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[Firebringer]

V/LA till Saturday 1/9

I am busy as fuck with year end. This is not a dodge to secretly post in the scum pt with spiffeh a bunch.

[petapan]

theres this kind of paralelism between all the claimed and known prs between all the threads, claimed protective starting in both threads, two roles that need to be stiled, the receiver pairs

im not saying they all have to be town because i don't know that and it'd be weird (plus all the pr claims are scummy) but things really do seem to mirror each other


and the intent with the turnstiles is obviously to create a logjam where not everyone can get to the other thread to do something useful and that weakens the expected effect of any potential power role

and most of the PRs basically outed themselves day 1 asking to be turnstiled, which is bizarre to me but id almost expect some multiplicity by design because of the whole logjam thing. i would think scum would theoretically have roles that only work on the other side too to give them some incentive to cross over but i dont know. it would still seem to be unconventional to me to ask to be turnstiled right away as scum just to block town and get locked into a pr claim but clearly not everyone thinks like me in that regard

but even saying that, if we split the two threads into pairs

two ivestigatives + a protective + two other gated PRs of some stripe

is not really outrageously far out of line with what seems to be standard balance for mini games in 2020? obv that is complicated by there being other roles and it'd be super dumb if scum just werent trying to get turnstiled but i cant stop thinking about how things seem to mirror

[petapan]

Both sides STARTED with a protective. There seems to be. Protective/blocker that can swap over to the other side- we have two claims on the table that fit this grouping from inverter.

pisskop's flip + whatever spiffeh is started in the forward side and only work in inverted

thats 2 and 2 on both sides. hard for my mind to not see the parallels even though it seems super fucky but 2 PRs per thread that need to be inverted to start seems less weird than just 1? i feel as though that lessens the impact

[petapan]

Yeah, I suppose that’s fair about Spiffeh peta.

Assuming we use the one in four logic from our set id assume that set follows a similar rule and I expect there’s a fourth in the either side set as well

i think the one in four logic is very arbitrary and dont care for it

[petapan]

k phew thankfully thats out the window now

[Deacon Blues]

Bork you're missing like three years of context on that read.

outside of the last point a50 made i don't really think the points made are really specific to you being you and they're more to me about how you've acted in this game in a bubble

like come on how is shit like 27 and 82 even remotely AI? you could easily be legitimately confused about multivoting (as many were) as town or scum, or faking it as scum (for towncred i guess?). I don't know where a50 gets any semblance of townread on you for weaksauce tells like that

111 is like him lauding you for having no real opinion about something (and is kinda confusing to boot but I am interpreting it as:

"if you were scum you would be 100% not ok with professing even the slightest endorsement of a [try to evict all the scum from a thread] plan...because there is some small chance it would work and that would be bad for scum" which i think is silly on multiple levels in that 1) that clearly wouldn't be guaranteed to work and 2) you could just be, you know, trying to look town, lol?

I'm just really underwhelmed by that as an argument for you town in any kind of way, both as proposed by him and at you (and now spiffeh i guess?) for being ok with it

-b

[midwaybear]

ok midwaybear is lockscum

Why aren't you voting me then...

[Deacon Blues]

last point a50 made

"I've never seen you get wagoned as scum D1 therefore you're town" is also not a good argument either, as it is

-b

[skitter30]

Not having a great day, i'll be around later or tomorrow or something

[Dandelion Wine]

I had a busy day at work setting up a new office, but I'm here now. I spent the entire commute home talking about my feelings on everyone here into the neighborhood via voice to text. You're welcome for sparing your eyes.

[Spiffeh]

Can you do that into the thread now?

[Dandelion Wine]

Apparently I am not allowed to copy paste, so you all get PARAPHRASE of the text to speech walls.

Hang on, cakez hates us all.

[Deacon Blues]

Petapan
Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)
midwaybear
Firebringer
Lady Lambdadelta
skitter30
superbowl9
Annie Edison

order the names

forgot about this;

i don't quite hold the same opinion now as i did then but i kinda expected some followup from this regardless of what my answer ended up being

-b

[petapan]

Petapan
Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)
midwaybear
Firebringer
Lady Lambdadelta
skitter30
superbowl9
Annie Edison

order the names

forgot about this;

i don't quite hold the same opinion now as i did then but i kinda expected some followup from this regardless of what my answer ended up being

-b

fom me?

