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[NorwegianboyEE]

If we can’t trust a miller claim then what is there left for us to believe.

[Mizzytastic]

vote (n.)

mid-15c., "formal expression of one's wish or choice with regard to a proposal, candidate, etc.," from Latin

votum

"a vow, wish, promise to a god, solemn pledge, dedication," noun use of neuter of

votus

, past participle of

vovere

"to promise, dedicate" (see

vow

(n.)). Meaning "totality of voters of a certain class or type" is from 1888.

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Binatog13 (2): MiniMegabyte, Vaxkiller

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DrippingGoofball (1): Hayker
MiniMegabyte (1): Binatog13
Rannygazoo (1): DrippingGoofball
Norfolk Boy1 (1): Titus
Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb
samantha97 (1): BBMolla
Andresvmb (1): NoPowerOverMe

Not Voting (11): Nero Cain, Momrangal, PrimeFighter, Rannygazoo, Luca Blight, Norfolk Boy1, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip, samantha97, PlusJOYED

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

I'm heading to bed soon. I've asked

the worst

to check the thread and post vote counts if necessary when I'm away because I know large games can go very quickly if there are a few people active at the same time.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: andresvmb

Because he can't be town all the time.

This shows a basic lack of understanding of how probabilities work. But that’s alright.

[Andresvmb]

If we can’t trust a miller claim then what is there left for us to believe.

Agreed. That’s the towniest Miller claim I have ever seen.

[NoPowerOverMe]

are you saying that if you flipped a coin 10 times in a row heads that you wouldn't be more inclined to bet on it being tails next time even if that's not necessarily mathematically the case?

[NorwegianboyEE]

A coin flip is 50% scum/town probability

If we assume this game has like 4 scum or 5 then it’s closer to 25% likely any slot would be mafia.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm not referring to this game I'm referring to that Andres has played a lot of town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well he’s still right it’s faulty thinking.

If i roll town 10 times in a row that doesn’t make it somehow more likely that i roll scum if the chance of being mafia is always lower than the chance of being town.
It’s like assuming that because i didn’t get a rare drop from Gacha in the first 50 pulls then i’ll get it nect time, even if the chance to get a rare drop is perhaps as low as 0.06%

[Gamma Emerald]

am bab

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm aware of the fallacy but from an emotional standpoint there's still some validity there I think. I'm not saying hes scum butonestly I will look for any excuse to bypass Rvs.

[Hayker]

If we can’t trust a miller claim then what is there left for us to believe.

Agreed. That’s the towniest Miller claim I have ever seen.

I doubt you are sincere, but if you are, could you please explain what makes that miller claim townie?

[Hayker]

Have you ever fake claimed Miller before

yeah as scum

Could you please provide the game for reference.

[Gamma Emerald]

Andres and NPOM reactions to the Miller claim are interesting.

[Andresvmb]

I'm aware of the fallacy but from an emotional standpoint there's still some validity there I think. I'm not saying hes scum butonestly I will look for any excuse to bypass Rvs.

Don’t worry I had a feeling that you were really just trying to push me in some sort of way to get a reaction and see if you can figure out my alignment from that. Unfortunately it just won’t be that easy. I’ll try and make it obvious to you this is still my Town self though.

[Andresvmb]

If we can’t trust a miller claim then what is there left for us to believe.

Agreed. That’s the towniest Miller claim I have ever seen.

I doubt you are sincere, but if you are, could you please explain what makes that miller claim townie?

Yeah I was definitely being a bit over the top about it.

I’m not sure what the site meta is here regarding Millers, but if they are claimed by Town more often than not, then I would judge the slot based on the merits and not so much the claim.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If he has claimed Miller has scum before that would be part of the merits I would think.

[Binatog13]

This is my first normal large game. I might encounter new roles here. If I have questions about a particular role, can you answer it? Thanks! There is no role setup unlike in my Newbie game, so idk on how many town and mafia are in here.

Can I ask what a Miller is?

[Andresvmb]

And in case it wasn’t clear, that’s what I intend to do. I won’t be overly focused on the Claim, though from my experience it comes from Town more often than not.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Miller gets a guily result from cops even though they are town.

[Momrangal]

Ego

VOTE: DBG

NEVER AGAIN

[NoPowerOverMe]

Just for your information there is a Wikipedia entry for every role.

[Vaxkiller]

Hes not a miller, but hes town!

[Binatog13]

Miller gets a guily result from cops even though they are town.

Kinda bad I guess. It only helps the scum.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh wait I was confusing miller with mason.

[BBmolla]

Have you ever fake claimed Miller before

yeah as scum

Could you please provide the game for reference.

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