteanding lol

pedit : well i was getting around to that, but i think that we would have been told that the thread got cleared of scum if spiffeh was indeed last scum?

Over kill 2 was a large theme game with a lots of nightkills and an amnesiac, it's the only game that I've seen amnesiasc which is why it comes to mind.

You can checked the flipped roles here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10556221

and I'm actually not sure when the turnstile resolves, if it resolves at daybreak rather than at night then I'm not sure, it's probably a moot point since there's probably still one scum here at least, I was more saying "who do you think is the scum" in a clever way

-E

hmmm, idk, would've cakez *really* based his roles off of another 2 years old theme? unless i'm misundersteanding that sounds weird to me

ah okay, well yeah i agree, and rn i'd lean towards getting bowl as even if they must have a buddy in here, it's something we can work around later

pedit : interesting claim, think i like it, you wanna be turndtiled or not even worth it?

[Gypyx]

also we have likd, 4 action investigating roles, i'd get scum has a ninja

hmmmm... JOAT (Strongman ; Ninja : *stuff*)???????

[Gypyx]

really like that idea actually

[Gypyx]

also, could i get purple roomed? like no one really seems to want it and i'm generally more comfortable chatting in PTs

VOTE: purple room Gypyx

[Hench Princesses]

hmmm, idk, would've cakez *really* based his roles off of another 2 years old theme? unless i'm misundersteanding that sounds weird to me

ah okay, well yeah i agree, and rn i'd lean towards getting bowl as even if they must have a buddy in here, it's something we can work around later

pedit : interesting claim, think i like it, you wanna be turndtiled or not even worth it?

Given I don't think he was even in that game, I don't think he's basing anything off it. I more use it as a model for how a setup designer that wants to torture their players might fuck with the players, which is more how I'm seeing the analogy

I think turnstiling today is an extremely risky proposition since scum might be in control of inverted and if we turnstile too early then they can counter-turnstile after we flip, so I think forwards actually is better off holding turnstile until the flip is decided. I also don't particularly wanted to be inverted just qualitatively and mech aside.

-E

[Hench Princesses]

if scum have a ninja then I am literally worse than a miller in terms of power lmao

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Purple Room: Gypyx

[Hench Princesses]

actually I already have shitty negative utility interaction with pisskop's role so motion detector + rolestopper both being in inverted was probably an extra part of cakez wanting to watch town eat itself alive

[Brian Skies]

Also I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup.

[Hench Princesses]

who do you want purple roomed on the other side?

[Gypyx]

hmmm, idk, would've cakez *really* based his roles off of another 2 years old theme? unless i'm misundersteanding that sounds weird to me

ah okay, well yeah i agree, and rn i'd lean towards getting bowl as even if they must have a buddy in here, it's something we can work around later

pedit : interesting claim, think i like it, you wanna be turndtiled or not even worth it?

Given I don't think he was even in that game, I don't think he's basing anything off it. I more use it as a model for how a setup designer that wants to torture their players might fuck with the players, which is more how I'm seeing the analogy

I think turnstiling today is an extremely risky proposition since scum might be in control of inverted and if we turnstile too early then they can counter-turnstile after we flip, so I think forwards actually is better off holding turnstile until the flip is decided. I also don't particularly wanted to be inverted just qualitatively and mech aside.

-E

ah yes, but idk, unless you have a good understeanding of cakez's designing i wouldn't risk that

pedit : well idk, didn't really think 'bout that one maybe petapan?
i *really* should read inverted lol