[Deacon Blues]

yeah - were you comparing reads? any in particular you didn't like?
just wondering why you wanted a readlist from us right then and there

-b

[Dandelion Wine]

Spoiler: Neighborhood Exercise

So first, I went over a bunch of data on how I read

LLD

, both in a specific game and at large, and how I look for the intent behind the emotions. My primary takeaways were that the first two "events" she kicked off were fairly town with good reasons behind them, but that the third one felt kind of like it was too "been there done that" to work, and that

Pooky

could easily guess at the answer key. I came out of it with a "tier two town" read of her, where before my read was kind of in flux, so if nothing else talking it over out loud on the drive home was worth it. I really hope to get some real time interaction with her, especially to probe her read of

Peta

. (I am not seeing what she is seeing)

I also noted that IIRC gamma was townreading LLD the most out of the "pool of three" we requested and she's pretty good money for where the NK was aimed yesterday, as LLD-town comes online late but when she does it's very scary to be facing her down.

I noted that my

Midway

read is in stale bread status, and that I should stop just taking Bork/Peta word for it and evaluate myself. I noted that if there's one player I think has the growth trajectory to tryhard evolve his scumgame in this timeline, it's him.

I told

ffery

I'd frame my townread of her on gold foil paper and let her hang it in her study if it's her.

I snarked a metric fuckton about

skitter

; and how she seems obligated by law to make a post I hate for every post I like. And that she sits on a seesaw with Bell.... One, but not both.

Firebringer

, I don't know. Ceph has him as very town, but if I were a solo player I'd have him null at best. This game kind of needs try-harding and Fire seems content to keep joking around and such. I made comparisons to 420 in illicit (Who was town, a hectic alt) but unlike there, fire never really dropped the mask for a long period of time?

A50

read is reserved until bork and skitter are done with their line of questioning.

I invited ffery to a meta dance date about

spiffeh

using the new data we have on hand.

[Deacon Blues]

I told ffery I'd frame my townread of her on gold foil paper and let her hang it in her study if it's her.

on some level it'd be cool if like even the people i know really well would acknowledge i'm in the game sometime lol

-b

[Dandelion Wine]

I love you too, grumpy butt. Even if you explicitly said you wouldn't be in the hood for a bit so I addressed it to her.

[petapan]

yeah - were you comparing reads? any in particular you didn't like?
just wondering why you wanted a readlist from us right then and there

-b

i didn't really want to compare, just know where you were at because i didn't have a good sense on who people thought was the original timeline scum as compared to the other thread


i have only vague feelings toward a majority of people on the list and probably couldn't assemble one myself but i felt like asking

i guess i didn't really have any ideas to further discuss anything and most of my energy went to aimlessly lashing out

[petapan]

i'm probably gonna throw in the towel and kill pooky though because if hes scum great and if hes town we'll lose soon and the game will be over anyway

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, I don't know. Ceph has him as very town, but if I were a solo player I'd have him null at best. This game kind of needs try-harding and Fire seems content to keep joking around and such. I made comparisons to 420 in illicit (Who was town, a hectic alt) but unlike there, fire never really dropped the mask for a long period of time?

my jokes have degraded very largely since day 1. Now i am just a grumpy sad clown.

[Firebringer]

also i think u guys are scum now cabd.

[Firebringer]

@peta no i am just a vt

[petapan]

Firebringer, I don't know. Ceph has him as very town, but if I were a solo player I'd have him null at best. This game kind of needs try-harding and Fire seems content to keep joking around and such. I made comparisons to 420 in illicit (Who was town, a hectic alt) but unlike there, fire never really dropped the mask for a long period of time?

my jokes have degraded very largely since day 1. Now i am just a grumpy sad clown.

how can you be a clown if you're not making me cry

[petapan]

also i think u guys are scum now cabd.

do you think they're trying to townblock scum

@peta no i am just a vt

k lol